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Ailurocracy Thread I: Shall some national leaders be feline?

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Do you support non-human political leadership?

Yes
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No
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:09 am

There are lots of problems in the world that happen because of dictators. To make sure that dictatorship can never rise I propose that certain leaders of nations be exclusively feline or otherwise non-human. For example the head of state should always be feline to reduce possibility of cult of personality. Similarly Minister of the Interior shouldn’t really be human either to reduce corruption and possibility of a coup happening. Chairpersons of political parties need to be feline again to prevent the party from revolving around a person.

Fellow NSGers, do you guys think this is a good idea? Let’s discuss.

P.S. The essence of ailurocracy is of course not about cats. Instead it is about a stronger form of abolition of certain offices by nominally keeping them but preventing them from functioning. Hence for example a permanent non-human head of state is equivalent to the abolition of the office of head of state.

P.S.S. I’m inspired by the Taiwanese Cat Party: https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3667329
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Postby Celritannia » Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:15 am

What...what am I reading?
Who actually thinks this is a good idea?
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:17 am

Celritannia wrote:What...what am I reading?
Who actually thinks this is a good idea?


I do.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:17 am

Ummm...... no? :blink:
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Postby Celritannia » Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:18 am

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Celritannia wrote:What...what am I reading?
Who actually thinks this is a good idea?


I do.


. . .
Animals cannot make decisions on policy issues.
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:21 am

Celritannia wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
I do.


. . .
Animals cannot make decisions on policy issues.

That’s precisely the point. When we put a cat in any office we have abolished it.
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I'm already a cat's bitch. Make one President for all I care, my life will be no different. "Hey, I licked up all the jelly from the food you put out 5 minutes ago, I need new food now!" "Yes, Mr. President." "If I don't get belly rubs I am going to nuke a random country, might be Iran, might be Norway, do you want to roll those dice?"
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Postby Celritannia » Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:24 am

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
. . .
Animals cannot make decisions on policy issues.

That’s precisely the point.


Then you would collapse a country because no decisions can be made.
Furthermore, having an animal as the head of state will lead to the handler becoming the power-behind-the-throne dictator.

Also, the Cat Party is a joke party.

Another point, this does not work for Parliamentary democracies.
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Postby Resilient Acceleration » Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:35 am

This is but another case of a domestic feline supremacist worldview. Many felines lived their warm, privileged life off the industrial output of human capitalism, which has disproportionately affected–even destroyed–the livelihood of other mammal families such as wolves or red pandas.

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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:43 am

Page wrote:I'm already a cat's bitch. Make one President for all I care, my life will be no different. "Hey, I licked up all the jelly from the food you put out 5 minutes ago, I need new food now!" "Yes, Mr. President." "If I don't get belly rubs I am going to nuke a random country, might be Iran, might be Norway, do you want to roll those dice?"


If a cat is the president then the presidency has to be purely ceremonial.
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:45 am

Celritannia wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:That’s precisely the point.


Then you would collapse a country because no decisions can be made.
Furthermore, having an animal as the head of state will lead to the handler becoming the power-behind-the-throne dictator.

Also, the Cat Party is a joke party.

Another point, this does not work for Parliamentary democracies.


The point is precisely ensuring that the head of state is purely ceremonial, that is, we want Parliamentary democracy. I would even argue that the state becomes constitutional feline monarchy with cat pictures replacing human ones on currencies and other places where leader faces show up to permanently destroy cults of personality.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:46 am

No, cats should not be heads of states.
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:46 am

Resilient Acceleration wrote:This is but another case of a domestic feline supremacist worldview. Many felines lived their warm, privileged life off the industrial output of human capitalism, which has disproportionately affected–even destroyed–the livelihood of other mammal families such as wolves or red pandas.


Cats rule over humans who rule over other animals. Hence it is natural for symbolic leadership of a country to be given to a member of the feline species.
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:47 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:No, cats should not be heads of states.


Why?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:48 am

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:No, cats should not be heads of states.


Why?

Because they are cats. Heads of State should be Human.
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This is just anarchism with extra pawses.
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:50 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Why?

Because they are cats. Heads of State should be Human.


I disagree. My point is precisely making heads of state purely ceremonial and look better.
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:51 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:This is just anarchism with extra pawses.


Ancatistan? Hmm.
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Postby Celritannia » Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:04 am

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
Then you would collapse a country because no decisions can be made.
Furthermore, having an animal as the head of state will lead to the handler becoming the power-behind-the-throne dictator.

Also, the Cat Party is a joke party.

Another point, this does not work for Parliamentary democracies.


The point is precisely ensuring that the head of state is purely ceremonial, that is, we want Parliamentary democracy. I would even argue that the state becomes constitutional feline monarchy with cat pictures replacing human ones on currencies and other places where leader faces show up to permanently destroy cults of personality.


Then just have a Parliamentary democracy with a Ceremonial President, like every other Parliamentary Republic.
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:06 am

Celritannia wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
The point is precisely ensuring that the head of state is purely ceremonial, that is, we want Parliamentary democracy. I would even argue that the state becomes constitutional feline monarchy with cat pictures replacing human ones on currencies and other places where leader faces show up to permanently destroy cults of personality.


Then just have a Parliamentary democracy with a Ceremonial President, like every other Parliamentary Republic.


Yup and the president needs to be feline and occupy more space on news than the human PM.
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Postby Celritannia » Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:07 am

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
Then just have a Parliamentary democracy with a Ceremonial President, like every other Parliamentary Republic.


Yup and the president needs to be feline and occupy more space on news than the human PM.


Please tell me you are not serious about this.

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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:09 am

Celritannia wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Yup and the president needs to be feline and occupy more space on news than the human PM.


Please tell me you are not serious about this.


I’m serious. Political news should be mostly about feline leaders putting their paws on documents and visiting places.
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Current Prime Minister: Dr. Elisheva Cohen (she is fine with Elizabeth for non-Hebrew speakers) from Likud
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