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by Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:58 pm
by Cannot think of a name » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:00 pm
A new Marquette University Law School poll paints the landscape well. Nationally, it finds that 59% of Biden voters say that appointing the next Supreme Court justice is very important to their vote. Compare that with only 51% of Trump voters.
This finding matches what we saw in a CNN/SSRS poll last month. In that poll, 78% of Biden backers told pollsters that nominating the next justice was extremely or very important to their vote. That compared with 64% of Trump supporters. (It was 47% Biden supporters and 32% Trump supporters who said it was extremely important.)
Compare these numbers to what we saw heading into the 2016 election. The final CNN/ORC poll in that cycle showed that 58% of Trump supporters said that nominating the next Supreme Court justice was extremely important to their vote, while only 46% of Hillary Clinton voters said the same. In the 2016 exit poll, Trump beat Clinton by a 15 point margin among those who put Supreme Court appointments as the most important factor to their vote.
In other words, it seems, at least initially, that unlike in 2016, a Supreme Court nominating fight could be more of a motivating factor for Democrats than Republicans.
Top Senate Republicans are privately arguing that it would boost their chances of holding the majority in November if their party makes a full-throated effort at confirming President Donald Trump's pick for the Supreme Court, according to multiple GOP sources, despite their past posture that such nominees should not be confirmed in a presidential election year.
Behind the scenes, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is calculating whether he has the votes to quickly confirm Trump's eventual nominee to the Supreme Court, focusing in large part on the party's most vulnerable Republicans facing voters in less than two months. The Kentucky Republican could only lose three senators of his 53-47 majority and still confirm the pick with a tie-breaking vote from Vice President Mike Pence.
The argument, according to Senate GOP sources, is that getting behind Trump's pick will energize the Republican base and woo conservative-leaning voters who are uncertain about backing Trump and the GOP this fall. Opposing the nominee, they argue, will only cause a backlash from their party's supporters and might not be enough to win over Democratic voters who are already inclined to back their opponents.
by San Lumen » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:01 pm
Post War America wrote:San Lumen wrote:If there was no judicial review just about every landmark case from Brown to Ogberfell would not have happened
Dredd Scott also would not have happened. Korematsu wouldn't have happened. And while I don't particularly care, you might be surprised to find out DC v Heller wouldn't have happened either. That a small cluster of people get to have a lifetime access to determining the fate of the country sometimes helps you doesn't make it a good idea.
by Cannot think of a name » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:02 pm
Post War America wrote:Cannot think of a name wrote:Ah, well. With no check on the two branches, I’m sure all your problems will be solved.
This is starting to sound like a job for another thread. So much so I’m not even going to pivot within it. I’m just going to leave this festering pile of a bad idea badly thought out just sitting here, stinking up the room and make a new, on topic post.
Imagine thinking SCOTUS meaningfully checks the legislature and the executive.
by Post War America » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:04 pm
San Lumen wrote:Post War America wrote:
Dredd Scott also would not have happened. Korematsu wouldn't have happened. And while I don't particularly care, you might be surprised to find out DC v Heller wouldn't have happened either. That a small cluster of people get to have a lifetime access to determining the fate of the country sometimes helps you doesn't make it a good idea.
Dred Scott was overturned by the 13th, 14 and 15th amendment.
without judicial review schools would still be segregated, interracial marriage and same sex marriage would be illegal and one could be fired for being gay just to name a few but you have no problem with that?
by Greater Miami Shores » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:04 pm
by Heloin » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:05 pm
Saint Sche Batose wrote:Heloin wrote:Make politicians and rich people use the public transit and the public transit will be good. Then maybe people will stop building so many useless fucking parking lots.
That's a new complaint. Parking lots. I'll send it up to Inslee and see how he likes it. After all, he's a Democrat.
by San Lumen » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:05 pm
Post War America wrote:San Lumen wrote:Dred Scott was overturned by the 13th, 14 and 15th amendment.
without judicial review schools would still be segregated, interracial marriage and same sex marriage would be illegal and one could be fired for being gay just to name a few but you have no problem with that?
I have a problem with giving on a publicly unaccountable body of people that much power.Cannot think of a name wrote:Imagine thinking that was my point.
Your rejection of the idea was based on it leaving the legislature and executive unchecked but okay.
by Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:06 pm
by The Black Forrest » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:06 pm
Saint Sche Batose wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:
Source?
Actually “fake news” is a conservative epitaph. If you have evidence of libs using it; by all means!
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-39592010
by The Black Forrest » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:07 pm
by Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:07 pm
by Cannot think of a name » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:07 pm
by Washington Resistance Army » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:08 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:Or, is it the congressional rally cry that McConnell was waiting for:Top Senate Republicans are privately arguing that it would boost their chances of holding the majority in November if their party makes a full-throated effort at confirming President Donald Trump's pick for the Supreme Court, according to multiple GOP sources, despite their past posture that such nominees should not be confirmed in a presidential election year.
Behind the scenes, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is calculating whether he has the votes to quickly confirm Trump's eventual nominee to the Supreme Court, focusing in large part on the party's most vulnerable Republicans facing voters in less than two months. The Kentucky Republican could only lose three senators of his 53-47 majority and still confirm the pick with a tie-breaking vote from Vice President Mike Pence.
The argument, according to Senate GOP sources, is that getting behind Trump's pick will energize the Republican base and woo conservative-leaning voters who are uncertain about backing Trump and the GOP this fall. Opposing the nominee, they argue, will only cause a backlash from their party's supporters and might not be enough to win over Democratic voters who are already inclined to back their opponents.
by Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:08 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:
Holy fuck, look at you, making a relevant and current post in the election thread that isn’t some sort of chest beating throwing leaves over your head yay team post. Good for you. I know that sounds sarcastic but it’s not. More this, less that.
Few notes, though. First, link to the poll. You don’t have to give the score of the pollsters like some do but it’s nice. Also, when available, try and tie it into some sort of progression, is it getting better or worse for whoever, are you pitching this as a tipping point? Etc,.
You can do it, I believe in you.
by The Black Forrest » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:08 pm
by Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:09 pm
by The Black Forrest » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:10 pm
Saint Sche Batose wrote:Cannot think of a name wrote:Holy fuck, look at you, making a relevant and current post in the election thread that isn’t some sort of chest beating throwing leaves over your head yay team post. Good for you. I know that sounds sarcastic but it’s not. More this, less that.
Few notes, though. First, link to the poll. You don’t have to give the score of the pollsters like some do but it’s nice. Also, when available, try and tie it into some sort of progression, is it getting better or worse for whoever, are you pitching this as a tipping point? Etc,.
You can do it, I believe in you.
That sounded very sarcastic.
by Post War America » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:10 pm
San Lumen wrote:Post War America wrote:
I have a problem with giving on a publicly unaccountable body of people that much power.
Your rejection of the idea was based on it leaving the legislature and executive unchecked but okay.
So your opposed to all those decisions and would rather it be left up to the states? Nice to know you have no problem with segregated schools, bans on interracial marriage and same sex marriage and firing someone for being gay.
by Heloin » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:10 pm
Saint Sche Batose wrote:Cannot think of a name wrote:Holy fuck, look at you, making a relevant and current post in the election thread that isn’t some sort of chest beating throwing leaves over your head yay team post. Good for you. I know that sounds sarcastic but it’s not. More this, less that.
Few notes, though. First, link to the poll. You don’t have to give the score of the pollsters like some do but it’s nice. Also, when available, try and tie it into some sort of progression, is it getting better or worse for whoever, are you pitching this as a tipping point? Etc,.
You can do it, I believe in you.
That sounded very sarcastic.
by Saint Sche Batose » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:10 pm
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