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"Survey finds lack of holocaust knowledge in american young"

Postby La Xinga » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:12 am

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Source 1: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... ults-study
Source 2: https://filmdaily.co/news/holocaust-myth
Source 3: https://www.voanews.com/usa/survey-find ... ung-adults
Source 4: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/act ... -knowledge
Source 5: https://www.joe.co.uk/news/10-of-young- ... ust-249427

Almost two-thirds of young American adults do not know that 6 million Jews were killed during the Holocaust, and more than one in 10 believe Jews caused the Holocaust, a new survey has found, revealing shocking levels of ignorance about the greatest crime of the 20th century.

According to the study of millennial and Gen Z adults aged between 18 and 39, almost half (48%) could not name a single concentration camp or ghetto established during the second world war.

Almost a quarter of respondents (23%) said they believed the Holocaust was a myth, or had been exaggerated, or they weren’t sure. One in eight (12%) said they had definitely not heard, or didn’t think they had heard, about the Holocaust.

More than half (56%) said they had seen Nazi symbols on their social media platforms and/or in their communities, and almost half (49%) had seen Holocaust denial or distortion posts on social media or elsewhere online.

“The results are both shocking and saddening, and they underscore why we must act now while Holocaust survivors are still with us to voice their stories,” said Gideon Taylor, president of the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany (Claims Conference) which commissioned the survey.

Taylor added: “We need to understand why we aren’t doing better in educating a younger generation about the Holocaust and the lessons of the past. This needs to serve as a wake-up call to us all, and as a road map of where government officials need to act.”

The survey, the first to drill down to state level in the US, ranks states according to a score based on three criteria: whether young people have definitely heard about the Holocaust; whether they can name one concentration camp, death camp or ghetto; and whether they know 6 million Jews were killed.

The top-scoring state was Wisconsin, where 42% of millennial and Gen Z adults met all three criteria, followed by Minnesota at 37% and Massachusetts at 35%. The lowest-scoring states were Florida at 20%, Mississippi at 18% and Arkansas at 17%.

Nationally, 63% of respondents did not know 6 million Jews were murdered during the Holocaust, and more than one in three (36%) thought 2 million or fewer had been killed.

Eleven per cent of respondents across the US believed that Jews had caused the Holocaust, with the proportion in New York state at 19%, followed by 16% in Louisiana, Tennessee and Montana, and 15% in Arizona, Connecticut, Georgia, Nevada and New Mexico.

Nationally, 44% of those questioned were able to identify Auschwitz-Birkenau, and only 3% were familiar with Bergen-Belsen. Six out of 10 respondents in Texas could not name a single concentration camp or ghetto.

However, almost two-thirds (64%) of American millennial and Gen Z adults believe Holocaust education should be compulsory in schools. Seven out of 10 said it was not acceptable for an individual to hold neo-Nazi views.

The Claims Conference, whose mission is “to provide a measure of justice for Jewish Holocaust victims”, set up a taskforce to oversee the survey. It included Holocaust survivors, historians and experts from Yad Vashem and the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.

Data was collected from 1,000 interviews nationwide and 200 interviews in each state with young adults aged 18 to 39 selected at random.


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You heard right.

Less than 100 years after the holocaust, it seems about a quarter of younger Americans either believe it was a myth or exaggerated. However, as the article says "almost two-thirds (64%) of American millennial and Gen Z adults believe Holocaust education should be compulsory in schools. Seven out of 10 said it was not acceptable for an individual to hold neo-Nazi views."

What is your opinion on this?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:17 am

Not shocking. I've interacted with more than a few younger Americans from all sides of the political spectrum who either believe the Holocaust simply didn't happen or is greatly exaggerated.

Not much we can do about it at this point imo. It's just another part of the long and awful downwards spiral.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:24 am

Ironically the commonly stated figure drastically downplays the total scale of atrocities as "the holocaust" only refers to the Jewish victims.

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:29 am

America sure does seem to be bad at teaching kids important stuff.
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Postby Catsfern » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:32 am

Thats just the american education system for you,.

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Postby -Astoria- » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:35 am

Not surprising, to be honest with you.
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Postby Geneviev » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:36 am

I know about the Holocaust and am young and American. Not all hope is lost, as long as you only credit the American education system for that fact.
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Postby La Xinga » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:36 am

-Astoria- wrote:Not surprising, to be honest with you.

I agree, but may I ask why you think so? :)

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Postby Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:38 am

Surprising considering every person in America that I've interacted with knows about the oft-quoted 6 million deaths statistic (which btw excludes non-Jewish victims-- thanks, America), and believe that it was real.

Exactly which part of America did this survey go to?
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We don't teach it in school is why.

When we get to WWII we talk about the war itself with off-hand mentions of genocide and what not by the Nazis. That's it. They rarely say anything more than "Jews", "genocide", and "death camps". They never go into any more detail than that.
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Postby La Xinga » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:39 am

Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire wrote:Surprising considering every person in America that I've interacted with knows about the oft-quoted 6 million deaths statistic (which btw excludes non-Jewish victims-- thanks, America), and believe that it was real.

Exactly which part of America did this survey go to?

What do you mean?
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Postby Kowani » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:39 am

Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire wrote:Surprising considering every person in America that I've interacted with knows about the oft-quoted 6 million deaths statistic (which btw excludes non-Jewish victims-- thanks, America), and believe that it was real.

Exactly which part of America did this survey go to?

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Postby The Emerald Legion » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:40 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:We don't teach it in school is why.

When we get to WWII we talk about the war itself with off-hand mentions of genocide and what not by the Nazis. That's it. They rarely say anything more than "Jews", "genocide", and "death camps". They never go into any more detail than that.


They went into fair detail in my school. Though I doubt they do nowadays.
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Postby Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:40 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:We don't teach it in school is why.

When we get to WWII we talk about the war itself with off-hand mentions of genocide and what not by the Nazis. That's it. They rarely say anything more than "Jews", "genocide", and "death camps". They never go into any more detail than that.

The worst part is that they don't even mention Japanese war crimes, which were equally as bad if not worse than some of the German ones.
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Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire wrote:Surprising considering every person in America that I've interacted with knows about the oft-quoted 6 million deaths statistic (which btw excludes non-Jewish victims-- thanks, America), and believe that it was real.

Exactly which part of America did this survey go to?

What do you mean?

What do I mean with what?
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Postby La Xinga » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:41 am

Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:We don't teach it in school is why.

When we get to WWII we talk about the war itself with off-hand mentions of genocide and what not by the Nazis. That's it. They rarely say anything more than "Jews", "genocide", and "death camps". They never go into any more detail than that.

The worst part is that they don't even mention Japanese war crimes, which were equally as bad if not worse than some of the German ones.
La xinga wrote:What do you mean?

What do I mean with what?

What part? You mean age? Gender? Place?
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Postby Kuraschia » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:43 am

how sad. yet again, this is Murica, so the results are probably different than in other countries (like per se Germany, where they actually educate their people about the holocaust). It's also strange how Neo-nazis support holocaust denial, even though they support it. What a strange world we live in. *sigh*

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Postby Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:43 am

La xinga wrote:
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire wrote:The worst part is that they don't even mention Japanese war crimes, which were equally as bad if not worse than some of the German ones.

What do I mean with what?

What part? You mean age? Gender? Place?

I specifically want to know the locations they surveyed.
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Postby La Xinga » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:45 am

Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire wrote:
La xinga wrote:What part? You mean age? Gender? Place?

I specifically want to know the locations they surveyed.

I have no idea, but I'm gonna assume cities, since nobody driving around the state to a couple thousand here and there. Although I'd assume the rural areas are much higher.
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Postby Hfhbsd » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:46 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:We don't teach it in school is why.

When we get to WWII we talk about the war itself with off-hand mentions of genocide and what not by the Nazis. That's it. They rarely say anything more than "Jews", "genocide", and "death camps". They never go into any more detail than that.

Being in school myself, I must agree with this.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:49 am

Well thats depressing. Also not surprising, and i doubt its not just in america.
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Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:We don't teach it in school is why.

When we get to WWII we talk about the war itself with off-hand mentions of genocide and what not by the Nazis. That's it. They rarely say anything more than "Jews", "genocide", and "death camps". They never go into any more detail than that.

The worst part is that they don't even mention Japanese war crimes, which were equally as bad if not worse than some of the German ones.
La xinga wrote:What do you mean?

What do I mean with what?


It's unnerving how the Americans know alot more about the Germans when Germany never directly attacked American territory or killed American soldiers, whereas it was Japan who invade the American territories of Hawaii and the Philippines.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:50 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Well thats depressing. Also not surprising, and i doubt its not just in america.


It's not. I've seen similar stats in European nations too.
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Postby Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:51 am

La xinga wrote:
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire wrote:I specifically want to know the locations they surveyed.

I have no idea, but I'm gonna assume cities, since nobody driving around the state to a couple thousand here and there. Although I'd assume the rural areas are much higher.

Oof.
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Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire wrote:The worst part is that they don't even mention Japanese war crimes, which were equally as bad if not worse than some of the German ones.

What do I mean with what?


It's unnerving how the Americans know alot more about the Germans when Germany never directly attacked American territory or killed American soldiers, whereas it was Japan who invade the American territories of Hawaii and the Philippines.

Yeah. Americans are seemingly only taught about Germany, while Japan's history of war crimes are seemingly covered up or glossed over.
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Postby Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:52 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Well thats depressing. Also not surprising, and i doubt its not just in america.


It's not. I've seen similar stats in European nations too.

Probably because of how far removed we are at this point from the Holocaust.

It doesn't help that the last generation of Holocaust survivors are beginning to die out.
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