Indiana AG: LGBT Parents should be stripped of Rights

[Necroghastia]

And what makes that choice any more reasonable than a two women marrying? Two men? And that's without getting into NB people, as well...

Easy and not so easy. Natural law in accordance with divine law and will.

What is natural law? What is divine law? How do you know divine will?

[Kannap]

And what makes that choice any more reasonable than a two women marrying? Two men? And that's without getting into NB people, as well...

Easy and not so easy. Natural law in accordance with divine law and will.

I'm going to appeal to the Divine Supreme Court.

[Necroghastia]

im going to have to stop you there.

what if the two men are married in accordance with civil law?

Then the marriage is legally valid. Not divinely. I want marriages to be both divinely and legally valid.

sounds like the divine's problem honestly

[Loben III]

im going to have to stop you there.

what if the two men are married in accordance with civil law?

Then the marriage is legally valid. Not divinely. I want marriages to be both divinely and legally valid.

legally valid from their standpoint is all that matters.

[Celritannia]

And what makes that choice any more reasonable than a two women marrying? Two men? And that's without getting into NB people, as well...

Easy and not so easy. Natural law in accordance with divine law and will.

And what is natural law? Because, in the actual wild, in nature, homosexual behaviour happens.

[Loben III]

im going to have to stop you there.

what if the two men are married in accordance with civil law?

That civil law is obviously incompatible and illegitimate in Sundiata's global Catholic theocracy.

i wouldnt worry about him, hes a minority in that Papal camp.

[Kannap]

Then the marriage is legally valid. Not divinely. I want marriages to be both divinely and legally valid.

legally valid from their standpoint is all that matters.

My church also gives me the green light, which also matters to me and probably also the majority of LGBT people who are religious.

[Kannap]

That civil law is obviously incompatible and illegitimate in Sundiata's global Catholic theocracy.

i wouldnt worry about him, hes a minority in that Papal camp.

Fortunately.

[Celritannia]

im going to have to stop you there.

what if the two men are married in accordance with civil law?

Then the marriage is legally valid. Not divinely. I want marriages to be both divinely and legally valid.

Really, that's not up to you to decide.

[Sundiata]

Easy and not so easy. Natural law in accordance with divine law and will.

I'm going to appeal to the Divine Supreme Court.

The closest thing I can think of is the magesterium of the church. You're free to make your case to a bishop to ensure that your concern is likely to be raised before the Pope and the next ecumenical council of the church.

[Sundiata]

Then the marriage is legally valid. Not divinely. I want marriages to be both divinely and legally valid.

Really, that's not up to you to decide.

I know, I don't decide.

[Kannap]

I'm going to appeal to the Divine Supreme Court.

The closest thing I can think of is the magesterium of the church. You're free to make your case to a bishop to ensure that your concern is likely to be raised before the Pope and the next ecumenical council of the church.

I said the Divine Supreme Court, not your silly mortal leadership. You guys can pretend to play God all you want, but I don't worship you or your Bishops or your silly hat wearing Pope.

[Neutraligon]

Really, that's not up to you to decide.

I know, I don't decide.

You do decide if you want to implement it legally, despite the harm it does. You still have not acknowledged the harm your support for this AG would do to children.

[Celritannia]

Really, that's not up to you to decide.

I know, I don't decide.

Then stop wanting to do it, stop saying you want to do it.
Let people live their lives and be happy, instead of trying to establish this hypothetical Authoritarian Catholic Theocracy/Fascist state.

You say you don't want to hurt people, but then you mention how you will hurt people. It's a double standard, an oxymoron, and hypocritical of you to even say.

[Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire]

I know, I don't decide.

Then stop wanting to do it, stop saying you want to do it.
Let people live their lives and be happy, instead of trying to establish this hypothetical Authoritarian Catholic Theocracy/Fascist state.

You say you don't want to hurt people, but then you mention how you will hurt people. It's a double standard.

Bingo. We have a winner.

[The Imarian Monarchy]

I know, I don't decide.

Then stop wanting to do it, stop saying you want to do it.
Let people live their lives and be happy, instead of trying to establish this hypothetical Authoritarian Catholic Theocracy/Fascist state.

You say you don't want to hurt people, but then you mention how you will hurt people. It's a double standard.

Celrit, I think you meant hypocrisy there, not a double standard

[Sundiata]

Easy and not so easy. Natural law in accordance with divine law and will.

And what is natural law? Because, in the actual wild, in nature, homosexual behaviour happens.

The moral and ethical imperative that humans have in nature that comes from God. The best definition of this, in my opinion, comes from Aquinas' Summa Theologae.

[Celritannia]

And what is natural law? Because, in the actual wild, in nature, homosexual behaviour happens.

The moral and ethical imperative that humans have in nature that comes from God. The best definition of this, in my opinion, comes from Aquinas' Summa Theologae.

Your morals are not the only morals that exist. Confucianism is older than yours.

[Neutraligon]

And what is natural law? Because, in the actual wild, in nature, homosexual behaviour happens.

The moral and ethical imperative that humans have in nature that comes from God. The best definition of this, in my opinion, comes from Aquinas' Summa Theologae.

Like not harming children by forcing them to be parented by a broken marriage you forced on them since their only alternative was celibacy? How about the moral imperative not to harm children by taking away their loving parents as described by the AG. How about the moral imperative that doesn't harm a loving couple who is unable to conceive, since lack of children is something that can easily break apart a couple. It truly is astonishing how much harm your morals would perpetuate.

[Sundiata]

The moral and ethical imperative that humans have in nature that comes from God. The best definition of this, in my opinion, comes from Aquinas' Summa Theologae.

Your morals are not the only morals that exist. Confucianism is older than yours.

No. Confucianism is dharmic in origin, like Hinduism, like Buddhism. It doesn't make logical sense for God to operate in the manner described by dharmic religions and teachings for a variety of reasons. These reasons are outlined by Aquinas as he describes the qualities necessary to being and goodness.

[Necroghastia]

Your morals are not the only morals that exist. Confucianism is older than yours.

No. Confucianism is dharmic in origin, like Hinduism, like Buddhism. It doesn't make logical sense for God to operate in the manner described by dharmic religions and teachings for a variety of reasons. These reasons are outlined by Aquinas as he describes the qualities necessary to being and goodness.

You wanna talk what doesn't make sense for a creator that is supposed to be omnibenevolent? Thinking cishet marriages are the only valid ones.

[Loben III]

And what is natural law? Because, in the actual wild, in nature, homosexual behaviour happens.

The moral and ethical imperative that humans have in nature that comes from God. The best definition of this, in my opinion, comes from Aquinas' Summa Theologae.

Is it considered gospel?

[Sundiata]

The moral and ethical imperative that humans have in nature that comes from God. The best definition of this, in my opinion, comes from Aquinas' Summa Theologae.

Is it considered gospel?

No, it's considered tradition. Gospel would be scripture.

[Loben III]

Is it considered gospel?

No, it's considered tradition. Gospel would be scripture.

So why are you bent on forcing non Catholics to adhere to tradition.

[Celritannia]

Your morals are not the only morals that exist. Confucianism is older than yours.

No. Confucianism is dharmic in origin, like Hinduism, like Buddhism. It doesn't make logical sense for God to operate in the manner described by dharmic religions and teachings for a variety of reasons. These reasons are outlined by Aquinas as he describes the qualities necessary to being and goodness.

That's just your opinion.
People can hold a different belief and still think their religion or belief is more important than yours.
But because you want to make certain people unhappy, it can be discredited in creating goodness.