I tried really hard to write the above paragraph with as little of my anti-military bias leaking through. Click below to see how I really feel.
by Cordel One » Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:46 pm
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by Sanghyeok » Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:51 pm
Cordel One wrote:Devotion to the United States military is perhaps one of the main characteristics of American nationalism. Many things have contributed to this support have contributed to this, such as the civil war, the Monroe Doctrine, World War 2, and the Cold War.
Cordel One wrote: At the same time, the involvement of the United States in many unpopular wars (Vietnam) and human rights abuses (Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo Bay) has led many to view this institution in a negative light.
Cordel One wrote: This brings me to the subject of this thread: the modern United States military. Beyond the question in the title, is American interventionism in the Middle East justified?
Cordel One wrote: Should we continue on this path?
Cordel One wrote: Remember, this is a touchy subject so please do your best to remain civil.
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by Stellar Colonies » Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:51 pm
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I try to be objective, but I do have some biases.
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by Cordel One » Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:52 pm
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by Cordel One » Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:59 pm
Cirrus Azale wrote:I mostly support what the US decides to do with its military, but I do not support ideology wars and intervention in the Middle East. Diplomatic solutions could have easily given companies access to Middle Eastern oil.
by -Ra- » Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:59 pm
Picairn wrote:Depends on what war you ask. Stopping genocide in the 1995 Bosnian war is a good thing imo. Sad that the US didn't do anything in the Rwandan genocide.
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by Cannot think of a name » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:00 pm
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by Nea Chora » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:03 pm
-Ra- wrote:Picairn wrote:Depends on what war you ask. Stopping genocide in the 1995 Bosnian war is a good thing imo. Sad that the US didn't do anything in the Rwandan genocide.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operati ... rate_Force
NATO intervention in Bosnia is a textbook example of how the US Military can be put to good use. The only people who would oppose it are people who condone genocide and communists, and the Venn diagram of these individuals is literally a circle.
by -Insaanistan- » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:03 pm
by Nazeroth » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:05 pm
South Acren wrote:Gotta say, as much as I disagree with the idea that Vietnam or Afghanistan were good ideas, i feel like others, like the Gulf War and Korea were justified. Can't forget that it wasn't just solely a US thing either.
by Picairn » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:07 pm
South Acren wrote:Gotta say, as much as I disagree with the idea that Vietnam or Afghanistan were good ideas, i feel like others, like the Gulf War and Korea were justified. Can't forget that it wasn't just solely a US thing either.
by Borderlands of Rojava » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:08 pm
by Major-Tom » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:09 pm
by Nazeroth » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:09 pm
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Imo no. The US military is a foreign occupation force in many parts of the world and has been an uninvited one time and again. And when asked to leave it's like that houseguest that won't go away. Never forget the unprovoked act of aggression the war in Iraq was, because literally nobody but nobody in Iraq asked for us to invade and occupy their country, killing thousands of their people.
Our military has many people with good intentions in their heart. It's unfortunate they don't realize until it's too late that they are just a tool to the elite that will be forgotten once they are needed no longer (look at all the homeless vets on skid row).
by The Python » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:11 pm
Cordel One wrote:If you've been on this forum for the past few months you probably know where I stand on this issue. I dislike almost every action the military has made as an institution after the end of the second World War. It is neo-imperialism in my eyes, an endless series of wars selfishly started to further the interests of the nation's corporations and weapons manufacturers, causing pain, suffering, and destabilization around the globe. The military itself is deceptive and manipulative in terms of recruitment as well, enticing people into doing its bidding with propaganda and college admission.
by Willtime » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:17 pm
by Nazeroth » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:18 pm
Willtime wrote:the U.S. military means military of the U.S.
So it is designed to benefit the US,right?
Every country which has such great military power,will do the same things.
If you believe the US(or other country,such as China)will protect your benefits as they protect themselves,you are fooled.
Is it justified?
It is justified for the US.
But if your country is not the US…………
by Sanghyeok » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:19 pm
Nazeroth wrote:Willtime wrote:the U.S. military means military of the U.S.
So it is designed to benefit the US,right?
Every country which has such great military power,will do the same things.
If you believe the US(or other country,such as China)will protect your benefits as they protect themselves,you are fooled.
Is it justified?
It is justified for the US.
But if your country is not the US…………
Indeed
If its not the US its China and if its not China is somebody else
Their is literally no getting around that.
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