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The New Ruski Empire wrote:Country/Political Group/Anarchic State(Full Name): Colonial Tsardom of Bulgaria
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Head of State/Leader: Tsar Boris III
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Location: Bulgaria,east Libiya
Government Type: Absolutism
Capital :Sofia:
National Debuffs (Pick Two or Three): Greek Rebels in Thrace, some liberals
GDP:45 mil
Population:5.5 mil(mainland), 400 000(colonies)
History: Bulgaria joined ww1 in 1915. It stayed on the central powers side and managed to take all Libiya territories that ottoman had before he fell in 1922. We have a stalemate with the Greeks(mainland) and the Italians(Libiya).
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OP here. This app needs a lot more work to be done on it, where to start.

I'd be willing to give you pretty much historic Greater Bulgaria, but having Libya of all places? I can't really buy into that much, Bulgaria wasn't really known for colonial ambitions into Africa, caring more for having dominance in the Balkans between the Ottomans and Austria-Hungarians iirc.

Absolutism is more of a concept alluding to Absolute Monarchism in this case, considering how you're modeling your Bulgaria off basically the Kingdom of Bulgaria OTL. It'll make more sense to classify the government as an Authoritarian Constitutional Monarchy. Honestly a pretty easy fix to clarify the government better.

Your National Debuffs as they currently stand have descriptions left too short and vague, your History needs a lot more expanding too and way more elaboration, I would focus your edit on these areas the most.
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Postby Plzen » Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:05 pm

Beutarch wrote:With Bavaria firmly under the Nazi jackboot and much of Baden-Wurttemberg rendered inhospitable by French bombs, costly detours had to be taken to deliver the refugees safely out of the country. Austria was a strong option.

If only there was, oh, a powerful merchant marine capable of ferrying people and cargo, held by a neutral and politically stable country, with a land border to Germany and some interest in meddling in German affairs.

But surely no such thing exists, right?

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Postby Monsone » Sat Aug 08, 2020 12:25 am

Okay, why did Scandinavia send volunteers to a Russian Majority province? Seems a bit strange and most certainly going to arouse the suspicions of the Moscow government.

Take note that Karelia and the Kola Peninsula are both majority Russian regions that would likely want to join Russia and not serve as Russian buffer states against Russia. Then again, it could prompt Russia to claim the Baltics because why not. If Scandinavia is going to take Russian land, Russia is going to take non-Russian land the Scandinavia wants.
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Postby Plzen » Sat Aug 08, 2020 12:33 am

East Karelia has an ethnic Russian majority, sure, but in the 1930s that’s mostly a function of the Russians dominating the heavily-populated White Sea coast. The inland countryside is still mostly Karelian-culture in this time period. There’s no reason any buffer republic needs to reach all the way to the coast. Not to mention, with Karelia not having been ruled from Moscow unlike IRL when the Soviets administered the region from the early 1920s, the number of Russians in the region would be significantly smaller than IRL - closer to the 50% it had in WWI than the 60% it had in WWII.

And frankly considering the current state of your internal affairs Russia is in no position to do anything against the Baltics. :p
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Postby Monsone » Sat Aug 08, 2020 12:54 am

Plzen wrote:East Karelia has an ethnic Russian majority, sure, but in the 1930s that’s mostly a function of the Russians dominating the heavily-populated White Sea coast. The inland countryside is still mostly Karelian-culture in this time period. There’s no reason any buffer republic needs to reach all the way to the coast. Not to mention, with Karelia not having been ruled from Moscow unlike IRL when the Soviets administered the region from the early 1920s, the number of Russians in the region would be significantly smaller than IRL - closer to the 50% it had in WWI than the 60% it had in WWII.

And frankly considering the current state of your internal affairs Russia is in no position to do anything against the Baltics. :p


So you wouldn't mind handing over the Karelian Isthmus as a buffer zone to Russia? Here is the deal, as long as Scandinavia doesn't intervene or mess with Russia, a status quo of neutrality will be kept. If you get involved in Russia, you can bet most Russians would put their political differences aside to push out a foreign invader (much like what happened in WW2 between the KMT and the PLA).

And while Russia isn't in the best of places, Scandinavia would still be at a numeric disadvantage in population, oil reserves, and to a lesser extent, natural resources. Sure Russia is a mess for the moment, but it's still got advantages Scandinavia lacks.
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Postby Dahyan » Sat Aug 08, 2020 5:04 am

I still can't get over reading Stalin and Kolchak in one and the same room governing together. I sure hope this is leading somewhere good soon.
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Postby Beutarch » Sat Aug 08, 2020 6:21 am

Plzen wrote:
Beutarch wrote:With Bavaria firmly under the Nazi jackboot and much of Baden-Wurttemberg rendered inhospitable by French bombs, costly detours had to be taken to deliver the refugees safely out of the country. Austria was a strong option.

If only there was, oh, a powerful merchant marine capable of ferrying people and cargo, held by a neutral and politically stable country, with a land border to Germany and some interest in meddling in German affairs.

But surely no such thing exists, right?

No, of course not..
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Postby The Felan Federation » Sat Aug 08, 2020 8:37 am

Monsone wrote:Let me make this clear, Russia is far from stable. Kronshtadt is the tip of the iceberg. There is going to be issues like pro-Soviet revolts and insurrections for at least the next year or two minimum. This is going to roughly coincide with most of Russia (save for some western lands) being annexed, and the beginning of a Russian Industrial Revolution. It will be a semi-chaotic time, but the Bolsheviks are well posed to benefit from it. At the moment they are the largest political party of Russia, and hold immense sway. They're likely to win elections no mater what. If anything, this unification might be a bigger grand strategy for the Bolsheviks.

Also, Stalin's switch is something that is going to be better explained relatively soon. But it's not a simple switch, it was a drawn out process. And where the Soviets really winning? Sure Nizhny Novgorod fell to them, but the USSR was impotent against the Confederation and other larger and more powerful nations. A mostly unified Russia however is a different story.

There is logic behind the madness. Stalin's machinations are complex, strange, confusing, and unpredictable. The future is still uncertain however.


Well...this kind of attitude is hard to imagine - considering that Stalin was a die-hard Bolshevik itself from the moment he joined Lenin. Heck, one may imagine Trotsky pulling something like this - if Trotsky wasn't a bigger ideologist than even Stalin.

Sure, the man himself was pragmatic in a sense - with how he planned out things with Hitler in OTL. But...that still doesn't erase the fact that the USSR have been spoon-fed the idea that Communist = good, Capitalism = bad. Or the row of Communist Party members whom would see this as a 'betrayal of the revolution' at a time were most of the die-hard revolutionaries should be still around.

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Postby Monsone » Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:12 am

The Felan Federation wrote:
Monsone wrote:Let me make this clear, Russia is far from stable. Kronshtadt is the tip of the iceberg. There is going to be issues like pro-Soviet revolts and insurrections for at least the next year or two minimum. This is going to roughly coincide with most of Russia (save for some western lands) being annexed, and the beginning of a Russian Industrial Revolution. It will be a semi-chaotic time, but the Bolsheviks are well posed to benefit from it. At the moment they are the largest political party of Russia, and hold immense sway. They're likely to win elections no mater what. If anything, this unification might be a bigger grand strategy for the Bolsheviks.

Also, Stalin's switch is something that is going to be better explained relatively soon. But it's not a simple switch, it was a drawn out process. And where the Soviets really winning? Sure Nizhny Novgorod fell to them, but the USSR was impotent against the Confederation and other larger and more powerful nations. A mostly unified Russia however is a different story.

There is logic behind the madness. Stalin's machinations are complex, strange, confusing, and unpredictable. The future is still uncertain however.


Well...this kind of attitude is hard to imagine - considering that Stalin was a die-hard Bolshevik itself from the moment he joined Lenin. Heck, one may imagine Trotsky pulling something like this - if Trotsky wasn't a bigger ideologist than even Stalin.

Sure, the man himself was pragmatic in a sense - with how he planned out things with Hitler in OTL. But...that still doesn't erase the fact that the USSR have been spoon-fed the idea that Communist = good, Capitalism = bad. Or the row of Communist Party members whom would see this as a 'betrayal of the revolution' at a time were most of the die-hard revolutionaries should be still around.


1) Stalin is still a Bolshevik. Being "democratic" hasn't made him any less Bolshevik. Sure his reforms are strange, but fundamentally Stalin is still a Bolshevik.

2) If you didn’t notice, there happens to be a rebellion in Kronshtadt, and the former NKVD head is planing a coup. There are definitely people who see this as a betrayal, they're either just not expressing those feelings yet, or are planning how to express those feelings. Also note that while the Soviet people where brainwashed to think communisim was good and capitalism was bad, there still was some degree of freedom and capitalism under the New Economic Plan. Sure Stalin squelched that quickly in the 1920s, but it still means a significant amount of Soviet citizens would have experienced capitalism under Soviet rule.

3) Despite Russia being "capitalist" now, there are still state owned companies, labor laws that benefit the laborer, wage laws that are designed to benefit the worker too, the Russia government still controls a fair ammount of the economy, and there is no stock market yet. Because of all this, the USSR isn't really all that capitalist, and is more of a socialist nation with a mixed economy (like Yugoslavia after WW2).
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Postby Wasi State » Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:19 am

Big Map update. If you have any questions on the changes lmk.
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Postby The Felan Federation » Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:29 am

Wasi State wrote:Big Map update. If you have any questions on the changes lmk.


Hmm.

Why is there some white tiles between east Germany and Prussia? I thought the Kaiser Loyalists controlled most of Prussia except the few Polish points close to the Confederation.

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Postby Wasi State » Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:32 am

The Felan Federation wrote:
Wasi State wrote:Big Map update. If you have any questions on the changes lmk.


Hmm.

Why is there some white tiles between east Germany and Prussia? I thought the Kaiser Loyalists controlled most of Prussia except the few Polish points close to the Confederation.

The ongoing Danzig Uprising makes that spot pretty ambiguous as to who controls it at the moment, it'll change hands officially as the Civil War progresses.
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Postby Monsone » Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:43 am

Wasi State wrote:Big Map update. If you have any questions on the changes lmk.

Looks like I need to reconqueror some stuff.
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Postby Beutarch » Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:16 am

Not planning on going to war quite yet, but I figured I'd put together an ORBAT anyhow. Might change the numbers somewhat later, but I wanted to post it now.
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Israeli Defense Forces
    Israeli Ground Forces
      Active:
      4th "Barak" Motorized Division (9,100)
      2nd "Golani" Rifle Division (7,500)
      3rd "Sinai" Rifle Division (7,500)

      Reserve:
      5th "Negev" Rifle Division (6,500)
      6th "Harel" Rifle Division (6,500)
      8th "Jerusalem" Mixed Division (6,500)
        100th "Kfir" Armored Brigade (1,100)
      Air:
      1st "Spearhead" Air Wing (20 fighters, 32 close air support, 900)
      2nd "Spark" Air Wing (10 bombers, 400)

    Israeli Navy (11 ships of 3,000)
      6 Patrol Boats
      3 Converted Merchant Cruisers
      2 Support Ships

Paramilitary Organizations
    Haganah (Fully integrated, <100)
    Irgun (Fully integrated, <100)
    Lehi (Partially integrated, estimated manpower of 5000)


British Forces Near East
    British Army
      7th Infantry Division (Loyal, 7,500)
      1st Cavalry Division (Supportive, 4,000)

      Suez Garrison (Loyal, 1,500)
      Cairo Garrison (Supportive, 1,500)
      Damascus Garrison (Supportive, 1,500)
      Cyprus Garrison (Wary, 1,500)

    Royal Navy
      Mediterranean Fleet (Disloyal, 53 ships of 10,000)
        3 Battle cruisers
        4 Cruisers
        10 Destroyers
        5 Frigates
        6 Corvettes
        10 Submarines
        2 Landing Ships
        13 Support Ships
      104th Royal Marines Brigade (Disloyal, 2,500)
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Postby Wasi State » Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:25 am

Beutarch wrote:-snip-

Very interesting, especially with the loyalty aspect, I'll add it to your roster in a bit.
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Postby Dahyan » Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:10 pm

Monsone wrote:
The Felan Federation wrote:
Well...this kind of attitude is hard to imagine - considering that Stalin was a die-hard Bolshevik itself from the moment he joined Lenin. Heck, one may imagine Trotsky pulling something like this - if Trotsky wasn't a bigger ideologist than even Stalin.

Sure, the man himself was pragmatic in a sense - with how he planned out things with Hitler in OTL. But...that still doesn't erase the fact that the USSR have been spoon-fed the idea that Communist = good, Capitalism = bad. Or the row of Communist Party members whom would see this as a 'betrayal of the revolution' at a time were most of the die-hard revolutionaries should be still around.


1) Stalin is still a Bolshevik. Being "democratic" hasn't made him any less Bolshevik. Sure his reforms are strange, but fundamentally Stalin is still a Bolshevik.

2) If you didn’t notice, there happens to be a rebellion in Kronshtadt, and the former NKVD head is planing a coup. There are definitely people who see this as a betrayal, they're either just not expressing those feelings yet, or are planning how to express those feelings. Also note that while the Soviet people where brainwashed to think communisim was good and capitalism was bad, there still was some degree of freedom and capitalism under the New Economic Plan. Sure Stalin squelched that quickly in the 1920s, but it still means a significant amount of Soviet citizens would have experienced capitalism under Soviet rule.

3) Despite Russia being "capitalist" now, there are still state owned companies, labor laws that benefit the laborer, wage laws that are designed to benefit the worker too, the Russia government still controls a fair ammount of the economy, and there is no stock market yet. Because of all this, the USSR isn't really all that capitalist, and is more of a socialist nation with a mixed economy (like Yugoslavia after WW2).


1) A Bolshevik who reinstalls capitalism is quite simply not a Bolshevik.

2) It took revisionists such as Gorbachev and his ilk several decades to gradually destroy the USSR and reinstall capitalism. You did that in a matter of hours. A handful of rebellions won't cut it. This is like Reagan waking up one day and deciding to install Socialism in the US all of a sudden.

3) "Mixed economy" is a smokescreen, and is still fundamentally capitalist. Any Bolshevik will a iota of notion of Marxism would see that immediately.
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Postby Union Princes » Sat Aug 08, 2020 5:24 pm


that does not look good, there's no way Huey can win over New York, Ohio, and Indiana being the center of left-wing politics.
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Postby Wasi State » Sat Aug 08, 2020 5:27 pm

Union Princes wrote:

that does not look good, there's no way Huey can win over New York, Ohio, and Indiana being the center of left-wing politics.

No certainly not, but he's definitely more likely to appeal to moderates and centrists than the leftist parties. If he plays his card right he could essentially offer his version of a new deal and get the R-D base on his side.
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Postby Union Princes » Sat Aug 08, 2020 5:30 pm

Wasi State wrote:No certainly not, but he's definitely more likely to appeal to moderates and centrists than the leftist parties. If he plays his card right he could essentially offer his version of a new deal and get the R-D base on his side.


But that's the thing, Huey is a Bull in China shop. His policies can appeal to moderates even the left-wing voter base but it is his own personality that's sabotaging his image. His loud and brash attitude is scaring the moderates.
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Union Princes wrote:
Wasi State wrote:No certainly not, but he's definitely more likely to appeal to moderates and centrists than the leftist parties. If he plays his card right he could essentially offer his version of a new deal and get the R-D base on his side.


But that's the thing, Huey is a Bull in China shop. His policies can appeal to moderates even the left-wing voter base but it is his own personality that's sabotaging his image. His loud and brash attitude is scaring the moderates.

Which lies the tricky part in this, in his case. Huey could still pull ahead though if he can appeal to voters across parties however, he still has time.
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Country/Political Group/Anarchic State(Full Name): The Sonoran Superstate
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Head of State/Leader: Timothy Grant
Location: Arizona, Baja California, Baja Sur, and the Mexican State of Sonora (claimed, but under anarchy).
Government Type: Totalitarian "Orwellian" One-Party Ultranationalist Dictatorship
Capital: Pheonix, Arizona
National Debuffs (Pick Two or Three): Drought: The nation is consistently under threats of drought, due to only inhabiting a desert-like scape. With a rapidly growing population, the central government consistently has to find new and improved ways to manage water usage, or the nation's agricultural future will come into question.

Sonoran Unification: The nation claims to stretch as far as the North American desert would allow. Its namesake desert, in the Mexican state of Sonora, is under complete and total anarchy. Border clashes between the military, party, and militia forces of TSS and local cartels/politically undesirable parties is constant and wears the border security of the nation down with each passing year. An invasion of Sonora, Sinaloa, and other strategic areas must happen immediately, or else the criminals will breach the nation and reduce even it to an anarchic wasteland.

Political Isolation: The extreme nature of the government and personality cult surrounding its leader has left a bad taste in most of its neighbors mouths, and has suffered a fate similar to that of North Korea. While the nation is somewhat resource rich, and the isolation only radicalizes the people more, this hostility only heightens the government's fear of food insecurity brought about by consistent droughts and warming summers.

GDP: 2.1 billion USD
Population: 1,000,000 (~500k arizona, ~200k baja, ~200k baja sur)
History: As the Union began to collapse, armed right-wing militias formed in the desert state of Arizona, dead set on protecting Arizonan sovereignty. The governor seceded from the union in 1933 to appease an armed insurgency from those militias, leaving a weak political vacuum in the region. This political void was taken advantage of by Timothy Grant, who rode off of the public's fears. During this time, there was a short lived Republic of Arizona with a respected leadership but weak economy and government. It was clear that this state was provisional and would not survive, so elections were held in 1934. Timothy Grant, who had promised glory and reparations, rose in the eyes of the people to a cult-like adoration. He appealed to both sides, with promises of both desegregation and militant glory. Timothy won in a landslide by the end of 1934.

The charismatic leader instantly took charge, disguising his political crackdown as "necessary centralization for the safety of the nation". Communists were executed en masse, political parties save for the "Guiding Light" Party under which Grant created were disbanded, and the nation's government became increasingly militant. While de-segregation did happen and healthcare as well as education became universal, they were merely a farce to appease antsy liberals into a sedated submission. A hyperpatriotic, nationalist state resulted from these actions, throwing the populace into an orwellian frenzy of state supremacy. The state became hierarchical, from the labor force to Party bureaucrats to the people who really ran the country. Life wasn't miserable, but it was redundant enough to where nobody questioned things. A secret police force had been organized, the government collected into simple ministries, and the last vestiges of freedom were slowly drained from the people's access.

Taking advantage of the rabid patriotism of the people, and the distraction of the US army with the Holy State of Deseret, the Arizonan Army declared complete allegiance to the new government. Once political shift happened, it was renamed into "The Sonoran Superstate", taking advantage of the landmarks of the host country. Shortly after the militarization of Arizona, The Sonoran Superstate sent an intimidating ultimatum to both governments of the Baja Peninsula. The governments accepted the ultimatum and joined TSS out of fear of warfare.

Now, the nation sets its hungry eyes on the pride of its name, Sonora. With an increasingly numbed population and rapid armament, conflict is soon to come.
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Postby Union Princes » Sat Aug 08, 2020 6:40 pm

that app kinda mucks up the electoral process. Bulter had just campaigned in California.
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Postby Spiritual Republic of Caryton » Sat Aug 08, 2020 6:43 pm

Union Princes wrote:that app kinda mucks up the electoral process. Bulter had just campaigned in California.


Granted, the disarray of the conflict can turn NorCal and Central Cal straight into Huey/Butler's arms.
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