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Postby Mannixa Prime » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:01 pm

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.forbes. ... dency/amp/

Well if this report is true the Middle East will suffer even more as the possibility of war with Iran will bring chaos on an untold scale. So far Forbes and Fox News (gross I know) are the two biggest sources I could find but outlets big and small are continuing to swirl rumors around.

So my question is NSG is war with Iran possible in the waning days of the Trump presidency? Will America and Israel go from trying to destabilize Iran to outright invading it?

Personally I think it is very likely, the world is focused on COVID right now and Iran itself has been hit hard by the pandemic. Israel has been stepping up its attacks on Syria and Palestine and we all know they are not afraid to use their military.

Russia, a close ally of Iran is also preoccupied with the Armenia situation.

Either way, with neoconservatives and neoliberals firmly entrenched in both major American political parties the prospect of a peaceful situation (if these rumors are true) is very unlikely.

And finally let us not forget the biggest wildcard of them all. A desperate, unstable, incompetent and isolated President Donald Trump. This might be the perfect opportunity for him to seize an excuse to remain in office and provide a distraction from his various and damning legal issues.
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Postby Sanghyeok » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:02 pm

I hate this year so much.
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Sanghyeok wrote:I hate this year so much.

look on the Bright side, 2020 was at least slightly better than 1010
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Postby Zaviana » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:04 pm

Me too, but at least there were some good things.
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Postby Resilient Acceleration » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:05 pm

So... have anyone done anything yet? For now what's happening is that the Israelis are preparing for the *possibility* that Trump will do something stupid in his end game.

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:05 pm

Mannixa Prime wrote:https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2020/11/25/report-israeli-military-braces-for-possibility-trump-attacks-iran-in-final-days-of-presidency/amp/

Well if this report is true the Middle East will suffer even more as the possibility of war with Iran will bring chaos on an untold scale. So far Forbes and Fox News (gross I know) are the two biggest sources I could find but outlets big and small are continuing to swirl rumors around.

So my question is NSG is war with Iran possible in the waning days of the Trump presidency? Will America and Israel go from trying to destabilize Iran to outright invading it?

Personally I think it is very likely, the world is focused on COVID right now and Iran itself has been hit hard by the pandemic. Israel has been stepping up its attacks on Syria and Palestine and we all know they are not afraid to use their military.

Russia, a close ally of Iran is also preoccupied with the Armenia situation.

Either way, with neoconservatives and neoliberals firmly entrenched in both major American political parties the prospect of a peaceful situation (if these rumors are true) is very unlikely.

And finally let us not forget the biggest wildcard of them all. A desperate, unstable, incompetent and isolated President Donald Trump. This might be the perfect opportunity for him to seize an excuse to remain in office and provide a distraction from his various and damning legal issues.

That's a "maybe" article. And Trump has < 1% chance of winning the election. War or no war, he's out of here on Jan. 20.
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Postby Mannixa Prime » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:08 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Mannixa Prime wrote:https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2020/11/25/report-israeli-military-braces-for-possibility-trump-attacks-iran-in-final-days-of-presidency/amp/

Well if this report is true the Middle East will suffer even more as the possibility of war with Iran will bring chaos on an untold scale. So far Forbes and Fox News (gross I know) are the two biggest sources I could find but outlets big and small are continuing to swirl rumors around.

So my question is NSG is war with Iran possible in the waning days of the Trump presidency? Will America and Israel go from trying to destabilize Iran to outright invading it?

Personally I think it is very likely, the world is focused on COVID right now and Iran itself has been hit hard by the pandemic. Israel has been stepping up its attacks on Syria and Palestine and we all know they are not afraid to use their military.

Russia, a close ally of Iran is also preoccupied with the Armenia situation.

Either way, with neoconservatives and neoliberals firmly entrenched in both major American political parties the prospect of a peaceful situation (if these rumors are true) is very unlikely.

And finally let us not forget the biggest wildcard of them all. A desperate, unstable, incompetent and isolated President Donald Trump. This might be the perfect opportunity for him to seize an excuse to remain in office and provide a distraction from his various and damning legal issues.

That's a "maybe" article. And Trump has < 1% chance of winning the election. War or no war, he's out of here on Jan. 20.

Agreed on the “maybe” status of the article. It’s honestly so hard to trust any of those reports but given the desire for regime change when it comes to Iran and Donald Trumps wildcard status who knows what could happen.

I hope my view in the OP is the wrong one.
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Postby Dangine » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:11 pm

Don't we already have two new wars going on? those being a civil war in Ethiopia and the other between Morocco and the Polisario Front.
It would be lovely if a war between Iran and the U.S were added to that list. I can imagine Trump doing that as an excuse to not transfer power to Biden.
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:12 pm

Dangine wrote:Don't we already have two new wars going on? those being a civil war in Ethiopia and the other between Morocco and the Polisario Front.
It would be lovely if a war between Iran and the U.S were added to that list. I can imagine Trump doing that as an excuse to not transfer power to Biden.

He has no choice. "Oh, there's a war on, I have to stay president" is not an option.
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Postby Mannixa Prime » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:16 pm

I could also see Trump cutting a deal with the defence industry and the military high command to support his desire to remain in office. With the police firmly on his side and all the top generals wanting war with Iran who could stop Trump from remaining in office?

Either way Biden would have no issue continuing the war as both of them are rabid interventionists.
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:19 pm

Mannixa Prime wrote:I could also see Trump cutting a deal with the defence industry and the military high command to support his desire to remain in office. With the police firmly on his side and all the top generals wanting war with Iran who could stop Trump from remaining in office?

Either way Biden would have no issue continuing the war as both of them are rabid interventionists.

Who could stop him? The FBI, the Armed Forces, the Supreme Court, Congress ... to name a few. He lost the election. He's done.
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Postby Khoronzon » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:24 pm

I was expecting this to be an International Incidents thread with either a very unfortunate or very clever title - a shame it turned out to be a serious, albeit clickbaity, news thread whose premise is, to quote the article, "based on a hunch". At least nothing drastic has happened yet. It'd be awfully funny if I was right, though.
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Postby The Republic of Fore » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:59 pm

Yeah, no this isn't going anywhere. It's just another excuse for the media to fearmonger and jump up and down screaming "the end is nigh!"

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Postby Adamede » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:10 am

So what are we supposed to discuss about this?

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Postby Adamede » Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:11 am

Mannixa Prime wrote:I could also see Trump cutting a deal with the defence industry and the military high command to support his desire to remain in office. With the police firmly on his side and all the top generals wanting war with Iran who could stop Trump from remaining in office?

Either way Biden would have no issue continuing the war as both of them are rabid interventionists.

That’s a good way to start a civil war.

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Postby Vivolkha » Thu Nov 26, 2020 4:43 am

Yeah, I've seen those rumors in my local media as well, but they are just that, rumors... (I mean, news outlets here tend to have a ton of filler content to hide the fact that they are barely reporting on any important news). Until anything actually happens, I'll just pretend they don't exist.
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Postby Mannixa Prime » Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:11 am

Adamede wrote:So what are we supposed to discuss about this?

Says right in the OP :roll:
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:46 am

How about if Israel wants to strike Iran, they fight their own war? Cause frankly we shouldn't even be in the region, and our troops shouldn't be dying and killing in the middle east again.

Thatll be a big no from me. No Iran strike.
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Postby Rio Cana » Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:21 am

RT in Spanish posted a written story on this possibly happening. Seems Israel is rushing in order to get there military forces ready since they feel the US could possibly decide to attack an Iranian Uranium enriching processing plant. Israel expects that anything could happen until Biden takes over. They say an attack on the Iranian site would trigger a larger war.

Story but its in Spanish - https://actualidad.rt.com/actualidad/37 ... trump-iran

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Postby North American Imperial State » Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:24 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:How about if Israel wants to strike Iran, they fight their own war? Cause frankly we shouldn't even be in the region, and our troops shouldn't be dying and killing in the middle east again.

Thatll be a big no from me. No Iran strike.

Well the US has been in the region for decades, may as well call it you 2nd home
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North American Imperial State wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:How about if Israel wants to strike Iran, they fight their own war? Cause frankly we shouldn't even be in the region, and our troops shouldn't be dying and killing in the middle east again.

Thatll be a big no from me. No Iran strike.

Well the US has been in the region for decades, may as well call it you 2nd home


We never should have been there. It was a bad idea.
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Postby Brinckerhoff » Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:51 am

We're taking Trump's blathering seriously? The man has an attention span of a toddler.

Mannixa Prime wrote:https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2020/11/25/report-israeli-military-braces-for-possibility-trump-attacks-iran-in-final-days-of-presidency/amp/

Well if this report is true the Middle East will suffer even more as the possibility of war with Iran will bring chaos on an untold scale. So far Forbes and Fox News (gross I know) are the two biggest sources I could find but outlets big and small are continuing to swirl rumors around.

So my question is NSG is war with Iran possible in the waning days of the Trump presidency? Will America and Israel go from trying to destabilize Iran to outright invading it?

Personally I think it is very likely, the world is focused on COVID right now and Iran itself has been hit hard by the pandemic. Israel has been stepping up its attacks on Syria and Palestine and we all know they are not afraid to use their military.

Russia, a close ally of Iran is also preoccupied with the Armenia situation.

Either way, with neoconservatives and neoliberals firmly entrenched in both major American political parties the prospect of a peaceful situation (if these rumors are true) is very unlikely.

And finally let us not forget the biggest wildcard of them all. A desperate, unstable, incompetent and isolated President Donald Trump. This might be the perfect opportunity for him to seize an excuse to remain in office and provide a distraction from his various and damning legal issues.

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Postby Nakena » Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:56 am

If he does strike against them he will alienate a very important part of his base who is staunchly opposed to any more engagements in the middle east including and especially if those are basically acting as military arm of israeli interests.

That being said he could easily order a devastating strike on the mullah's nuclear facilities. Consequences to be dealt with by Biden then.

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Postby Mannixa Prime » Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:03 am

Nakena wrote:If he does strike against them he will alienate a very important part of his base who is staunchly opposed to any more engagements in the middle east including and especially if those are basically acting as military arm of israeli interests.

That being said he could easily order a devastating strike on the mullah's nuclear facilities. Consequences to be dealt with by Biden then.

I don’t think his base will abandon him any time soon. Their cult worship of trump supersedes any ideological convictions.

His base stood by when he attacked Assad and stacked his cabinet with neocon warmongers.

I’ve noticed most “anti war” types in the GOP only oppose pointless wars if a Democrat starts it.
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