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Postby DavanteAdams » Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:21 am

Free Las Pinas wrote:Alternatively, how about a card rarity even lower than common cards?

/s

Yes but what would that be worth?
If it is lower than .01 that would take a lot of programming so we have more bank options.

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Postby Mathuvan Union » Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:24 am

DavanteAdams wrote:
Free Las Pinas wrote:Alternatively, how about a card rarity even lower than common cards?

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Yes but what would that be worth?
If it is lower than .01 that would take a lot of programming so we have more bank options.

What if the Common had .01 worth and the Ultra Common has 0.02 worth
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Postby DavanteAdams » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:40 am

Mathuvan Union wrote:
DavanteAdams wrote:Yes but what would that be worth?
If it is lower than .01 that would take a lot of programming so we have more bank options.

What if the Common had .01 worth and the Ultra Common has 0.02 worth

Eh that would seem pointless to me.

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Postby Holland DS6 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:55 am

Mathuvan Union wrote:
DavanteAdams wrote:Yes but what would that be worth?
If it is lower than .01 that would take a lot of programming so we have more bank options.

What if the Common had .01 worth and the Ultra Common has 0.02 worth

I get the name suggestion, but it sounds more valuable than .02, with the ultra, and a little disappointing since it is only worth .02
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:56 am

Holland DS6 wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:What if the Common had .01 worth and the Ultra Common has 0.02 worth

I get the name suggestion, but it sounds more valuable than .02, with the ultra, and a little disappointing since it is only worth .02

so Uncommon is 0.02, Ultra Common is 0.05
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Postby Noahs Second Country » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:23 pm

Wouldn't an ultra-common mean that the card would be more common?

Why would those cards be worth more? Why am I even entertaining this idea?

A new "in-between" rarity would be even worse than a new top-level rarity.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:24 pm

Noahs Second Country wrote:Wouldn't an ultra-common mean that the card would be more common?

Why would those cards be worth more? Why am I even entertaining this idea?

A new "in-between" rarity would be even worse than a new top-level rarity.

Yeah I was just thinking that.
I don't mind the current system, but I don't support a new top tier.
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Postby HumanSanity » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:29 pm

Is there an actual problem in the current cards market or with current card rarities that this proposal is attempting to fix? Or are we just speculating wildly on a change no one needs?

Right now, it seems to be the latter.

Agree with everything TUMS and Noah said.
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Postby The Unified Missourtama States » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:12 pm

HumanSanity wrote:Is there an actual problem in the current cards market or with current card rarities that this proposal is attempting to fix? Or are we just speculating wildly on a change no one needs?

Right now, it seems to be the latter.

Agree with everything TUMS and Noah said.

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Ultimately what this discussion comes down to is when do we stop adding new rarities? I know from the posts in this thread that the reasons many of you are asking for the addition of a new rarity is either because you:
  1. want a rarer rarity for your own card next season
    I'm sorry to tell you that even if you do make it to Legendary class in a world with an extra higher rarity, you will still not feel the best because there will still be some people above you, and truth is you aren't the best, rarity is a reflection of hard work, and even not everyone who works hard gets there.
  2. are bored of cards
    I'm not bored of cards! There is so much to do in cards, just like so many other things in NationStates it is a sandbox. There are plenty of people who are not bored, and love the current system.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:22 pm

Cirrus Azale wrote:
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An auction, [v] sells off one mythic rarity to be given to a nation in s3. The highest bidder wins, and their card will be mythic in the next season?


So we’re looking at Koem Kab, The Northern Light, 9003, and Giovanniland all getting there cards to mythic rarity throughout seasons? I think it’d be cool if you just picked 10-20 random nations and suddenly their card had value.


What? No?

I mean an auction, people bidding money(not bank! money), highest bidder gets to choose the one mythic rarity nation card of next season.
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Postby DavanteAdams » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:27 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Cirrus Azale wrote:
So we’re looking at Koem Kab, The Northern Light, 9003, and Giovanniland all getting there cards to mythic rarity throughout seasons? I think it’d be cool if you just picked 10-20 random nations and suddenly their card had value.


What? No?

I mean an auction, people bidding money, highest bidder gets to choose the one mythic rarity nation card of next season.



What he means is they all have the most money so it will be them buying it.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:28 pm

DavanteAdams wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
What? No?

I mean an auction, people bidding money, highest bidder gets to choose the one mythic rarity nation card of next season.



What he means is they all have the most money so it will be them buying it.


That's bank, not money.

I edited my post to reflect that.
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Postby DavanteAdams » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:31 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
DavanteAdams wrote:

What he means is they all have the most money so it will be them buying it.


That's bank, not money.

I edited my post to reflect that.


Who the hell is gonna spend a ton of money a fucking computer game?

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Postby Mathuvan Union » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:35 pm

DavanteAdams wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
That's bank, not money.

I edited my post to reflect that.


Who the hell is gonna spend a ton of money a fucking computer game?

Talk to Tinhampton and the SC Gang.
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Postby Sedgistan » Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:57 pm

There's a whole lot of "wouldn't it be cool if we..." posts, as well as overly detailed suggestions of new rarities and their respective values and colours.

There's very little thought being put into explaining what the benefits of adding new rarities to the card game would be.

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Postby DavanteAdams » Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:14 pm

Sedgistan wrote:There's a whole lot of "wouldn't it be cool if we..." posts, as well as overly detailed suggestions of new rarities and their respective values and colours.

There's very little thought being put into explaining what the benefits of adding new rarities to the card game would be.


Ok.
I am glad you brought this up.
Some of the benefits that would come in a Mythic Rarity would include
-New Interest

-Good start for a new card farmer (If they get a Mythic)

- Less of a need for inflation since there is a real High MV card.

There are many others I could list off but thats all I can think of rn.

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Postby Comfed » Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:21 pm

DavanteAdams wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
That's bank, not money.

I edited my post to reflect that.


Who the hell is gonna spend a ton of money a fucking computer game?

You’d be surprised...

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Postby Mathuvan Union » Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:42 pm

DavanteAdams wrote:
Sedgistan wrote:There's a whole lot of "wouldn't it be cool if we..." posts, as well as overly detailed suggestions of new rarities and their respective values and colours.

There's very little thought being put into explaining what the benefits of adding new rarities to the card game would be.


Ok.
I am glad you brought this up.
Some of the benefits that would come in a Mythic Rarity would include
-New Interest

-Good start for a new card farmer (If they get a Mythic)

- Less of a need for inflation since there is a real High MV card.

There are many others I could list off but thats all I can think of rn.

No, that in itself is rubbish. There's less need for inflation because it's worth a Zimbabwean Billion Dollar Note.
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Postby Luna Amore » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:17 am

The only rarity change I think would be beneficial is to set a Staff rarity so the staff cards stop taking up Legendary slots. Could make the Legendary level easier for a player to get into.
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Postby DavanteAdams » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:43 am

Luna Amore wrote:The only rarity change I think would be beneficial is to set a Staff rarity so the staff cards stop taking up Legendary slots. Could make the Legendary level easier for a player to get into.


Thats actually what I proposed earlier too. That would be a good idea if we were not to add a new rarity for cards.

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Postby Honeydewistania » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:49 am

Luna Amore wrote:The only rarity change I think would be beneficial is to set a Staff rarity so the staff cards stop taking up Legendary slots. Could make the Legendary level easier for a player to get into.

That is a fantastic idea, though would it include the non-automatically legendary staff members too? (RP mods, GenSec)
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:08 am

Luna Amore wrote:The only rarity change I think would be beneficial is to set a Staff rarity so the staff cards stop taking up Legendary slots. Could make the Legendary level easier for a player to get into.

'Staff Rarity' doesn't sound as electrifying as Legendary.
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Postby Comfed » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:31 am

Mathuvan Union wrote:
Luna Amore wrote:The only rarity change I think would be beneficial is to set a Staff rarity so the staff cards stop taking up Legendary slots. Could make the Legendary level easier for a player to get into.

'Staff Rarity' doesn't sound as electrifying as Legendary.

It wouldn’t have to be called that.

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Postby Mathuvan Union » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:32 am

Comfed wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:'Staff Rarity' doesn't sound as electrifying as Legendary.

It wouldn’t have to be called that.

Yeah, I got that, but it was dry humour
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