by Sanghyeok » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:19 am
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister
by Sanghyeok » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:22 am
Ifreann wrote:Killing people is bad and to be avoided wherever possible.
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister
by North American Environmental Alliance » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:23 am
by Ifreann » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:27 am
by Sanghyeok » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:28 am
Ifreann wrote:Sanghyeok wrote:
So you would say that you support the first option?
Bingo. If someone is actively in the process of harming others, then killing them may well be the only reasonable course of action. But if we have someone in restraints or in custody and under guard, why would we need to kill them?
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister
by Necroghastia » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:29 am
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by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:32 am
by Ifreann » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:33 am
Sanghyeok wrote:Ifreann wrote:Bingo. If someone is actively in the process of harming others, then killing them may well be the only reasonable course of action. But if we have someone in restraints or in custody and under guard, why would we need to kill them?
Would this apply to war criminals as well, or would you argue for a separate category for them?
by Ethel mermania » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:34 am
by Sanghyeok » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:35 am
Ifreann wrote:Sanghyeok wrote:
Would this apply to war criminals as well, or would you argue for a separate category for them?
This would apply to everyone. If someone is doing a war crime right in front of you and the best realistic way of stopping them is shooting them, then shoot them until the war crimes stop. But if we've already got them in the Hague then there's no need to shoot anyone.
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister
by Senkaku » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:36 am
by Sanghyeok » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:39 am
Senkaku wrote:Generally I don't think the state should be killing people and should hold itself to a higher standard than the criminals it's punishing, but I'd say there's an exception when it comes to "self-defense" on a state or inter-state level- i.e. major traitors in wartime, war criminals, genocidaires, etc., people who threaten the survival of the state or even arguably of the species, have to be killed.
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister
by Nuroblav » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:40 am
Ifreann wrote:Killing people is bad and to be avoided wherever possible.
by Punished UMN » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:42 am
by Dumb Ideologies » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:44 am
by Andsed » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:45 am
by Sanghyeok » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:47 am
Nuroblav wrote:I'm not saying that you have to have a state to have the death penalty, but I think you can see the point I'm making.
どんな時も、赤旗の眩しさを覚えていた
Magical socialist paradise headed by an immortal, tea-loving and sometimes childish Chairwoman who happens to be the younger Ōmiya sister
by Punished UMN » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:50 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Option 3. There are some crimes where genuine rehabilitation is very unlikely, nothing nearing effective restorative justice can be realistically achieved, and society would not accept that person back unless you go out of your way to create for them a false history to trick people into doing so. In the long run we can work towards minimising usage of prisons for more minor crimes, but the "alternative" to prison for the more abhorrent criminals should in such a case be a much simpler one.
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by Necroghastia » Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:11 am
Bala Mantre wrote:In America we have the 1st highest prison population and also the 1st highest crime rate according to the CIA handbook.
I believe that the death penalty can be used for any criminal
because it helps leviate people away from such crimes in the first place.
by State of Turelisa » Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:11 am
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