2020 US General Election Thread VIII: Cs, Ds, and Es

[Heloin]

Removed all the nonsense and there's some good stuff here.

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Hmmm. I am ok with Zoos. They just need to be designed with the animal in mind.
Cannabis: Yes.
No Judiciary? As in court duty? It’s only so many times in your life time. I nearly sat on one trial. Other then that its annoying but a small price.
Metrics? I can see it. I was the part of the generation which tried it. There was no plan and it was basically “here is the metric system...Go!
UHC/Climate/Space: Yes

I've been called to jury duty twice and have only been a citizen for 5 years. Can't say I'm a fan.

[Shrillland]

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Hmmm. I am ok with Zoos. They just need to be designed with the animal in mind.
Cannabis: Yes.
No Judiciary? As in court duty? It’s only so many times in your life time. I nearly sat on one trial. Other then that its annoying but a small price.
Metrics? I can see it. I was the part of the generation which tried it. There was no plan and it was basically “here is the metric system...Go!
UHC/Climate/Space: Yes

You did read the sentence at the top, right?

Yes, but that doesn't mean there aren't ideas worth considering.

[Saint Sche Batose]

You really think I meant all that?

No, but I got rid of the nonsense and what I left ended up with is actually good stuff.

You know, if a country was built on all of those policies, they would be the exact opposite of thriving.

[Heloin]

No, but I got rid of the nonsense and what I left ended up with is actually good stuff.

You know, if a country was built on those policies, they would be the exact opposite of thriving.

I don't know how the opposite of thriving is thriving but your the metaphor man grasshopper. Do your magic and make this gravy train work!

[The Black Forrest]

Wow, really. You just saved the world with that very obvious post. Thank you for the info that I have already learned. I'll stick it in my back pocket for later use.

I don't get why you seem annoyed but right on. I told you something and you screamed liberal, not my problem.

Removed all the nonsense and there's some good stuff here.

The No Cars one is pretty good but that only comes with the caveat of more trains, boats, and busses.

That is the problem. We do it backwards. Being free market we say if enough people use it; we will make it convenient.

[Kannap]

News flash: America is nowhere close to being a true democracy. Nonetheless, you're regularly against making it closer to a true democracy (recall elections, electing judges)



There's nothing remotely democratic about nine people who are appointed for life being able to decide what's what in this country based on their interpretations of the Constitution.

How much hate do you get for being Independent?

Enough

[Post War America]

SCOTUS isn't?

If your fix doesn’t change anything but the qualifications, why are we considering it? You can’t just restate the problem, defend your solution.

The primary way of dealing with the problems with SCOTUS as I see them, while also preserving the concept of constitutional review, which I ultimately disagree with, would be to ensure that appointments wouldn't be lifelong, that the process would be at least somewhat more accessible to the people (seen as this council should not be directly appointed by POTUS and confirmed by the Senate). This again presumes that I see constitutional review as worth preserving.

[Saint Sche Batose]

You know, if a country was built on those policies, they would be the exact opposite of thriving.

I don't know how the opposite of thriving is thriving but your the metaphor man grasshopper. Do your magic and make this gravy train work!

I said they would be the exact opposite of thriving, indicating that the country WOULDN'T be thriving.

[Saint Sche Batose]

How much hate do you get for being Independent?

Enough

Damn, that's fucking stupid.

[Shrillland]

Yes, it will be the Republicans turn to pack the court, and then the voters will realise what a mess this all is and demand a constitutional amendment for structural court reform that both sides will readily agree to to deny given the other too much power including hard limits on how many justices there are, term limits, and mandatory retirement ages.

It could be the other way around, remember everything works both ways in politics, this is a Fact and I am not lying.

Maybe, but you have to keep in mind that for all the grandstanding and apparent mutual loathing, there are things the voting public can agree on. Putting an end to political games by setting hard rules for the membership of SCOTUS is one thing, but they have to see the problem exists first.

[Heloin]

I don't get why you seem annoyed but right on. I told you something and you screamed liberal, not my problem.


The No Cars one is pretty good but that only comes with the caveat of more trains, boats, and busses.

That is the problem. We do it backwards. Being free market we say if enough people use it; we will make it convenient.

Make politicians and rich people use the public transit and the public transit will be good. Then maybe people will stop building so many useless fucking parking lots.

[Post War America]

l

Hmmm. I am ok with Zoos. They just need to be designed with the animal in mind.
Cannabis: Yes.
No Judiciary? As in court duty? It’s only so many times in your life time. I nearly sat on one trial. Other then that its annoying but a small price.
Metrics? I can see it. I was the part of the generation which tried it. There was no plan and it was basically “here is the metric system...Go!
UHC/Climate/Space: Yes

I've been called to jury duty twice and have only been a citizen for 5 years. Can't say I'm a fan.

Protip: Join a third party, and educate yourself about jury nullification. I've only been called once, and they've never bothered me again.

[Saint Sche Batose]

That is the problem. We do it backwards. Being free market we say if enough people use it; we will make it convenient.

Make politicians and rich people use the public transit and the public transit will be good. Then maybe people will stop building so many useless fucking parking lots.

That's a new complaint. Parking lots. I'll send it up to Inslee and see how he likes it. After all, he's a Democrat.

[Cannot think of a name]

If your fix doesn’t change anything but the qualifications, why are we considering it? You can’t just restate the problem, defend your solution.

The primary way of dealing with the problems with SCOTUS as I see them, while also preserving the concept of constitutional review, which I ultimately disagree with, would be to ensure that appointments wouldn't be lifelong, that the process would be at least somewhat more accessible to the people (seen as this council should not be directly appointed by POTUS and confirmed by the Senate). This again presumes that I see constitutional review as worth preserving.

Ah, well. With no check on the two branches, I’m sure all your problems will be solved.

This is starting to sound like a job for another thread. So much so I’m not even going to pivot within it. I’m just going to leave this festering pile of a bad idea badly thought out just sitting here, stinking up the room and make a new, on topic post.

[Shrillland]

I've been called to jury duty twice and have only been a citizen for 5 years. Can't say I'm a fan.

Protip: Join a third party, and educate yourself about jury nullification. I've only been called once, and they've never bothered me again.

I was called once myself, but I managed to evade it by taking care of an invalid status...because I have autism and am therefore considered a legal invalid.

[Post War America]

Make politicians and rich people use the public transit and the public transit will be good. Then maybe people will stop building so many useless fucking parking lots.

That's a new complaint. Parking lots. I'll send it up to Inslee and see how he likes it. After all, he's a Democrat.

Imagine thinking Democrats are concerned about parking lots.

[Heloin]

I don't know how the opposite of thriving is thriving but your the metaphor man grasshopper. Do your magic and make this gravy train work!

I said they would be the exact opposite of thriving, indicating that the country WOULDN'T be thriving.

I'm not here to play tricks, good policies are good policies. If you think those polices would lead to a bad country then I worry what you think a good country looks like.

[Shrillland]

The primary way of dealing with the problems with SCOTUS as I see them, while also preserving the concept of constitutional review, which I ultimately disagree with, would be to ensure that appointments wouldn't be lifelong, that the process would be at least somewhat more accessible to the people (seen as this council should not be directly appointed by POTUS and confirmed by the Senate). This again presumes that I see constitutional review as worth preserving.

Ah, well. With no check on the two branches, I’m sure all your problems will be solved.

This is starting to sound like a job for another thread. So much so I’m not even going to pivot within it. I’m just going to leave this festering pile of a bad idea badly thought out just sitting here, stinking up the room and make a new, on topic post.

I agree, especially with the appointment coming up this week.

[Kannap]

No, but I got rid of the nonsense and what I left ended up with is actually good stuff.

You know, if a country was built on all of those policies, they would be the exact opposite of thriving.

Hey, I doubt it.

[Saint Sche Batose]

Protip: Join a third party, and educate yourself about jury nullification. I've only been called once, and they've never bothered me again.

I was called once myself, but I managed to evade it by taking care of an invalid status...because I have autism and am therefore considered a legal invalid.

People with autism are straightforward with their opinions and facts. If I was to believe anyone in this world, it'd be the autism community.

[Greater Miami Shores]

But he won’t, and I agree with him because ensuring a conservative court would do much more to fight far left socialism and communism in the long term

Sounds like you want a court to fight ghosts and shadows.

No, we Republicans supporters of President Trump, have a different take on it, we want the courts to fight, far left socialism and communism, not ghosts and shadows

[Heloin]

I've been called to jury duty twice and have only been a citizen for 5 years. Can't say I'm a fan.

Protip: Join a third party, and educate yourself about jury nullification. I've only been called once, and they've never bothered me again.

I told them the first time I would never convict someone for a victimless crime no matter the circumstances. I wasn't selected then still called a year later.

[Post War America]

The primary way of dealing with the problems with SCOTUS as I see them, while also preserving the concept of constitutional review, which I ultimately disagree with, would be to ensure that appointments wouldn't be lifelong, that the process would be at least somewhat more accessible to the people (seen as this council should not be directly appointed by POTUS and confirmed by the Senate). This again presumes that I see constitutional review as worth preserving.

Ah, well. With no check on the two branches, I’m sure all your problems will be solved.

This is starting to sound like a job for another thread. So much so I’m not even going to pivot within it. I’m just going to leave this festering pile of a bad idea badly thought out just sitting here, stinking up the room and make a new, on topic post.

Imagine thinking SCOTUS meaningfully checks the legislature and the executive.

[Saint Sche Batose]

I said they would be the exact opposite of thriving, indicating that the country WOULDN'T be thriving.

I'm not here to play tricks, good policies are good policies. If you think those polices would lead to a bad country then I worry what you think a good country looks like.

I was talking about all the policies I listed, not just the "good" policies.

[The Black Forrest]

l

Hmmm. I am ok with Zoos. They just need to be designed with the animal in mind.
Cannabis: Yes.
No Judiciary? As in court duty? It’s only so many times in your life time. I nearly sat on one trial. Other then that its annoying but a small price.
Metrics? I can see it. I was the part of the generation which tried it. There was no plan and it was basically “here is the metric system...Go!
UHC/Climate/Space: Yes

I've been called to jury duty twice and have only been a citizen for 5 years. Can't say I'm a fan.

Oh it’s annoying. A tip. If you are called to the jury panel. They will do interviews. Basically; toss the jurists they don’t like. Best way to get tossed is to have “tells” which show you are a ponderer. You will ponder the evidence. They don’t like that. You are supposed to be swayed by statements, etc. I was seated and one of the first ones tossed. “I accuse.....”. The judge was funny as he read my expression of “Accuse me of what you SOB!”. The judge explained it was simply trial speak for you are excused.

A friend who is a lawyer explained I was probably stroking my chin. He noticed I sometimes do that when I am listening and pondering what is being said. He laughed and said we don’t like that as it shows you will evaluate the evidence.

Simply throwing a temper tantrum and going off on cops, for example, won’t get you tossed all the time. There was a guy who explained his son had a drug issue and cops blah blah blah. He was seated.

Now back from the tangent.