by Bormiar » Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:29 pm
by Comfed » Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:01 pm
by Bormiar » Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:15 pm
Comfed wrote:I don't see why we should be isolating a part of the game from receiving C/Cs for work there.
by Pallaith » Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:36 am
by Noahs Second Country » Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:49 am
Comfed wrote:I don't see why we should be isolating a part of the game from receiving C/Cs for work there. However I do think we are seeing a dangerous trend where people are essentially getting C/Ced for deck value - you should have a lot of contributions to the cards community beyond "I farmed a lot" to your record to get C/Ced, for anything on NS. Also for the interest of full disclosure I am a member of The North Pacific Cards Guild.
EDIT: But yes, you are correct in saying that most people C/Ced for cards don't feel like they deserve it. The exceptions to this I would say are Koem Kab because ha practically invented card farming and does it best, and Praetor, but he's done so much more than just cards, and developed the first real cards program. Those are good cards C/Cs.
by Bormiar » Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:17 am
Pallaith wrote:P.S. I thought you were supposed to be more relaxed or something after coming back. They're just imaginary pieces of (I assume) cardboard. What did they ever do to you?
by Wallenburg » Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:03 pm
by Fauxia » Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:16 pm
Wallenburg wrote:No, running scripts someone else wrote is totally commend-worthy.
by Bormiar » Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:27 pm
Fauxia wrote:he has bent the rules to his will.
by Wallenburg » Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:37 pm
by Fauxia » Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:36 pm
Bormiar wrote:Fauxia wrote:he has bent the rules to his will.
Personally, I think that that was reckless and greedy, closer to a character issue than something to be rewarded. Lending that Pergamon for that pull event was probably the worst thing I ever did for cards. NSC getting rich off that was like Farrakhan getting rich boosting his own card.
Edit: looks like he got rich boosting his card too.
by Wallenburg » Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:43 pm
by Fauxia » Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:46 pm
by Bormiar » Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:56 pm
Fauxia wrote:Bormiar wrote:Personally, I think that that was reckless and greedy, closer to a character issue than something to be rewarded. Lending that Pergamon for that pull event was probably the worst thing I ever did for cards. NSC getting rich off that was like Farrakhan getting rich boosting his own card.
Edit: looks like he got rich boosting his card too.
Next time you’re going to tell me that people who play in N-Day possess a bloodthirsty and ruinous disposition.
Greedy? The fuck? The whole point of the card game is to accumulate value in cards! It revolves around “bank”. Yeah, I think people are going to be greedy. Amazingly, when a game has rules, people use the rules to their advantage. That is only a problem when it ruins the game for people, and considering how cards are very popular, this doesn’t work.
Anyway, you’re a skilled SC author, so if you really think that about NSC, be my guest and go write a repeal. Otherwise, there’s really no need for assaults on people’s character.
by Noahs Second Country » Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:05 pm
Bormiar wrote:What Noah did — screwed around with the fundamental nature of the cards game in a way that predictably damaged hard-working collectors — only made cards more of a zero-sum game.
by Praeceps » Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:27 pm
Fauxia wrote:So since you opened the floodgates 15 months ago, there have been all of five resolutions primarily about cards.
Condemn Koem Kab, Commend DGES, Commend 9003, Condemn NSC, Commend Praetor
Praetor was commended not for simply accumulating bank, but for being what seems to be the primary architect of TNP's card guild, which serves as inspiration for other card guilds in addition to being quite successful on its own. NSC's contributions other than card collecting are not enough to be commendable (otherwise someone would be writing a commendation for me by now!) but the card collecting pushes it over the top. NSC is not Koem Kab, but his collection (two of the top ten collections, actually) is extremely impressive, and he has bent the rules to his will. 9003, in addition to card activity, has what seems to be an impressive record military-wise. Koem Kab, of course, is the unquestioned master of cards, and just like Kindjal, you support it yourself, unless you want to repeal your own resolution now. DGES is the only one I think that really is quite close, but there is more than just normal collection involved in that. All the ex-nation cards are very impressive.
The idea that people are being commended or condemned simply for accumulating cards is absurd. The people who have gotten badges off of it are extremely influential in that sphere. And unlike issues, cards is an interactive game with effects on more than just your nation (at least for big farmers).
tl;dr Yes, we shouldn't give out badges simply for being good at cards, but that's not what's gone on in these resolutions.
by Honeydewistania » Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:37 pm
Alger wrote:if you have egoquotes in your signature, touch grass
by Unibot III » Fri Dec 18, 2020 7:29 pm
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
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