by Nationalist Northumbria » Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:53 am
by Nationalist Northumbria » Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:56 am
Heloin wrote:4th times a charm.
by The Huskar Social Union » Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:58 am
by Nationalist Northumbria » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:00 pm
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Doubt it will get many votes and FPTP guarantees they will make no progress what so ever. Also lol at the idea Northumbria will just take parts of Scotland including its capital, not a chance.
by Heloin » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:02 pm
Nationalist Northumbria wrote:The Huskar Social Union wrote:Doubt it will get many votes and FPTP guarantees they will make no progress what so ever. Also lol at the idea Northumbria will just take parts of Scotland including its capital, not a chance.
Nobody's advocating for that right now. We're focused on the independence of the parts currently in England.
by Celritannia » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:02 pm
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by Punished UMN » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:02 pm
by Celritannia » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:03 pm
Nationalist Northumbria wrote:The Huskar Social Union wrote:Doubt it will get many votes and FPTP guarantees they will make no progress what so ever. Also lol at the idea Northumbria will just take parts of Scotland including its capital, not a chance.
See UKIP and the EU referendum.
Nobody's advocating for that right now. We're focused on the independence of the parts currently in England.
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by Nationalist Northumbria » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:05 pm
Celritannia wrote:Didn't the Mods ban you from ever establishing a new thread for this stupid concept of the North-East of England gaining independence?
Shouldn't this really go in the UK politics thread (as much as I don't want it to be discussed more than it has been in there).
by Ideal Britain » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:05 pm
by The Huskar Social Union » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:07 pm
Nationalist Northumbria wrote:The Huskar Social Union wrote:Doubt it will get many votes and FPTP guarantees they will make no progress what so ever. Also lol at the idea Northumbria will just take parts of Scotland including its capital, not a chance.
See UKIP and the EU referendum.
Nobody's advocating for that right now. We're focused on the independence of the parts currently in England.
by Ideal Britain » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:07 pm
Nationalist Northumbria wrote:Heloin wrote:“Right now.” It reassuring that in a push for greater regional autonomy, you already have plans for invading Scotland.
It's up to the people of the historically Northumbrian areas in southern Scotland to decide.Celritannia wrote:Didn't the Mods ban you from ever establishing a new thread for this stupid concept of the North-East of England gaining independence?
Shouldn't this really go in the UK politics thread (as much as I don't want it to be discussed more than it has been in there).
No, they didn't. And while I know we've had our differences in the past, I just want to remind you that you are a Northumbrian too (this is all of the North, not just the North East, and it's been all of the North from the start) and you are welcome to join us. Labour is no longer a viable party and under Starmer is focused on appealing to the South.
by Nilokeras » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:08 pm
Nationalist Northumbria wrote: more than ten thousand followers on Twitter,
by Nationalist Northumbria » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:08 pm
Ideal Britain wrote:So people don't like restrictions to save the lives of the North's old people so much they create an independence movement? God Save The Queen!
by Celritannia » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:09 pm
Nationalist Northumbria wrote:Celritannia wrote:Didn't the Mods ban you from ever establishing a new thread for this stupid concept of the North-East of England gaining independence?
Shouldn't this really go in the UK politics thread (as much as I don't want it to be discussed more than it has been in there).
No, they didn't. And while I know we've had our differences in the past, I just want to remind you that you are a Northumbrian too (this is all of the North, not just the North East, and it's been all of the North from the start) and you are welcome to join us. Labour is no longer a viable party and under Starmer is focused on appealing to the South.
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by Mannixa Prime » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:09 pm
by Ideal Britain » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:09 pm
Nationalist Northumbria wrote:Ideal Britain wrote:So people don't like restrictions to save the lives of the North's old people so much they create an independence movement? God Save The Queen!
What an insulting attack.
No, it's about what Westminster has done. Look at what happened with Manchester and Andy Burnham. Not enough support when support was needed, then when we complained about that they cut the support even further. And that's continuing. And happening all over the North. If Northumbria was independent we would be able to protect all our people, including the elderly.
by Nationalist Northumbria » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:10 pm
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Nationalist Northumbria wrote:See UKIP and the EU referendum.
Nobody's advocating for that right now. We're focused on the independence of the parts currently in England.
"Right now" its never gona happen. Scotland nor the UK is ever going to give an independent Northumbria its capital city and a bunch of land because some Northern English people say so
Also UKIP doesnt exist any more mate in any way that matters. And as for the EU referendum thats not really comparable when the answers are "Yes/No" as opposed to "Conservative/Labour/Liberal Democrats/Greens/Insert local party here"
Also if you are looking at Brexit and going "Yeah we should do that!" then Sigmar have Mercy on you.
by Heloin » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:11 pm
Ideal Britain wrote:Nationalist Northumbria wrote:What an insulting attack.
No, it's about what Westminster has done. Look at what happened with Manchester and Andy Burnham. Not enough support when support was needed, then when we complained about that they cut the support even further. And that's continuing. And happening all over the North. If Northumbria was independent we would be able to protect all our people, including the elderly.
Good point. But how would Northumbrian manufacturing compete with cheaper powers in Asia?
by Celritannia » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:12 pm
Nationalist Northumbria wrote:The Huskar Social Union wrote:"Right now" its never gona happen. Scotland nor the UK is ever going to give an independent Northumbria its capital city and a bunch of land because some Northern English people say so
Also UKIP doesnt exist any more mate in any way that matters. And as for the EU referendum thats not really comparable when the answers are "Yes/No" as opposed to "Conservative/Labour/Liberal Democrats/Greens/Insert local party here"
Also if you are looking at Brexit and going "Yeah we should do that!" then Sigmar have Mercy on you.
As I said, this movement is about the independence of the Northumbrian areas currently in England.
No, I'm using Brexit as an example of a party that, while it didn't win under FPTP, forced its policies to get a referendum which then passed. There was also a time in the 1970s when Scottish independence was seen as possible when the SNP made a breakthrough even despite FPTP (and given the current circumstances such a breakthrough could easily be repeated here with Northumbrian nationalism and the Northern Independence Party).
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by The Huskar Social Union » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:12 pm
by Nationalist Northumbria » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:12 pm
Celritannia wrote:Nationalist Northumbria wrote:
No, they didn't. And while I know we've had our differences in the past, I just want to remind you that you are a Northumbrian too (this is all of the North, not just the North East, and it's been all of the North from the start) and you are welcome to join us. Labour is no longer a viable party and under Starmer is focused on appealing to the South.
When you have actually statistics than all of the North wants to be independent, come back to me.
Because Yorkshire will not want to be part of a neo-Northumbria. Neither does the North-West.
Keir Starmer is wanting to federalise the UK, which I agree with.
And he is not appealing to the South, he is holding the Tories to account, which is his primary job for now. HE does not need to go into policies until near the election.
by Ideal Britain » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:13 pm
Celritannia wrote:Nationalist Northumbria wrote:As I said, this movement is about the independence of the Northumbrian areas currently in England.
No, I'm using Brexit as an example of a party that, while it didn't win under FPTP, forced its policies to get a referendum which then passed. There was also a time in the 1970s when Scottish independence was seen as possible when the SNP made a breakthrough even despite FPTP (and given the current circumstances such a breakthrough could easily be repeated here with Northumbrian nationalism and the Northern Independence Party).
Northumbrian nationalism does not exist outside of Northumberland.
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