by Shamhnan Insir » Thu Aug 13, 2020 9:35 am
Darwinish Brentsylvania wrote:Shamhnan Insir started this wonderful tranquility, ALL PRAISE THE SHEPHERD KING
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by Major-Tom » Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:29 am
by Shamhnan Insir » Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:31 am
-Ra- wrote:Knowing how hostile that corner of the world is, I'd say that this is a good sign. Good on Trump and Prince Al Nahyan for starting the process at least. I don't have much faith that it will go anywhere, given that both the Israeli and Arab governments are obstinate in their demands.
Darwinish Brentsylvania wrote:Shamhnan Insir started this wonderful tranquility, ALL PRAISE THE SHEPHERD KING
by North German Realm » Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:32 am
5 Nov, 2020
Die Morgenpost: "We will reconsider our relationship with Poland" Reichskanzler Lagenmauer says after Polish president protested North German ultimatum that made them restore reproductive freedom. | European Society votes not to persecute Hungary for atrocities committed against Serbs, "Giving a rogue state leave to commit genocide as it sees fit." North German delegate bemoans. | Negotiations still underway in Rome, delegates arguing over the extent of indemnities Turkey might be made to pay, lawful status of Turkish collaborators during occupation of Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Syria.
by Heloin » Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:34 am
Major-Tom wrote:I can kind of see the purpose of this deal, Israel is one of those countries that needs allies on the basis of it being kind of isolated politically from its' neighbors, though I would hope they can also use their newfound political sway to incentivize reforms in the UAE. I mean, if you think the Saudi government is bad, look at the UAE, it's just as bad a mess, just overshadowed by it's significantly louder, larger neighbor.
by West green Israel » Thu Aug 13, 2020 10:46 am
North German Realm wrote:Pretty good news. Not only does it sign that more Arab states are finally learning that no matter how much they whine and pout, Israel isn't just going to either lose a war to them or up and leave, it also might mean a regional coalition against the IR, which is always a good thing imo. With that in mind, I do wonder if this will work for or against Trump's popularity in the US.
by Salus Maior » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:06 am
by Kowani » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:07 am
by Cordel One » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:08 am
Salus Maior wrote:Does the crown prince of Abu Dhabi speak for Palestinians?
by North German Realm » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:09 am
5 Nov, 2020
Die Morgenpost: "We will reconsider our relationship with Poland" Reichskanzler Lagenmauer says after Polish president protested North German ultimatum that made them restore reproductive freedom. | European Society votes not to persecute Hungary for atrocities committed against Serbs, "Giving a rogue state leave to commit genocide as it sees fit." North German delegate bemoans. | Negotiations still underway in Rome, delegates arguing over the extent of indemnities Turkey might be made to pay, lawful status of Turkish collaborators during occupation of Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Syria.
by Novus America » Thu Aug 13, 2020 11:21 am
Salus Maior wrote:Does the crown prince of Abu Dhabi speak for Palestinians?
by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:41 pm
by Novus America » Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:45 pm
by Melkanaan » Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:50 pm
by Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:50 pm
by Novus America » Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:01 pm
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Saudi Arabia is more than willing to sell out the Palestinians, and the US is not an unbiased moderator. What's new?
by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:33 pm
America has it wherever there is oil. the hypocrisy of political IslamBorderlands of Rojava wrote:Saudi Arabia is more than willing to sell out the Palestinians, and the US is not an unbiased moderator. What's new?
by Aureumterra » Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:34 pm
by Aureumterra » Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:35 pm
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Saudi Arabia is more than willing to sell out the Palestinians, and the US is not an unbiased moderator. What's new?
by Salus Maior » Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:37 pm
by Novus America » Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:38 pm
by Salus Maior » Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:38 pm
Novus America wrote:Salus Maior wrote:Does the crown prince of Abu Dhabi speak for Palestinians?
No, but he does not have to. This is about UAE/Israeli recognitions. He simply has to decide what he wants to give Israel recognition.
It is not a final solution of the Palestinian issue at all, rather something like when Jordan and Egypt agreed to recognize Israel.
But it should improve stability. By recognizing Israel the UAE gets some leverage.
By refusing to recognize Israel’s right to exist, the other Arab states lose leverage over Israel, why would Israel care what someone who says it should be destroyed thinks?
This is a good thing. The more Arab countries that recognize Israel the more secure Israel feels, and less likely it is to act recklessly on the Palestinian and other issues.
by Novus America » Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:39 pm
Salus Maior wrote:Cordel One wrote:Absolutely not, royals are always so disconnected from the needs and opinions of the general population. only a Palestinian can speak for a Palestinian,
Not actually true, but I suppose I can't expect you to post anything other than parroting leftist talking points.
If the Palestinians gave the prince their consent to speak for them is what I'm asking, or whether Palestinians are just completely disenfranchised from this decision.
by Novus America » Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:42 pm
Salus Maior wrote:Novus America wrote:
No, but he does not have to. This is about UAE/Israeli recognitions. He simply has to decide what he wants to give Israel recognition.
It is not a final solution of the Palestinian issue at all, rather something like when Jordan and Egypt agreed to recognize Israel.
But it should improve stability. By recognizing Israel the UAE gets some leverage.
By refusing to recognize Israel’s right to exist, the other Arab states lose leverage over Israel, why would Israel care what someone who says it should be destroyed thinks?
This is a good thing. The more Arab countries that recognize Israel the more secure Israel feels, and less likely it is to act recklessly on the Palestinian and other issues.
Then I would suggest that the title is misleading.
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