by America-1960s » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:12 pm
by Sanghyeok » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:16 pm
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister
by Langenia » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:17 pm
LANGENIA
Fatherland, Unity, and Valor
Overview|Armed Forces|LangenArPort| Incumbent President: Nicolas Furia
by Kowani » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:18 pm
by Ethel mermania » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:18 pm
by America-1960s » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:20 pm
Ethel mermania wrote:No.
Wilson should have listened to Ho in Paris in 1919.
And as an FYI, American ground forces involvement started long before Tonkin gulf
by Cordel One » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:21 pm
by Geneviev » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:23 pm
by Tsaivao » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:25 pm
America-1960s wrote:So, the Vietnam War, it's obviously a controversial topic in my country, many sides believe different things about the war, and there's also a lot of misinformation thrown around about the war too, I'm not going to name a few for the sake of trying to prevent a flame war, but I'm sure y'all know what I'm talking about. Anyways, it's often the source of debate among Americans like me on whether or not we should have intervened in the conflict on behalf of South Vietnam (the democratic side, obviously), some say that we were wasting our time and lives trying to keep Vietnam free of communism, others say that it was noble to fight for people in another country. If you want my opinion, I honestly believe we were justified in fighting that war, not only did we have a reason to fight in it because of the Gulf of Tonkin incident, but we were in a Cold War with members of the communist Warsaw Pact and other communist nations in at the time, I will agree that we shouldn't have enacted the draft in that war, but that's more of a debate on our military strategy than the question at hand. Now that I've given my opinion, what do y'all think? I'm open to your thoughts and I promise not to belittle you if you share a different opinion than mine so long as you do the same for me.
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by Page » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:26 pm
by Nekostan-e Gharbi » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:27 pm
by Anatoliyanskiy » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:27 pm
by Cordel One » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:27 pm
Adamede wrote:No not really. Communists aren’t the good guys but we had no good reason to get involved, let alone send tens of thousands of conscripts to their deaths.
by Senkaku » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:27 pm
America-1960s wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:No.
Wilson should have listened to Ho in Paris in 1919.
And as an FYI, American ground forces involvement started long before Tonkin gulf
You're right, we were involved before the incident, but we were more or less there as "advisors" than anything, it wasn't like the major combat operations you would see later in the war.
by Monsone » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:27 pm
by Nekostan-e Gharbi » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:29 pm
Cordel One wrote:Adamede wrote:No not really. Communists aren’t the good guys but we had no good reason to get involved, let alone send tens of thousands of conscripts to their deaths.
The conscripts are your primary concern? How about the Vietnamese people who had their country ravaged by the United States and continue to develop birth defects to this day?
by Ethel mermania » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:30 pm
America-1960s wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:No.
Wilson should have listened to Ho in Paris in 1919.
And as an FYI, American ground forces involvement started long before Tonkin gulf
You're right, we were involved before the incident, but we were more or less there as "advisors" than anything, it wasn't like the major combat operations you would see later in the war.
by Cordel One » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:30 pm
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:Cordel One wrote:The conscripts are your primary concern? How about the Vietnamese people who had their country ravaged by the United States and continue to develop birth defects to this day?
What about the Vietnamese people who hurried to flee from communism in 1975? The only moral action would have been a lot more involvement.
by Tsaivao » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:30 pm
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:Cordel One wrote:The conscripts are your primary concern? How about the Vietnamese people who had their country ravaged by the United States and continue to develop birth defects to this day?
What about the Vietnamese people who hurried to flee from communism in 1975? The only moral action would have been a lot more involvement.
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by Super Cool Florida » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:31 pm
NEWS; There’s no news today. A kitten was born though.
by Insaanistan » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:31 pm
by Nekostan-e Gharbi » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:32 pm
Tsaivao wrote:Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
What about the Vietnamese people who hurried to flee from communism in 1975? The only moral action would have been a lot more involvement.
Many South Vietnamese also fled to the north as well.
This was less an ideological conflict and more an anti-colonial one. South Vietnam was going to lose whether or not we intervened on their behalf.
by Page » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:32 pm
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:Cordel One wrote:The conscripts are your primary concern? How about the Vietnamese people who had their country ravaged by the United States and continue to develop birth defects to this day?
What about the Vietnamese people who hurried to flee from communism in 1975? The only moral action would have been a lot more involvement. The war should have been much shorter and much more decisive to minimize human cost.
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