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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:05 am

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New haven america wrote:Anyone wanna break the news to Sai that Arabs and Persians are White?


That is just the US Census being wrong. Arabs aren't White in a European sense, aren't European in origin and are actually a Semitic people native to the Levant like most Jews originally were.


Jews aren't white either then?

Whilst Persians have some ancestral ties to the actual Aryans that settled northern India.


Aryans are white I take it.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:21 am

Alternamerica wrote:Ignore your mom and go with good chemistry. I and many other NSers are the result of interracial marriages; our existence as well as the romances of the past, are acceptable

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I am now 100% convinced you've never seen an Arab before. If you consider southern europe to be part of Europe, at least half of Arabs can then be considered to have European traits.

I mean seriously, does Shakira really look particularly not European? What about Ralph Nader? Casey Kasem? The king of Jordan? Arabs do not look radically different from Europeans, at least not levantine ones.


Arabs, like Hispanics, are the most mixed people in the world. Plus, Greek civilization developed, interacted, influence, and also influenced by the Ancient Near East. But White Nationalists would bend backward to justify whatever racist myth they believe in


I struggle to comprehend what phenotype is being preserved by keeping brown haired, olive skinned Arabs out of brown haired, olive skinned Greece.
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Postby Vu Den Voc » Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:31 am

The only race is the human race. See the reson why we have different nationlaties is because of imginary lines on a map. If you were to look at the earth in space you don't see a dotted line splitting a landmass. You just see the blue oceans and the green land. Human's take these imagary lines to an extreme dividing races of people based on their nation and color. The only difference between lets say an american and a russian is the country they live in. Biologically all humans share 99.9 percent (not exact either slightly more or less, someone correct me if im wrong) of their DNA. All around the world they are people who struggle like you, cry like you, laugh like you, and smile just like you. Its so easy to forget epsically when our skin color may be different/ or what family says.But be a free thinker and love who you want to love. There is nothing wrong with interracial relationship.
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Postby CoraSpia » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:09 am

If this was about someone other than an NSers mother I would have likely not gone with the pleasantries on this shit...but yes, interracial love is absolutely acceptable, so is interracial sex and producing a mixed-race baby.
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Postby Alternamerica » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:02 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Alternamerica wrote:Ignore your mom and go with good chemistry. I and many other NSers are the result of interracial marriages; our existence as well as the romances of the past, are acceptable



Arabs, like Hispanics, are the most mixed people in the world. Plus, Greek civilization developed, interacted, influence, and also influenced by the Ancient Near East. But White Nationalists would bend backward to justify whatever racist myth they believe in


I struggle to comprehend what phenotype is being preserved by keeping brown haired, olive skinned Arabs out of brown haired, olive skinned Greece.


Greece influenced Rome. Rome is in Italy, Italians are White as of the 1960s or something. Rome is the reason why even non-Latin cultures on the peninsula have some unifying cultural aspect.

If we're going by their logic that "Greeks are White" then Persians, Levantine, Sephardi/Mizrahi Jews, Kurds, Armenians, Azerbaijani, and Turks are White as well lmao. The whole concept of "Whiteness" is very recent which is why we can see how bs it is. Romans and Greeks of the past would never see a John Vladimir Mauer as an equal to them. Ancient Greeks and Romans see North Africans and Levantines as more equal to them than a German or Celt. Hell, Europeans today see Whiteness very differently than Americans and would never see a Josip Polskaski as the same "race" as Gunther Krupp

Which goes back to the topic of interracial mixing: it's acceptable and should be acceptable because the definition of race changes all the time. Academia, however, argued there is only Homo Sapiens because all other humans went extinct. So we're basically the same "race"
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:17 am

Alternamerica wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
I struggle to comprehend what phenotype is being preserved by keeping brown haired, olive skinned Arabs out of brown haired, olive skinned Greece.


Greece influenced Rome. Rome is in Italy, Italians are White as of the 1960s or something. Rome is the reason why even non-Latin cultures on the peninsula have some unifying cultural aspect.

If we're going by their logic that "Greeks are White" then Persians, Levantine, Sephardi/Mizrahi Jews, Kurds, Armenians, Azerbaijani, and Turks are White as well lmao. The whole concept of "Whiteness" is very recent which is why we can see how bs it is. Romans and Greeks of the past would never see a John Vladimir Mauer as an equal to them. Ancient Greeks and Romans see North Africans and Levantines as more equal to them than a German or Celt. Hell, Europeans today see Whiteness very differently than Americans and would never see a Josip Polskaski as the same "race" as Gunther Krupp

Which goes back to the topic of interracial mixing: it's acceptable and should be acceptable because the definition of race changes all the time. Academia, however, argued there is only Homo Sapiens because all other humans went extinct. So we're basically the same "race"


We are the only race of mankind left. I've seen some try to claim that races are like subspecies but even that is incorrect since the genetic difference between different races isn't enough to qualify as a subspecies.
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Postby Baltenstein » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:24 am

Alternamerica wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
I struggle to comprehend what phenotype is being preserved by keeping brown haired, olive skinned Arabs out of brown haired, olive skinned Greece.


Greece influenced Rome. Rome is in Italy, Italians are White as of the 1960s or something. Rome is the reason why even non-Latin cultures on the peninsula have some unifying cultural aspect.

If we're going by their logic that "Greeks are White" then Persians, Levantine, Sephardi/Mizrahi Jews, Kurds, Armenians, Azerbaijani, and Turks are White as well lmao. The whole concept of "Whiteness" is very recent which is why we can see how bs it is. Romans and Greeks of the past would never see a John Vladimir Mauer as an equal to them. Ancient Greeks and Romans see North Africans and Levantines as more equal to them than a German or Celt.


In fact, they viewed those latter two as inherently violent, uncivilized, impulse-driven savages.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:25 am

Baltenstein wrote:
Alternamerica wrote:
Greece influenced Rome. Rome is in Italy, Italians are White as of the 1960s or something. Rome is the reason why even non-Latin cultures on the peninsula have some unifying cultural aspect.

If we're going by their logic that "Greeks are White" then Persians, Levantine, Sephardi/Mizrahi Jews, Kurds, Armenians, Azerbaijani, and Turks are White as well lmao. The whole concept of "Whiteness" is very recent which is why we can see how bs it is. Romans and Greeks of the past would never see a John Vladimir Mauer as an equal to them. Ancient Greeks and Romans see North Africans and Levantines as more equal to them than a German or Celt.


In fact, they viewed those latter two as inherently violent, uncivilized, impulse-driven savages.


Imagine Sai trying to explain the concept of white nationalism to Roman soldiers.
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Postby Baltenstein » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:29 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
That is just the US Census being wrong. Arabs aren't White in a European sense, aren't European in origin and are actually a Semitic people native to the Levant like most Jews originally were. Whilst Persians have some ancestral ties to the actual Aryans that settled northern India.


And that makes them not white why?

Your categories seem arbitrary. If your goal is to protect a certain phenotype, many an Arab is perfectly acceptable in our society.


The entire concent cannot be anything other than arbitrary. There isn't a single place anywhere in Afro-Eurasia where you could place a "Here be Whites/Here be Non-Whites" demarcation line on the map without people on both sides of the fence looking virtually identical.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:30 am

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And that makes them not white why?

Your categories seem arbitrary. If your goal is to protect a certain phenotype, many an Arab is perfectly acceptable in our society.


The entire concent cannot be anything other than arbitrary. There isn't a single place anywhere in Afro-Eurasia where you could place a "Here be Whites/Here be Non-Whites" demarcation line on the map without people on both sides of the fence looking virtually identical.


I would laugh if someone tried to do this.

Edit: someone did this and it just made me cringe. https://abagond.wordpress.com/2014/04/1 ... eople/amp/
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Postby Baltenstein » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:31 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
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In fact, they viewed those latter two as inherently violent, uncivilized, impulse-driven savages.


Imagine Sai trying to explain the concept of white nationalism to Roman soldiers.


Roman soldier's reaction:

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:32 am

Baltenstein wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
And that makes them not white why?

Your categories seem arbitrary. If your goal is to protect a certain phenotype, many an Arab is perfectly acceptable in our society.


The entire concent cannot be anything other than arbitrary. There isn't a single place anywhere in Afro-Eurasia where you could place a "Here be Whites/Here be Non-Whites" demarcation line on the map without people on both sides of the fence looking virtually identical.


The only line that is relevant is the white sausage equator.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:34 am

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Imagine Sai trying to explain the concept of white nationalism to Roman soldiers.


Roman soldier's reaction:

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"You and the celts are the same people."
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Postby Spodehaven » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:34 am

Yes race mixing should be encouraged. How else will we eliminate white people?
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:35 am

Spodehaven wrote:Yes race mixing should be encouraged. How else will we eliminate white people?


You better chill out there. That edge almost sliced me like a loaf of Country Rustic.
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Postby Gigantis » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:43 am

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Ngayau wrote:It's not just acceptable - the only way to rid the world of racism is to engage in lots of interracial babymaking. Within a few generations, pigmentation would be just as random as athletic prowess.


Left to their own devices, most people will choose someone similar to them. The only way you can totally get rid of race is by forcing people to mix at gunpoint, & that would literally be the largest genocide in history.


Not true, although a common misunderstanding.

Most people are happy to try sex with someone from a different background, if only once, to see how they like it. (And for those who are wondering where that leaves Europeans: they are exotic to EVERY OTHER RACE - as I found out when I had a fling with someone from another continent, and was called "exotic".)

Most people are not happy being MARRIED to someone from a different background, if only because their own family and peers keep telling them that "you need to settle with someone like us".

The melting pot history of many a past and present nation suggests that these background noises can be safely ignored, but that's not even the point. The point is that sex / babymaking was not linked to marriage until mankind invented agriculture. In the large scheme of things, making babies with someone outside your (small) own group was the norm for 95% of mankind's history. The instinct is still there. Matrimony is a modern invention.

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Postby Alternamerica » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:43 am

Baltenstein wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Imagine Sai trying to explain the concept of white nationalism to Roman soldiers.


Roman soldier's reaction:

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Postby Gigantis » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:44 am

Spodehaven wrote:Yes race mixing should be encouraged. How else will we eliminate white people?


Race mixing is not about elimination, but about combination.
Also: that reply was 100% racist.

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Postby Spodehaven » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:48 am

Gigantis wrote:
Spodehaven wrote:Yes race mixing should be encouraged. How else will we eliminate white people?


Race mixing is not about elimination, but about combination.
Also: that reply was 100% racist.

Tis a joke.
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Spodehaven wrote:Tis a joke.


It's a quite bad joke and in bad taste though...

But I have to confess: I chuckled at that.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:55 am

Spodehaven wrote:
Gigantis wrote:
Race mixing is not about elimination, but about combination.
Also: that reply was 100% racist.

Tis a joke.



I would be a little more careful about making that type of joke in NSG; fairly or not, some posters can be quick to take offence.

I'm not going to hand you a moderator warning since you quickly clarified that it was a joke, but please be aware of the potential for misunderstanding over this sort of thing, and consider this a learning experience. Adding a quick tag to indicate that you are joking can be helpful, especially if people aren't familiar with your posting style..

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Postby Feklarnia » Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:59 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Spodehaven wrote:Yes race mixing should be encouraged. How else will we eliminate white people?


You better chill out there. That edge almost sliced me like a loaf of Country Rustic.

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Postby Saiwania » Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:55 am

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:Jews aren't white either then? Aryans are white I take it.


Aryans aren't White, they're a group that used to be thought of as Indo-Europeans that migrated to northern India but thats false or since been debunked. It was common belief in the late 19th century until after WW2. Aryans originate in Iran but just happened to invade northern India at some point but otherwise aren't White to my knowledge. Aryans are lighter skinned in comparison to the native populations of Indian subcontinent.

As for Jews, some are White and some aren't. Basically all Jews used to be non-White, but because of the Roman empire taking over Judea, a lot of Jews happened to migrate into Europe and spent centuries there, to enough of an extent that a sizeable portion of Jews gradually came to acquire partial or majority European ancestry and hence could pass as White.

Only the Holocaust in Europe reversed this almost in full, via so brutalizing Europe's Jewish population that a big majority voluntarily left European countries permanently for Palestine and other developed countries such as the US or Canada during the post war period.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:39 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:Jews aren't white either then? Aryans are white I take it.


Aryans aren't White, they're a group that used to be thought of as Indo-Europeans that migrated to northern India but thats false or since been debunked. It was common belief in the late 19th century until after WW2. Aryans originate in Iran but just happened to invade northern India at some point but otherwise aren't White to my knowledge. Aryans are lighter skinned in comparison to the native populations of Indian subcontinent.

As for Jews, some are White and some aren't. Basically all Jews used to be non-White, but because of the Roman empire taking over Judea, a lot of Jews happened to migrate into Europe and spent centuries there, to enough of an extent that a sizeable portion of Jews gradually came to acquire partial or majority European ancestry and hence could pass as White.

Only the Holocaust in Europe reversed this almost in full, via so brutalizing Europe's Jewish population that a big majority voluntarily left European countries permanently for Palestine and other developed countries such as the US or Canada during the post war period.


Bruh the levantines the jews descend from can pass for white. If white means "light skin and hair," then you just described millions of Arabs.

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