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by Deus Ignis » Thu Oct 22, 2020 1:57 pm
by Albrenia » Thu Oct 22, 2020 2:00 pm
Deus Ignis wrote:I say Capitalism with some Socialism (I dislike it but it is necessary), however I won't pick democratic Socialism just because of the name, and who cares about giving power to the people? Where would all your money go when your rich and can only barely afford your expenses, then people go around saying, "look he's rich, lets tax him, afterall he has to have tons of money laying around while we are starving!', such is the thought process of Socialism, just because one is rich does not mean they don't have bills and expenses that take away all that money
by Deus Ignis » Thu Oct 22, 2020 2:09 pm
Albrenia wrote:Deus Ignis wrote:I say Capitalism with some Socialism (I dislike it but it is necessary), however I won't pick democratic Socialism just because of the name, and who cares about giving power to the people? Where would all your money go when your rich and can only barely afford your expenses, then people go around saying, "look he's rich, lets tax him, afterall he has to have tons of money laying around while we are starving!', such is the thought process of Socialism, just because one is rich does not mean they don't have bills and expenses that take away all that money
Uhm... that's pretty much exactly what being rich means. Having lots of disposable income, private property and savings.
by Coradortodos » Thu Oct 22, 2020 2:15 pm
by Dominioan » Thu Oct 22, 2020 2:25 pm
Coradortodos wrote:Really In capitalism you get more rights than Communism and Socialism combined
by Kungsu » Thu Oct 22, 2020 2:27 pm
Coradortodos wrote:Really In capitalism you get more rights than Communism and Socialism combined
by Kyundao » Thu Oct 22, 2020 2:58 pm
by Kubra » Thu Oct 22, 2020 3:42 pm
Singaporean model? Don't you mean venetian?Kyundao wrote:Every known Communist system failed as evidenced by the fall of the Soviet Union and market-based reforms in Communist-controlled countries. Venezuela is socialist and they fell apart long before they were hit with US sanctions. Capitalist societies like America, Canada, Central and Northern Europe, the Gulf Kingdoms, Malaysia and Singapore are all still standing and doing really good.
I have to go with capitalism here, specifically the Singaporean model.
by Cordel One » Thu Oct 22, 2020 3:43 pm
by US-SSR » Thu Oct 22, 2020 3:53 pm
Kyundao wrote:Every known Communist system failed as evidenced by the fall of the Soviet Union and market-based reforms in Communist-controlled countries. Venezuela is socialist and they fell apart long before they were hit with US sanctions. Capitalist societies like America, Canada, Central and Northern Europe, the Gulf Kingdoms, Malaysia and Singapore are all still standing and doing really good.
I have to go with capitalism here, specifically the Singaporean model.
by Cordel One » Thu Oct 22, 2020 3:56 pm
by Kyundao » Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:48 pm
US-SSR wrote:Capitalism has failed in every country where it has been tried. Depressions, inequality, unrest, oppression.
by Li Jing » Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:53 pm
by Page » Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:47 pm
by Echellia » Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:50 pm
Page wrote:Since the mods got rid of the right and left discussion threads there have been multiple threads that amount to the same thing. Just an observation.
by Nejii » Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:14 pm
Page wrote:Since the mods got rid of the right and left discussion threads there have been multiple threads that amount to the same thing. Just an observation.
by Nevertopia » Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:29 pm
Albrenia wrote:Democratic Socialism is preferred, but I'd be happy with a Capitalist system that offers proper protections to the poor and needy. Since I can't vote twice though, I chose Democratic Socialism.
Strongly opposed to the authoritarian brand of communism, and to the sort of predatory capitalism that puts profit so far above humanity.
So the CCP won't let me be or let me be me so let me see, they tried to shut me down on CBC but it feels so empty without me.
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by Nejii » Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:31 pm
Nevertopia wrote:Albrenia wrote:Democratic Socialism is preferred, but I'd be happy with a Capitalist system that offers proper protections to the poor and needy. Since I can't vote twice though, I chose Democratic Socialism.
Strongly opposed to the authoritarian brand of communism, and to the sort of predatory capitalism that puts profit so far above humanity.
im on the same boat tbh. Ideally there would be some kind of Social Democratic capitalism as an option but I can only choose for one.
by Nevertopia » Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:33 pm
Nejii wrote:Page wrote:Since the mods got rid of the right and left discussion threads there have been multiple threads that amount to the same thing. Just an observation.
Regardless. I so chose to create this thread to initiate and observe debates and varied opinions on socio-economic principles and their application to the USA or in general. The whole point of this thread was to focus specifically on the given topic. Your observation has already been made prior by another member and doesn't need reiteration. Just an observation and good evening to you.
So the CCP won't let me be or let me be me so let me see, they tried to shut me down on CBC but it feels so empty without me.
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by Nejii » Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:43 pm
Nevertopia wrote:Nejii wrote:
Regardless. I so chose to create this thread to initiate and observe debates and varied opinions on socio-economic principles and their application to the USA or in general. The whole point of this thread was to focus specifically on the given topic. Your observation has already been made prior by another member and doesn't need reiteration. Just an observation and good evening to you.
be careful with that. Any form of criticism on this website can easily be taken as a personal attack to some.
by Nevertopia » Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:47 pm
Nejii wrote:Nevertopia wrote:
be careful with that. Any form of criticism on this website can easily be taken as a personal attack to some.
Yes it can. I was simply stating a redundancy on Page's part and in truth I find it an irrelevant statement. This thread isn't some copy and paste clone.
Now, shall we?
So the CCP won't let me be or let me be me so let me see, they tried to shut me down on CBC but it feels so empty without me.
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by Nejii » Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:49 pm
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