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by New Visayan Islands » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:50 am
by Lost Memories » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:45 am
New Visayan Islands wrote:Friendly reminder that November 22nd is Sollemnitas DNIC Universorum Regis under the current General Roman Calendar.
¡Viva Cristo Rey!
by Black Hetmanate » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:55 pm
by The Archregimancy » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:34 pm
by Lost Memories » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:46 pm
by The Blaatschapen » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:58 pm
Lost Memories wrote:I think there is a lot of inflated perception over the "success of atheism"
Most of the (west) news media is irreligiously biased, history books for the last 500 years have been irreligiously biased (especially those written in english, under aristocratic and/or snobbish propaganda), the internet is mainly populated by those with lots of time to spare, meaning many teens in their edgy atheist phase of life (or said otherwise, the phase of personal decision over faith), inflating the perception of atheist relevance over internet.
There is also, worldwide more than half of the atheists are chinese (720,100,000 chinese atheists over 1,193,750,000 atheists worldwide), who either have their folk cults, cult of money, or cult of the chinese communist heroes.
Once one either learns to filter out biases from the media, or finds less biased sources with a more complete coverage, once one studies a bit history from researches up to date with the current discourse on historiography, and just spends less time following the internet trends, it just starts to look like an atheist bubble, like the economic bubbles, it's going to bursts eventually.
The muslims in comparison have a much firmer hold over reality than the atheists.
(only so long the governments of the muslim majority nations are going to enforce islam, without government religious enforcement there may be much fewer muslims around)
by The New California Republic » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:03 pm
The Blaatschapen wrote:Lost Memories wrote:I think there is a lot of inflated perception over the "success of atheism"
Most of the (west) news media is irreligiously biased, history books for the last 500 years have been irreligiously biased (especially those written in english, under aristocratic and/or snobbish propaganda), the internet is mainly populated by those with lots of time to spare, meaning many teens in their edgy atheist phase of life (or said otherwise, the phase of personal decision over faith), inflating the perception of atheist relevance over internet.
There is also, worldwide more than half of the atheists are chinese (720,100,000 chinese atheists over 1,193,750,000 atheists worldwide), who either have their folk cults, cult of money, or cult of the chinese communist heroes.
Once one either learns to filter out biases from the media, or finds less biased sources with a more complete coverage, once one studies a bit history from researches up to date with the current discourse on historiography, and just spends less time following the internet trends, it just starts to look like an atheist bubble, like the economic bubbles, it's going to bursts eventually.
The muslims in comparison have a much firmer hold over reality than the atheists.
(only so long the governments of the muslim majority nations are going to enforce islam, without government religious enforcement there may be much fewer muslims around)
What does this post have to do with christianity? It's only paragraphs on atheists and muslims
by Black Hetmanate » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:08 pm
by Adamede » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:32 pm
Black Hetmanate wrote:Adamede wrote:I think he means if somehow the Muslims came to dominate the West Western culture would become far more Christian fundamentalist as a backlash.
Not really. We share with Islam some of the Old Testament, Jesus is seen by Muslims as one of the prophets and Mary is also the most important woman to their beliefs. According to Qur'an, Christians are among the Peoples of the Book, who receive preferable treatment compared to other religions. We would likely witness a return to an Abrahamic-derived morality. My point was such a situation would likely be more Christian in spirit than the current Western culture, which ends up further and further from its Christian influences each year. Calling our current civilization Christian in any form would be blapshemous. It remains a question of what do we prefer, as Muslims are outnumbering us demographically and atheists are winning the public discourse with us. Gospel-wise, all of this has been predicted and we are not to fear either way.
by Black Hetmanate » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:42 pm
Adamede wrote:That’s not becoming more Christian, that’s just shifting to an Islamic dominated culture where if you’re not Muslim you better be a dhimmi.
Adamede wrote:And seeing what comes from Muslim fundamentals it’s, if that an example of Abrahamic derived morality I’d say we’re better off without it.
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:55 pm
by Salus Maior » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:36 pm
by Tarsonis » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:41 pm
Salus Maior wrote:Just want to say, I would rather die than live in an Islamic society.
A secular society with freedom of religion is fine, comparatively.
by Old Tyrannia » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:50 am
by The Archregimancy » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:16 am
Salus Maior wrote:Just want to say, I would rather die than live in an Islamic society.
by Luminesa » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:35 am
Old Tyrannia wrote:Happy Stir-up Sunday to my fellow Anglicans, and a happy Feast of Christ the King to those who celebrate it. I'd like to share today's collect from the Book of Common Prayer: "Stir up, we beseech thee, O Lord, the wills of thy faithful people; that they, plenteously bringing forth the fruit of good works, may of thee be plenteously rewarded; through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen."
by Adamede » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:06 am
Black Hetmanate wrote:Adamede wrote:That’s not becoming more Christian, that’s just shifting to an Islamic dominated culture where if you’re not Muslim you better be a dhimmi.
Why not? It's much closer to Christianity than what much of what dominates our culture today.Adamede wrote:And seeing what comes from Muslim fundamentals it’s, if that an example of Abrahamic derived morality I’d say we’re better off without it.
The same could be said about some of our "fundamentals" from the countless sects and denominations we've developed and even the rhetoric and actions of some major denomination mavericks.
by Sundiata » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:20 am
by Salus Maior » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:06 pm
by The New California Republic » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:06 pm
Old Tyrannia wrote:Happy Stir-up Sunday to my fellow Anglicans
by Salus Maior » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:08 pm
The Archregimancy wrote:Salus Maior wrote:Just want to say, I would rather die than live in an Islamic society.
Well, I've done it twice now, and my testicles didn't shrivel up and fall off, nor did I end up declaring that Allah is the one true God, and Mohammed his prophet; so personal experience suggests it's survivable.
by The Archregimancy » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:30 pm
Salus Maior wrote:The Archregimancy wrote:
Well, I've done it twice now, and my testicles didn't shrivel up and fall off, nor did I end up declaring that Allah is the one true God, and Mohammed his prophet; so personal experience suggests it's survivable.
Considering you are a foreign professional in the Middle East, I would hope that you know that your experience in Egypt, the Arabian peninsula, etc. would be different from the native Christian community that lives under Islamic societies permanently, such as the Copts or Assyrians.
by Salus Maior » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:33 pm
The Archregimancy wrote:Though it would also be fair to point out that, unless I've sadly misjudged this, I almost certainly know rather more Copts in Egypt than you do.
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