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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:51 pm

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See, that's the thing. We don't have to fight Turkey. The U.S. has the power to neuter a country without ever launching a single jet. Turkey's military power is irrelevant.

What the fuck does "Would you rather end up like Saddam or Noriega?" mean if not a direct threat? Your little power fantasy is irrelevant, the US isn't a superpower anymore.
Have you seen the defense budget of the united states ? America is an oil-loving superpower :roll:
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Postby Punished UMN » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:00 pm

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Punished UMN wrote:What the fuck does "Would you rather end up like Saddam or Noriega?" mean if not a direct threat? Your little power fantasy is irrelevant, the US isn't a superpower anymore.
Have you seen the defense budget of the united states ? America is an oil-loving superpower :roll:

Defense budget does not make a superpower. What makes a superpower is the ability to make other countries do what you want. Time and time again, the US has failed at that.
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Postby Eukaryotic Cells » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:05 pm

I'd say that the US is a superpower. It's just in an obvious and rapid decline.

It's a bit astonishing how badly the US has squandered the strong position it found itself in during the 1990s.

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Postby Sharania » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:24 pm

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I mean, being a certain religion doesn’t make you an insider to politics on the whole other side of the world.

I wouldn’t be able to tell you what the Catholic parties in Europe are doing right now.


They were repeating all the usual pro-Turkish propaganda talking points (while pretending to "respect both sides"). That means that Ins has a steady supply of propaganda and makes them "an insider" of sorts.
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Postby Sharania » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:28 pm

Erdogan supporters on-line: "Neo-Ottomanism is a lie! It doesn't exist! There's nothing to support this claim!"

Erdogan: For real vows to continue Ottomans mission in Caucasus, trash-talks Armenia in a threatening way.

Erdogan supporters on-line - any more denials?
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Postby The Restored Danelaw » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:53 pm

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The Restored Danelaw wrote:Are we still going by the "KSA paid for ISIS" meme?


It's not a meme. KSA sponsors jihadist terrorism.

No it doesn't. Or at least it hasn't since the 80s. What you're looking for is (primarily) the IR and (to a lesser degree) Qatar.
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:42 am

8 more regions under Armenian government occupation gained freedom
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Postby Heloin » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:46 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:8 more regions under Armenian government occupation gained freedom

So you want to give a source for Azerbaijan now fully breaking the ceasefire in order to murder Armenians?

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Postby Albionist Great Britain » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:05 am

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Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:8 more regions under Armenian government occupation gained freedom

So you want to give a source for Azerbaijan now fully breaking the ceasefire in order to murder genocide Armenians?


FTFY.

Also, agreed. Baku pulls a lot of shit out of its Nazi arse, undoubtedly the vermin in charge of that wretched state accuse Armenia of breaking the ceasefire when Armenia isn’t the genocidal and mentally-deranged actor in this conflict. But Baku being as it is likely used this ‘ceasefire’ as time to simply plan their next moves, they aren’t peaceful or honest, but we still need sources.

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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:08 am

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Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:8 more regions under Armenian government occupation gained freedom

So you want to give a source for Azerbaijan now fully breaking the ceasefire in order to murder Armenians?
I do not sanctify death, I just want justice to be done. I support the interests of my conscience, not the interests of the country. Ceasefire will be possible with Armenian government ending its unjust occupation. Ignorance prevails in the region Turks and Armenians unfortunately pay the price of their ignorance.
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Postby Kowani » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:25 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Heloin wrote:So you want to give a source for Azerbaijan now fully breaking the ceasefire in order to murder Armenians?
I do not sanctify death, I just want justice to be done. I support the interests of my conscience, not the interests of the country. Ceasefire will be possible with Armenian government ending its unjust occupation. Ignorance prevails in the region Turks and Armenians unfortunately pay the price of their ignorance.

I’d ask “what occupation” but I don’t feel like getting hosed with Warhawk propaganda.
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Postby Nea Videssos » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:34 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Heloin wrote:So you want to give a source for Azerbaijan now fully breaking the ceasefire in order to murder Armenians?
I do not sanctify death, I just want justice to be done. I support the interests of my conscience, not the interests of the country. Ceasefire will be possible with Armenian government ending its unjust occupation. Ignorance prevails in the region Turks and Armenians unfortunately pay the price of their ignorance.


"Unjust occupation"? You do realise that almost the entire population there is Armenian, right? I guess the area is "unjustly occupied" by Armenians living in their own homeland, and "justice" demands that 1915 be repeated? Seems to be what Erdogan wants, anyway.
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Postby Heloin » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:37 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Heloin wrote:So you want to give a source for Azerbaijan now fully breaking the ceasefire in order to murder Armenians?
I do not sanctify death, I just want justice to be done. I support the interests of my conscience, not the interests of the country. Ceasefire will be possible with Armenian government ending its unjust occupation. Ignorance prevails in the region Turks and Armenians unfortunately pay the price of their ignorance.

You support an invasion that has killed friends of mine who's crime in your eyes was defending their home. There is no unjust occupation unless you mean those towns now under Azeri control. You don't know anything about about what is happening there except that you support Azerbaijan only because they are Turkic. You don't actually care about peace, you don't actually care about ignorance, you only care about Turkic supremacy and I'm sick and tired of you trying to say otherwise.

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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:55 am

Heloin wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:I do not sanctify death, I just want justice to be done. I support the interests of my conscience, not the interests of the country. Ceasefire will be possible with Armenian government ending its unjust occupation. Ignorance prevails in the region Turks and Armenians unfortunately pay the price of their ignorance.

You support an invasion that has killed friends of mine who's crime in your eyes was defending their home. There is no unjust occupation unless you mean those towns now under Azeri control. You don't know anything about about what is happening there except that you support Azerbaijan only because they are Turkic. You don't actually care about peace, you don't actually care about ignorance, you only care about Turkic supremacy and I'm sick and tired of you trying to say otherwise.
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Postby SD_Film Artists » Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:05 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Heloin wrote:You support an invasion that has killed friends of mine who's crime in your eyes was defending their home. There is no unjust occupation unless you mean those towns now under Azeri control. You don't know anything about about what is happening there except that you support Azerbaijan only because they are Turkic. You don't actually care about peace, you don't actually care about ignorance, you only care about Turkic supremacy and I'm sick and tired of you trying to say otherwise.
We are people and we develop by integrating different ideas. If your body is uncomfortable with different thoughts, you shouldn't argue.You must understand that I never defended the superiority of a race.


Still waiting for the source of the '8 more regions under Armenian government occupation gained freedom', and how you think it's an "Unjust occupation". Are you going to reveal these sources or are you just going to keep spitting buzzwords with no context?
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Postby Andsed » Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:16 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Heloin wrote:So you want to give a source for Azerbaijan now fully breaking the ceasefire in order to murder Armenians?
I do not sanctify death, I just want justice to be done. I support the interests of my conscience, not the interests of the country. Ceasefire will be possible with Armenian government ending its unjust occupation. Ignorance prevails in the region Turks and Armenians unfortunately pay the price of their ignorance.

What ¨unjust occupation?¨ The Armenians have the legitimate claim here. The majority in the region favor Armenia. Its the Azeri who are attempting to lay claim to a region they really have no business controlling. If you want to bring up Armenian atrocities and crimes to illustrate how this is not a morally black and white conflict then go ahead, but at least admit that Azerbaijan is in the wrong claiming a region where the people dont want to live under them.
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Postby Aterman » Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:20 am

Fuck Turkey.

They're probably going to interfere.

If they do, it's time for Neo-Ottomanism on the side of dick-sucker ruler.

Then Greek warriors, Syrian Soldiers, Iraqi fighters, and Caucus gamers will steamroll the fucker
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Postby Albionist Great Britain » Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:26 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Heloin wrote:So you want to give a source for Azerbaijan now fully breaking the ceasefire in order to murder Armenians?
I do not sanctify death, I just want justice to be done. I support the interests of my conscience, not the interests of the country. Ceasefire will be possible with Armenian government ending its unjust occupation. Ignorance prevails in the region Turks and Armenians unfortunately pay the price of their ignorance.


The only unjust thing here is the fact Baku hasn’t been kicked in the teeth with steel toe-capped boots. You don’t give a flying fuck about peace, justice or whatever - only Turkic nationalism. We’re sick and tired of your lying and buzzwords.

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Postby Heloin » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:18 pm

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Heloin wrote:You support an invasion that has killed friends of mine who's crime in your eyes was defending their home. There is no unjust occupation unless you mean those towns now under Azeri control. You don't know anything about about what is happening there except that you support Azerbaijan only because they are Turkic. You don't actually care about peace, you don't actually care about ignorance, you only care about Turkic supremacy and I'm sick and tired of you trying to say otherwise.
We are people and we develop by integrating different ideas. If your body is uncomfortable with different thoughts, you shouldn't argue.You must understand that I never defended the superiority of a race.

Saying that my body is “unable” to understand what your saying is the dumbest argument you could use. You support the war, you’ve at no point actually supported peace, only the murder of Armenians who dared to defend their homes from invasion.
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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:24 pm

Heloin wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:We are people and we develop by integrating different ideas. If your body is uncomfortable with different thoughts, you shouldn't argue.You must understand that I never defended the superiority of a race.

Saying that my body is “unable” to understand what your saying is the dumbest argument you could use. You support the war, you’ve at no point actually supported peace, only the murder of Armenians who dared to defend their homes from invasion.


To be honest, we should just consider him a troll and treat him accordingly.

What he's supporting isn't that much different from that anyway.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:54 pm

Aterman wrote:Fuck Turkey.

They're probably going to interfere.

If they do, it's time for Neo-Ottomanism on the side of dick-sucker ruler.

Then Greek warriors, Syrian Soldiers, Iraqi fighters, and Caucus gamers will steamroll the fucker


Caucasian gamers? You mean an army of Georgian and Armenian TF2 players is secretly assembling to take on the Turks?
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:02 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Aterman wrote:Fuck Turkey.

They're probably going to interfere.

If they do, it's time for Neo-Ottomanism on the side of dick-sucker ruler.

Then Greek warriors, Syrian Soldiers, Iraqi fighters, and Caucus gamers will steamroll the fucker


Caucasian gamers? You mean an army of Georgian and Armenian TF2 players is secretly assembling to take on the Turks?
We see the aggression of the Armenian government extending to the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline. So you can understand that the problem is not only Karabakh. the aggression of the armenian government is based on social economic religious nationalism. Thanks to our conscientious Armenian and Turkish brothers, an atmosphere of peace will be established. No more passage to arms dealers from the Caucasus !
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Postby Sharania » Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:38 pm

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:We see the aggression of the Armenian government extending to the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline. So you can understand that the problem is not only Karabakh. the aggression of the armenian government is based on social economic religious nationalism. Thanks to our conscientious Armenian and Turkish brothers, an atmosphere of peace will be established. No more passage to arms dealers from the Caucasus !


Hakinda, are you Sunni or Shia?
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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:45 pm

Sharania wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:We see the aggression of the Armenian government extending to the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline. So you can understand that the problem is not only Karabakh. the aggression of the armenian government is based on social economic religious nationalism. Thanks to our conscientious Armenian and Turkish brothers, an atmosphere of peace will be established. No more passage to arms dealers from the Caucasus !


Hakinda, are you Sunni or Shia?


He's a Turkish nationalist. He's a secularist.
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:46 pm

Aterman wrote:Fuck Turkey.

They're probably going to interfere.

If they do, it's time for Neo-Ottomanism on the side of dick-sucker ruler.

Then Greek warriors, Syrian Soldiers, Iraqi fighters, and Caucus gamers will steamroll the fucker

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