Kubra wrote:Eyy fam is this the new LWDT
It's turning into that by default yes, likely much to the chagrin of the OP themselves given their position...
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by The New California Republic » Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:15 am
Kubra wrote:Eyy fam is this the new LWDT
by UniversalCommons » Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:24 am
by Kubra » Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:29 am
I know I shouldn't be dredging up old posts but man it's amazing how much folks can discuss but working under false premises.Nevertopia wrote:Cordel One wrote:Marx: The capitalist version of colonialism is progress toward communism. Capitalism is bad, but we can make a post-capitalist society without exploitation.
You: Huh, he must be saying colonialism is good, actually, because it fulfills his political objections.
Yes because he wants it to prove communism can work. Don't you realize thats what hes talking about when colonialism is progress toward communism?
by Kubra » Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:32 am
wait a git dang momentUniversalCommons wrote:Many see government as antithetical to their interest. They will get higher taxes and interference in their life. They are not on social services or the dole and increasing welfare won't help them. They want better services and the ability to easily create new business for them. Their future is not a college education, but owning a bakery, being a tradesman, or serving in the army.
by Honeydewistania » Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:32 am
Alger wrote:if you have egoquotes in your signature, touch grass
by Duvniask » Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:51 am
Kubra wrote:wait a git dang momentUniversalCommons wrote:Many see government as antithetical to their interest. They will get higher taxes and interference in their life. They are not on social services or the dole and increasing welfare won't help them. They want better services and the ability to easily create new business for them. Their future is not a college education, but owning a bakery, being a tradesman, or serving in the army.
by Estanglia » Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:53 am
-Ra- wrote:The biggest argument against socialism is probably that socialist policies are detested most vehemently by the working class themselves. UK working people swung heavily in favour of the Tories this past election. 30% more of America’s white working class voted for Trump than did Hillary. By my experience the majority of avowed socialists these days are people who come from upper middle class families.
Torrocca wrote:"Your honor, it was not mein fault! I didn't order the systematic genocide of millions of people, it was the twenty kilograms of pure-cut Bavarian cocaine that did it!"
by Vassenor » Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:06 am
Estanglia wrote:-Ra- wrote:The biggest argument against socialism is probably that socialist policies are detested most vehemently by the working class themselves. UK working people swung heavily in favour of the Tories this past election. 30% more of America’s white working class voted for Trump than did Hillary. By my experience the majority of avowed socialists these days are people who come from upper middle class families.
That doesn't necessarily say that working-class Brits are moving away from socialism, since the Conservatives have a broader platform than just "capitalism good, socialism bad", and more reasons to vote for them than just "socialism sucks".
Plus, I haven't checked out the Labour/Libdem/Green/SNP manifestos any time recently, but I'm fairly certain their platforms aren't just "socialism good, capitalism bad" (if any of them are even pro-socialism in the first place).
by Picairn » Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:51 am
The New California Republic wrote:It's turning into that by default yes, likely much to the chagrin of the OP themselves given their position...
by UniversalCommons » Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:40 am
Jabberwocky wrote:trump is a socialist, but he subsidizes corporations rather than people.
by Honeydewistania » Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:48 am
Alger wrote:if you have egoquotes in your signature, touch grass
by Aureumterra III » Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:49 am
by Aureumterra III » Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:52 am
UniversalCommons wrote:Jabberwocky wrote:trump is a socialist, but he subsidizes corporations rather than people.
But corporations are people according to the new laws in the United States. You could even have an AI as the main way of running a corporation and it could be argued that the corporation was a person.
https://www.311institute.com/no-humans- ... dge-funds/
This will start happening. Corporations being people is one of the reasons Trump was elected. There could be a new corporatist agenda when this legislation passed.
https://www.history.com/news/14th-amend ... nto-people
by Ayanka » Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:54 am
Jabberwocky wrote:trump is a socialist, but he subsidizes corporations rather than people.
by UniversalCommons » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:26 am
Aureumterra III wrote:UniversalCommons wrote:
But corporations are people according to the new laws in the United States. You could even have an AI as the main way of running a corporation and it could be argued that the corporation was a person.
https://www.311institute.com/no-humans- ... dge-funds/
This will start happening. Corporations being people is one of the reasons Trump was elected. There could be a new corporatist agenda when this legislation passed.
https://www.history.com/news/14th-amend ... nto-people
Do you know what corporatism is? Because it’s probably not what you think (government controlled by corporations), that would be a plutocracy
by Aureumterra III » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:27 am
by Stylan » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:33 am
by Sanghyeok » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:35 am
Stylan wrote:Big corporations, including "woke brands," fund gerrymandering efforts by Republicans.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... 0-election
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister
by Aureumterra III » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:36 am
Stylan wrote:—Snip—
by Picairn » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:39 am
Stylan wrote:Anyways, no one smart or serious supports capitalism, so. But take a look at the five billion sources if you want, tho I doubt it'd change your mind, doesn't matter though since communism is natural and the end of capitalism is coming very soon.
by Aureumterra III » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:42 am
Picairn wrote:Stylan wrote:Anyways, no one smart or serious supports capitalism, so. But take a look at the five billion sources if you want, tho I doubt it'd change your mind, doesn't matter though since communism is natural and the end of capitalism is coming very soon.
I hope you did not copy and paste all that wall of text from r/communism on Reddit, like last time we met.
by Wink Wonk We Like Stonks » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:47 am
Sanghyeok wrote:Stylan wrote:Big corporations, including "woke brands," fund gerrymandering efforts by Republicans.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... 0-election
This one is the most disgusting. People think that a company can be "good" all of a sudden after waving a rainbow flag, when they're responsible for years of oppression for those groups.
according to legend, i once wrote:agender mars-colony automated decadent libertarian anti-statist degrowth
by Picairn » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:48 am
Aureumterra III wrote:Ohhh that sub
The one that said the Belarus protestors were crisis actors paid by the CIA controlled by NATO and the Jews?
by Sanghyeok » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:51 am
Wink Wonk We Like Stonks wrote:Sanghyeok wrote:
This one is the most disgusting. People think that a company can be "good" all of a sudden after waving a rainbow flag, when they're responsible for years of oppression for those groups.
it's all fun and games until june ends and corporations forget to pretend to care about minorities.
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister
by Resilient Acceleration » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:08 am
Sanghyeok wrote:Stylan wrote:Big corporations, including "woke brands," fund gerrymandering efforts by Republicans.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... 0-election
This one is the most disgusting. People think that a company can be "good" all of a sudden after waving a rainbow flag, when they're responsible for years of oppression for those groups.
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