Given previous posts and the subject, this seems fishy, at least.
by West Leas Oros 2 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:21 pm
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by New Visayan Islands » Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:02 pm
by West Leas Oros 2 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:38 pm
Cekoviu wrote:sure, but those general trends do help the argument that men are on average more influenced to do harm by emotions than womyn (plus these trends seem to occur in every culture, so it's clearly something specific to males and not solely due to culture). if we lack full matriarchy, we should at least more carefully vet men than women and that'd of course end up skewing the ratios a bit.
Cekoviu wrote:and yet men are far more likely to make reckless decisions and be violent criminals, fascinating
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by New Visayan Islands » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:42 pm
by Santheres » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:51 pm
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:On the subject, idk about you, but I would put this as maybe "a bit sus"Cekoviu wrote:sure, but those general trends do help the argument that men are on average more influenced to do harm by emotions than womyn (plus these trends seem to occur in every culture, so it's clearly something specific to males and not solely due to culture). if we lack full matriarchy, we should at least more carefully vet men than women and that'd of course end up skewing the ratios a bit.
There are similar posts but idk. It's probably nothing, but as I said, bit fishy.
This one actually strikes me a little more dubious.Cekoviu wrote:and yet men are far more likely to make reckless decisions and be violent criminals, fascinating
by West Leas Oros 2 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:52 pm
Santheres wrote:West Leas Oros 2 wrote:On the subject, idk about you, but I would put this as maybe "a bit sus"
There are similar posts but idk. It's probably nothing, but as I said, bit fishy.
This one actually strikes me a little more dubious.
The first one is weird but still a statement that you can argue against and I don't believe it is intended as trolling.
The second one is an argument often made but with women and/or ethnic groups as the target rather than men. I don't believe those have been considered actionable in the past, and I agree. While Cekoviu could stand to support their statements more (which I believe NVI has loomed on already), it would take no more than to notice that the insurance industry agrees with that assessment to make it just a standard argument making use of studies (however flimsy those studies may be).
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by West Leas Oros 2 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:07 pm
Cekoviu wrote:at the moment i'm not even arguing there is systemic sexism (although there is, but that's beside the point). in fact, i'm saying we should have systemic sexism, it should just be discriminating against men rather than women. sooo uh there you have it
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by Cekoviu » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:09 pm
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Ok, I'm pretty certain this ain't cool.Cekoviu wrote:at the moment i'm not even arguing there is systemic sexism (although there is, but that's beside the point). in fact, i'm saying we should have systemic sexism, it should just be discriminating against men rather than women. sooo uh there you have it
by West Leas Oros 2 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:14 pm
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by Cekoviu » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:01 am
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:And considering your actions in the past, you are without a doubt acting bad faith. You've pulled this bullshit before.
by West Leas Oros 2 » Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:21 pm
Cekoviu wrote:i happen to consider male sex to be a large demerit in fact, so that is consistent.
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by West Leas Oros 2 » Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:56 pm
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by Cekoviu » Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:12 pm
by West Leas Oros 2 » Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:20 pm
Cekoviu wrote:West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Rules is rules, and I intend to report this. Last I checked, rules violations don’t have a statute of limitations, at least not one that short.
no i understand that, but you said "considering your actions in the past" and "you've pulled this bullshit before" and i assumed you were referring to something that occurred in the actual past, so i was wondering what that was. sounds like you're not referring to anything from before like 2 days ago in that one thread, though?
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by West Leas Oros 2 » Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:27 pm
Giovenith wrote:Cekoviu wrote:Take a good look, ladies -- this is why we should hate men!
*** Warned for Trolling ***
This isn't Tumblr. You don't get an eye blind turned towards your bashing entire groups of people just because they're the "right group to bash." And this?Cekoviu wrote:Thanks and yes
Also not good.
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by Cekoviu » Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:32 pm
by West Leas Oros 2 » Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:33 pm
Cekoviu wrote:West Leas Oros 2 wrote:1. Ah yes, the well known hive mind, men. I too, wake up every morning and telepathically link with the hive and ask, “how can I oppress women today?”.
2. Not the male population apparently. Apparently men being jerks is a good enough reason to call for their subjugation. But if you take issue with someone advocating subjugation of a group you’re a part of based on their past experiences with them, congratulations, you’re a hypocrite.
3. Regardless of whether you’re a good person, you still are ideologically poisoned. Nobody who isn’t ideologically poisoned would spew the hateful rhetoric you have with sincerity.
1. yeah, given my observations i would not be surprised if that were the case
2. oh yes it's definitely just that men are jerks and not that i have an extensive array of negative experiences with men going beyond them being dicks, such as observing senseless public male-on-male violence, being the target of men's sexual harassment, watching my parents' marriage fall apart because of my father's sex addiction and his inability to communicate induced by deeply-rooted toxic masculinity, etc. but no yeah my reasoning is definitely that simplistic and reductive; i am a woman after all, just so irrational & quick to rush to conclusions! x
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by West Leas Oros 2 » Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:34 pm
Cekoviu wrote:West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Care to explain?
what's there to explain here? i jokingly said something exaggerating my views in a way that was overly inflammatory and left little room for argument, and i got smacked for it. it's not as though that means i'm operating in bad faith in this completely separate interaction, since i'm currently making real arguable points & saying what i truly believe rather than shitposting.
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by West Leas Oros 2 » Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:40 pm
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by Santheres » Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:33 pm
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Cekoviu wrote:1. yeah, given my observations i would not be surprised if that were the case
2. oh yes it's definitely just that men are jerks and not that i have an extensive array of negative experiences with men going beyond them being dicks, such as observing senseless public male-on-male violence, being the target of men's sexual harassment, watching my parents' marriage fall apart because of my father's sex addiction and his inability to communicate induced by deeply-rooted toxic masculinity, etc. but no yeah my reasoning is definitely that simplistic and reductive; i am a woman after all, just so irrational & quick to rush to conclusions! x
All x are y.
Cekoviu wrote:West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Care to explain?
what's there to explain here? i jokingly said something exaggerating my views in a way that was overly inflammatory and left little room for argument, and i got smacked for it. it's not as though that means i'm operating in bad faith in this completely separate interaction, since i'm currently making real arguable points & saying what i truly believe rather than shitposting.
by West Leas Oros 2 » Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:41 pm
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by Santheres » Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:48 pm
by West Leas Oros 2 » Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:59 pm
Santheres wrote:You are, of course, welcome to your own beliefs on that. On top of "well, the reverse is said all the time and generally allowed" which obviously you would disagree with making it okay, I might also recommend you refresh yourself on the differences between punching up and punching down.
Giovenith wrote:
You don't get an eye blind turned towards your bashing entire groups of people just because they're the "right group to bash."
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