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Postby Salus Maior » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:41 am

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are they though? really?

Yes, they’re one of the foremost military forces in the world and they’ve been used as gendarmes frequently over France’s modern history.

It seems to me you’re just looking for a reason for a different sort of pogrom to be initiated, and that your outrage rings a little false. Are all pogroms bad, or are some okay if they’re targeted at the “right” people?


There shouldn't be a pogrom against Turks, but these mobs need to be driven off the streets and shown that they can't get away with this. Hell, they should be treated the same way that any ethnic-supremacist group is.

Hell, Turkey should just be thrown under the bus politically for things like this.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:41 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:"Peaceful religion"

Alexa, what is an oxymoron?


So are Athiests violent because there are Christian atheists?
Pick up a Qur’ân, man.

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Postby Senkaku » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:41 am

New Steuben wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Yes, they’re one of the foremost military forces in the world and they’ve been used as gendarmes frequently over France’s modern history.

It seems to me you’re just looking for a reason for a different sort of pogrom to be initiated, and that your outrage rings a little false. Are all pogroms bad, or are some okay if they’re targeted at the “right” people?


no no no

their is "capable" and then their is "willing" these are two differen't things.

And when the democratically elected leaders of the French state decide to deploy them, if that is what they decide to do, I have full confidence in the capability of the French army. They may settle on another course of action, though I think the facts seem to be pushing them towards deploying the army on a larger scale, but doubting the army’s abilities if ordered to implement martial law or whatever is just silly.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:41 am

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Ethnic mobs rampaging through the second city, terrorist murders nationwide, and a massive corona surge seem like solid criteria for declaring martial law or something, no? I mean, a decapitation here or there isn’t worth it, but it seems like they’re maybe at the point where someone needs to pump the brakes on that train

I disagree, every time an attack happens, Charlie Hebdo needs to publish a thousand more copies

So you want to pour gasoline on the fire? I sense an ulterior motive for wanting this.
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Postby Fahran » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:41 am

I'm way too Jewish to want a crusade LARP. That never works out well for us. That said, I do think it would behoove Armenian, Greek, and other vulnerable and targeted communities to arm themselves in case the police presence is insufficient to protect them. It'll make carrying out pogroms far more difficult.

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Postby Saiwania » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:42 am

The person who did the stabbings in Nice, France was Brahim Aouissaoui. He doesn't look of French descent, his first and last name is non-French. He should've been detained ahead of time, along with people like him. I propose that anyone in France fitting that background be interned temporarily. If I had my way, France would for sure have fewer incidents than it is now.
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Postby New Steuben » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:42 am

Salus Maior wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Yes, they’re one of the foremost military forces in the world and they’ve been used as gendarmes frequently over France’s modern history.

It seems to me you’re just looking for a reason for a different sort of pogrom to be initiated, and that your outrage rings a little false. Are all pogroms bad, or are some okay if they’re targeted at the “right” people?


There shouldn't be a pogrom against Turks, but these mobs need to be driven off the streets and shown that they can't get away with this. Armenian protestors should have state protection.

Hell, Turkey should just be thrown under the bus politically for things like this.


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Postby Sanghyeok » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:42 am

New Steuben wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
There shouldn't be a pogrom against Turks, but these mobs need to be driven off the streets and shown that they can't get away with this. Armenian protestors should have state protection.

Hell, Turkey should just be thrown under the bus politically for things like this.


Turkey is an Alpha Male nation dealing with Beta Male Western States


What are you trying to say?
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Postby New Steuben » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:42 am

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Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:I disagree, every time an attack happens, Charlie Hebdo needs to publish a thousand more copies

So you want to pour gasoline on the fire? I sense an ulterior motive for wanting this.


There shouldn't be a fire in the first place, that's the problem.
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Postby Salus Maior » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:43 am

Fahran wrote:I'm way too Jewish to want a crusade LARP. That never works out well for us. That said, I do think it would behoove Armenian, Greek, and other vulnerable and targeted communities to arm themselves in case the police presence is insufficient to protect them. It'll make carrying out pogroms far more difficult.


How do people arm themselves in France?
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Postby Senkaku » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:43 am

Salus Maior wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Yes, they’re one of the foremost military forces in the world and they’ve been used as gendarmes frequently over France’s modern history.

It seems to me you’re just looking for a reason for a different sort of pogrom to be initiated, and that your outrage rings a little false. Are all pogroms bad, or are some okay if they’re targeted at the “right” people?


There shouldn't be a pogrom against Turks, but these mobs need to be driven off the streets and shown that they can't get away with this. Armenian protestors should have state protection.

Hell, Turkey should just be thrown under the bus politically for things like this.

I agree with you, but that should be done by French police and soldiers, not just by random angry mobs of Christian Lyonais civilians as Steuben suggested.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:43 am

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:I disagree, every time an attack happens, Charlie Hebdo needs to publish a thousand more copies

So you want to pour gasoline on the fire? I sense an ulterior motive for wanting this.

Enlighten me, what ulterior motive do you think I am promoting?
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Postby Sanghyeok » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:43 am

New Steuben wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:So you want to pour gasoline on the fire? I sense an ulterior motive for wanting this.


There shouldn't be a fire in the first place, that's the problem.


The fire was started a long time ago.
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Postby New Steuben » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:43 am

Sanghyeok wrote:
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Turkey is an Alpha Male nation dealing with Beta Male Western States


What are you trying to say?


Literally what I just said, Turkey seems to be able to get away with a lot of bullying of western nations, who are SUPPOSED to be it's Allies in NATO

and many of these western nations, like France/Germany have problems like we are seeing now, and do little to really stop it.
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Postby New Visayan Islands » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:43 am

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Sanghyeok wrote:Breaking news: a French priest was brutally shot.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54763136


"Religion of peace" indeed.

New Steuben wrote:I'm not for religious bands of people assaulting anyone, but honestly, Christians in Lyon need to get into lockstep and fucking Crush these Turkish/Azeri muslim mobs. They need to "deus vult" that ass before more people are hurt, this shit needs to be nipped in the butt immediatly.

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Oh, please, Islam is a peaceful religion.

"Peaceful religion"

Alexa, what is an oxymoron?

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Postby Nuroblav » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:44 am

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So are Athiests violent because there are Christian atheists?
Pick up a Qur’ân, man.

Christian atheists?

Seems to be a thing, although I wouldn't call it part of christianity myself.
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Postby New Steuben » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:44 am

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There shouldn't be a fire in the first place, that's the problem.


The fire was started a long time ago.


Not in France, wtf did French people IN FRANCE do to deserve this?
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:44 am

Jolthig wrote:Look, I don't find cartoons of Muhammad pleasant either. I take it seriously like as if a sketch of my parents were drawn to mock them. However, does that i mean I advocate for killing them or boycotting them of their livelihood? No. I use arguments & my example to show why I disagree with the cartoon. I would use it as an opportunity as well to talk about the situation among the Muslim world.

I think everyone unanimously agrees that the Muslims need great reform if they want their faith to survive. I already have my beliefs in a reformer, the founder of my community. However, it's still nonetheless the unanimous agreement of all of us.

Anyway, this is how dialouge and conversation works, and people look & desire for that. Especially sincere individuals.

You'll get those with bigoted views on all sides no matter what, but it's how we conduct ourselves is key here. Many in here are looking at the actions of Muslims. Not their words. I agree with this because i don't want to imitate those muslims. Those are the same people that want to kill me for my beliefs. I want to show the world a better example of Islam, and that example is from the community I come from, and believe in.

I really agree with you Jolthig. You are a great person and I think of you as a friend. :hug:

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Postby The Marlborough » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:44 am

Salus Maior wrote:
Fahran wrote:I'm way too Jewish to want a crusade LARP. That never works out well for us. That said, I do think it would behoove Armenian, Greek, and other vulnerable and targeted communities to arm themselves in case the police presence is insufficient to protect them. It'll make carrying out pogroms far more difficult.


How do people arm themselves in France?

With a musket and all its components, including a strong baguette.
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Postby Senkaku » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:45 am

New Steuben wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:So you want to pour gasoline on the fire? I sense an ulterior motive for wanting this.


There shouldn't be a fire in the first place, that's the problem.

Okay, but there is. Unfortunately that’s the world we live in, so we need to come up with solutions that are relevant to our unfortunate reality rather than just doing whatever.
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Postby The Horror Channel » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:45 am

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"Religion of peace" indeed.


Oh, please, Islam is a peaceful religion. If you think a group is violent because some claiming to follow its doctrine are, there’s a problem, my friend.


Sure, all peaceful religions behead people over drawings and yeet gay people off tall buildings. Also, wtf is a "Christian atheist"? I'm an atheist, nothing xtian about it

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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:45 am

New Visayan Islands wrote:
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"Religion of peace" indeed.

New Steuben wrote:I'm not for religious bands of people assaulting anyone, but honestly, Christians in Lyon need to get into lockstep and fucking Crush these Turkish/Azeri muslim mobs. They need to "deus vult" that ass before more people are hurt, this shit needs to be nipped in the butt immediatly.

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Sorry if I came off as a bit heated, the point I was trying to make is that the concept of organized religion itself lends it to violence, not any particular religion, but organized religion as a whole
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:45 am

Senkaku wrote:
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There shouldn't be a fire in the first place, that's the problem.

Okay, but there is. Unfortunately that’s the world we live in, so we need to come up with solutions that are relevant to our unfortunate reality rather than just doing whatever.

A good start would be getting the current bill in the French assembly aimed at assimilating this parallel society passed
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Postby Fahran » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:46 am

Salus Maior wrote:How do people arm themselves in France?

Acquire a hunting license and keep firearms in the home. The main thing is for communities to organize in self-defense in any way possible. Because the Grey Wolves have no issue hurting people.

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Postby New Steuben » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:48 am

Fahran wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:How do people arm themselves in France?

Acquire a hunting license and keep firearms in the home. The main thing is for communities to organize in self-defense in any way possible. Because the Grey Wolves have no issue hurting people.


Yeah but they are roaming the streets, how are people supposed to arm themselves walking home or whatever?
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