2020 US General Election Thread XIII: Nocturne

[Eukaryotic Cells]

barr allows bullshit to continue

Can't wait to see this Benedict Arnold get kicked to the curb.

[Forsher]

Could Biden win the Senate by choosing Republicans in blue states to be Cabinet members, thus freeing their seats? Or would he need to choose Senators whose governors are Democrats???

EDIT: really bad typo

Could those politicians just refuse to take up the minister post?

I would assume.

Mostly I was just trying to find some way of justifying this.

[Forsher]

Republicans refuse to confirm Republican senators to Cabinet positions in a Democratic government?

I mean, yes, it's blatantly an attempt to let Democratic Governors choose Democrats and thereby release the Senate, but still...

They could if they wanted too. If theory they could refuse to vote on any executive appointment or judge Biden appoints.

Sorry, I was unclear. I mean, wouldn't Republicans have an interest in making Biden govern as much like a Republican as possible? And that by having senior Republicans in cabinet, that would be more effectively achieved?

[Washington Resistance Army]

They could if they wanted too. If theory they could refuse to vote on any executive appointment or judge Biden appoints.

Sorry, I was unclear. I mean, wouldn't Republicans have an interest in making Biden govern as much like a Republican as possible? And that by having senior Republicans in cabinet, that would be more effectively achieved?

They'd have a much easier time making him do that by continuing to hold the Senate majority.

[The Blaatschapen]

Could those politicians just refuse to take up the minister post?

I would assume.

Mostly I was just trying to find some way of justifying this.

Time for a dream team of NSGers on cabinet posts?

[San Lumen]

They could if they wanted too. If theory they could refuse to vote on any executive appointment or judge Biden appoints.

Sorry, I was unclear. I mean, wouldn't Republicans have an interest in making Biden govern as much like a Republican as possible? And that by having senior Republicans in cabinet, that would be more effectively achieved?

Not if it would cost them a Senate seat. I doubt they'd confirm any Republican senators whose state has a Democratic governor if it meant an automatic loss of that seat.

[Zurkerx]

Okay, I'm still working on calculating everyone's predictions but in total, we had- excluding my friend- 28 of us made serious predictions. Of those 28, only Esalia (Esalia) is on track to exactly predicting and calling for the correct results: Biden 306 to Trump's 232. Now, there are three States that remain uncall: Alaska, Georgia, and North Carolina. I counted Alaska as Trump's since he'll win there but the other two are unknown. However, Biden leans in Georgia while Trump leans in North Carolina which if they go that way, Esalia calls it perfectly. I won't be counting GA or NC until they're officially called.

[Whitemore]

Sorry, I was unclear. I mean, wouldn't Republicans have an interest in making Biden govern as much like a Republican as possible? And that by having senior Republicans in cabinet, that would be more effectively achieved?

Not if it would cost them a Senate seat. I doubt they'd confirm any Republican senators whose state has a Democratic governor if it meant an automatic loss of that seat.

Off topic a bit but Doug Jones is rumored to be the front-runner for U.S. Attorney General, a bit interesting if they'd confirm it.

[Bombadil]

I would assume.

Mostly I was just trying to find some way of justifying this.

Time for a dream team of NSGers on cabinet posts?

I did already call dibs on Special Envoy to the Bahamas a couple of threads ago so don't anyone rain on my parade.

[San Lumen]

Not if it would cost them a Senate seat. I doubt they'd confirm any Republican senators whose state has a Democratic governor if it meant an automatic loss of that seat.

Off topic a bit but Doug Jones is rumored to be the front-runner for U.S. Attorney General, a bit interesting if they'd confirm it.

Who knows. I would not put it past McConnell to block every single cabinet pick.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Off topic a bit but Doug Jones is rumored to be the front-runner for U.S. Attorney General, a bit interesting if they'd confirm it.

Who knows. I would not put it past McConnell to block every single cabinet pick.

McConnell's plan last I heard is every cabinet pick gets blocked unless the Republicans deem them to be moderate enough.

[Whitemore]

Off topic a bit but Doug Jones is rumored to be the front-runner for U.S. Attorney General, a bit interesting if they'd confirm it.

Who knows. I would not put it past McConnell to block every single cabinet pick.

I wouldn't be surprised if McConnell just refused to have any hearings on cabinet picks, leaving the Biden Admin crippled from the start of it's term.

[Bombadil]

Off topic a bit but Doug Jones is rumored to be the front-runner for U.S. Attorney General, a bit interesting if they'd confirm it.

Who knows. I would not put it past McConnell to block every single cabinet pick.

Exactly, nor would I - this is all purely to justify blocking everything on the basis the election was not legitimate.

[Major-Tom]

I would assume.

Mostly I was just trying to find some way of justifying this.

Time for a dream team of NSGers on cabinet posts?

As a sheep, you'd make a great Secretary of Agriculture. Throw in WRA as Defense Secretary (he can defend the US single-handedly), maybe Therm in Veteran's Affairs, you get the gist.

[Major-Tom]

Who knows. I would not put it past McConnell to block every single cabinet pick.

I wouldn't be surprised if McConnell just refused to have any hearings on cabinet picks, leaving the Biden Admin crippled from the start of it's term.

I...don't even know the political ramifications of that. One side of me feels like the GOP would be slaughtered for trying to do that, but the rational side of me knows it would allow them to paint the Dems as "weak." Thus, allowing them to win big in 2022. *sighs*

Able to rig an entire election, unable to pick a Cabinet member, nobody gets sick of the double-speak, god love it.

[Rusozak]

Must be weird ass paranoia. What time is it in your location?

Close to 7pm. Someone called the police. They just arrived.

Haven't had anything bad like that thankfully, but Election night was one big game of "Is that sound fireworks or gunshots?"

[Forsher]

Sorry, I was unclear. I mean, wouldn't Republicans have an interest in making Biden govern as much like a Republican as possible? And that by having senior Republicans in cabinet, that would be more effectively achieved?

Not if it would cost them a Senate seat. I doubt they'd confirm any Republican senators whose state has a Democratic governor if it meant an automatic loss of that seat.

I suppose... but Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Montana, North Carolina and Wisconsin are the opportunities to try and convince Republican Senators to take up other posts... I guess, ideally, ones that wouldn't require their Senate colleagues to approve.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Also it's a small thing but Biden's insistence on the need for a hard border to not be put up in Ireland is a great start to his foreign policy imo. I desperately hope his admin will try to continue dialogue with the DPRK as well because the era of sanctions and all that other shit has clearly failed.

[Forsher]

Who knows. I would not put it past McConnell to block every single cabinet pick.

McConnell's plan last I heard is every cabinet pick gets blocked unless the Republicans deem them to be moderate enough.

The beauty of appointing Republicans...

[San Lumen]

Who knows. I would not put it past McConnell to block every single cabinet pick.

Exactly, nor would I - this is all purely to justify blocking everything on the basis the election was not legitimate.

I almost expect him to do that along with every judge Biden nominates and his fellow senators will go along with it. McConnell's staff should tell him off but they won't do that. They ought to refuse to do any work. In fact the staff of every Republican in Congress ought to refuse to do their jobs and just sit in the office and do nothing.

[Thermodolia]

Also it's a small thing but Biden's insistence on the need for a hard border to not be put up in Ireland is a great start to his foreign policy imo. I desperately hope his admin will try to continue dialogue with the DPRK as well because the era of sanctions and all that other shit has clearly failed.

Why continue with talks when you can just launch WW3 and be the last american president of all time?

[San Lumen]

McConnell's plan last I heard is every cabinet pick gets blocked unless the Republicans deem them to be moderate enough.

The beauty of appointing Republicans...

Republicans would never confirm them.

[Whitemore]

I wouldn't be surprised if McConnell just refused to have any hearings on cabinet picks, leaving the Biden Admin crippled from the start of it's term.

I...don't even know the political ramifications of that. One side of me feels like the GOP would be slaughtered for trying to do that, but the rational side of me knows it would allow them to paint the Dems as "weak." Thus, allowing them to win big in 2022. *sighs*

Able to rig an entire election, unable to pick a Cabinet member, nobody gets sick of the double-speak, god love it.

Though it could also give Biden the image that he needs in order to perhaps win the 2022 midterms, expand the house majority and secure the senate (assuming that Warnock and Ossoff don't win), he could campaign around saying all sorts of things about needing our help in defeating the republicans who refuse to work with him- ignoring the people who voted for him.

[Forsher]

The beauty of appointing Republicans...

Republicans would never confirm them.

At which point you make a meal out of the Republicans refusal to cooperate in spite of Biden's obviously bipartisan style... and hope it wins you some voters in Georgia senate runoffs.

[Thermodolia]

Who knows. I would not put it past McConnell to block every single cabinet pick.

McConnell's plan last I heard is every cabinet pick gets blocked unless the Republicans deem them to be moderate enough.

Jones is very moderate