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Of All The Parties With 50+ Electoral Votes of Ballot Access, Which Party Do You Prefer?

Republicans
73
23%
Democrats
111
35%
Libertarians
24
8%
Greens
59
19%
Constitution Party
12
4%
Alliance Party
4
1%
Socialism and Liberation
31
10%
 
Total votes : 314

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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:51 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I doubt Trump and his campaign has given up on Wisconsin, Michigan Pennsylvania, or any other states.


Oh, there are Trump SuperPACs spending in those States but it seems their focus currently right now is on Arizona, North Carolina, Florida, and Georgia; these are States that have some of the earliest voting. However, the Trump Campaign itself is not spending on any ads in Michigan or Pennsylvania right now, which is- odd given those are crucial States he needs again.

Although there are ads I have seen in Michigan about anti-Biden content (which only is funded by PACs like Restoration), I have never seen any pro-Trump ad paid for by the Trump campaign themselves. There have been plenty of Biden ads that are paid for by the Biden campaign.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:57 pm

Been seeing quite a few Spanish Trump ads here in Florida
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:00 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Been seeing quite a few Spanish Trump ads here in Florida


They're telling some older Cuban American voters to not forget everything that happened before 1991.

Some people legit think Cuba is gonna invade us. Cuba.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:08 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Been seeing quite a few Spanish Trump ads here in Florida


They're telling some older Cuban American voters to not forget everything that happened before 1991.

Some people legit think Cuba is gonna invade us. Cuba.

Cuba has been Cuba to one degree or another for over 60 years since the revolution, Cuba has not really changed. I still have family in Cuba and I follow Cuba news almost everyday, so I am very well informed on Cuba. But like I always say, I will never tell you I am right and you are wrong on any issues, like you all do to me, not even on Cuba my pet issue on NS for obvious reasons, as a native Cuban and American citizen, I will argue my posts and leave it there.

The US is not going to invade or naval blockade Cuba, until the regime falls from within and without, but I hope they do.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:23 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:


Here's mine with my past predictions:



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Battleground Map:

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Barring a major change, I'm convinced Biden will take Michigan and Pennsylvania; I'm close to saying Wisconsin will go blue as well. The map does change a bit: I moved Georgia from tilt blue to tilt red.

Georgia is going to continue to bounce between republicans and democrats this year. I’m not sure if we’ll be able to really predict it.

Which isn’t good for republicans at all. Hell a poll recently said that putting politics aside 60% of Georgians are disgusted by Trump, don’t think he’s Presidential, and dislike his personality.

Now this is interesting because that means quite a bit of Georgians are planning on voting Trump because the fear what could happen under a Biden president
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:57 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:Trump and the RNC raised $165 Million for July, out raising Biden and DNC's $140 million.

However, Biden and DNC have almost the same amount of cash-on hand as Trump and the RNC: Biden has $294 Million on hand; Trump has over $300 million. Just only a few months ago, it seemed Biden would struggle to close the gap. Now he has comfortably closed it and can go toe-to-toe with Trump, who has probably spent more money than Biden at this point.


Trump is going to need more as he will be spending money on states which should have been safe.

With Biden's current strategy of letting Trump shoot on his own goal and then doing a satellite interview with someone "Can you believe this fucking guy?" he might not have to spend a dime.

He also gets to outsource all his attack ads to the Lincoln Project. He gets to run a budget campaign.
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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:38 pm



Obviously it's the part where Trump goes cross-eyed as semi-complex mathematics attempt to spark in his brain to no avail. "wha numbur?"

Who the fuck keeps signing Trump up to get grilled, methinks whoever is making his interview schedule is trying to sabotage him. What next is he gonna do an interview with the decrepit corpse of Vladimir Lenin and we have to awkwardly watch for an hour as he tries and fails to arm wrestle the corpse?
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:04 am

Davinhia wrote:I don't like any party but the Greens are my choice from that list and closest believe in what I do

However when it comes to dems vs republicans, I'm just so sick of the democrats and their shit so I'd choose republicans


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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:14 am

Vassenor wrote:
Davinhia wrote:I don't like any party but the Greens are my choice from that list and closest believe in what I do

However when it comes to dems vs republicans, I'm just so sick of the democrats and their shit so I'd choose republicans


Today in "cutting off one's nose to spite their face"...


Trump supporters weigh the pros and cons of catching Coronavirus.

"If I survive, it'll make Trump look good."
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:29 am

The Rich Port wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Today in "cutting off one's nose to spite their face"...


Trump supporters weigh the pros and cons of catching Coronavirus.

"If I survive, it'll make Trump look good."

lol, I'm having a lol attack, :) :rofl:
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:35 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Trump supporters weigh the pros and cons of catching Coronavirus.

"If I survive, it'll make Trump look good."

lol, I'm having a lol attack, :) :rofl:


Are you going to address the interview or not?
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:41 am

Vassenor wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:lol, I'm having a lol attack, :) :rofl:


Are you going to address the interview or not?

I did not take this post seriously, I took it as a funny joke, and I am a Trump supporter as you all know.

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Postby Vassenor » Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:43 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Are you going to address the interview or not?

I did not take this post seriously, I took it as a funny joke:

viewtopic.php?p=37491269#p37491269


That doesn't answer my question. Are you going to address Trump's interview like you were asked to or not?

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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:45 am

Vassenor wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I did not take this post seriously, I took it as a funny joke:

viewtopic.php?p=37491269#p37491269


That doesn't answer my question. Are you going to address Trump's interview like you were asked to or not?



I think I hit a nerve and he actually was considering it before I made it sound silly.

About as cohesive and coherent a response as we're gonna get.
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Postby Juristonia » Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:51 am

Considering the hundreds and hundreds of posts so far, I'm amazed anyone still expects anything more than that.
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Juristonia wrote:Considering the hundreds and hundreds of posts so far, I'm amazed anyone still expects anything more than that.


Maybe GMS will watch it after all. His beloved Trump is the star of the show, so why not?
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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:56 am

Juristonia wrote:Considering the hundreds and hundreds of posts so far, I'm amazed anyone still expects anything more than that.


Sad to say but patience will win the day eventually. What separates us from the bad guys is we're willing to accept people who want to redeem themselves. It's how you de-radicalize people, by showing them that there is nothing wrong with temperance and that it's never too late to abandon their radicalism.

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:25 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Trump is going to need more as he will be spending money on states which should have been safe.

With Biden's current strategy of letting Trump shoot on his own goal and then doing a satellite interview with someone "Can you believe this fucking guy?" he might not have to spend a dime.

He also gets to outsource all his attack ads to the Lincoln Project. He gets to run a budget campaign.

Lincoln Project should run a few more attack adds in Georgia attacking Trumps personality. 60% of Georgians dislike the president based on his personality. If you get at least a fourth of those to vote blue you could flip the state
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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Aug 06, 2020 3:50 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Hmm, so you are not tired of the last 4 years?

Personally, I love the last 4 years and want Trump 4 more years, as most Republicans.


But Trump himself has admitted that Republicans are an insignificant group; representing a tiny minority of Americans and having no chance of ever winning if all Americans would vote.

Why do you hate democracy and hope they win ?
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Postby Cisairse » Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:20 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:With Biden's current strategy of letting Trump shoot on his own goal and then doing a satellite interview with someone "Can you believe this fucking guy?" he might not have to spend a dime.

He also gets to outsource all his attack ads to the Lincoln Project. He gets to run a budget campaign.

Lincoln Project should run a few more attack adds in Georgia attacking Trumps personality. 60% of Georgians dislike the president based on his personality. If you get at least a fourth of those to vote blue you could flip the state

Focus groups have shown time and time again that merely reminding voters that Trump is unpresidential and has a disagreeable personality does not make them want to vote for him any less. What makes them want to vote for Biden is drawing a narrative around Trump's disagreeable personality and connecting it to policy failures and real (numerical) losses sustained by America.

This is why the Lincoln Project is absolutely fucking useless and they're just wasting everyone's time and their own money. They aren't invested in actually sinking Trump, they're only investing in making themselves feel better by making troll ads that convince nobody to vote against Trump.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:23 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:With Biden's current strategy of letting Trump shoot on his own goal and then doing a satellite interview with someone "Can you believe this fucking guy?" he might not have to spend a dime.

He also gets to outsource all his attack ads to the Lincoln Project. He gets to run a budget campaign.

Lincoln Project should run a few more attack adds in Georgia attacking Trumps personality. 60% of Georgians dislike the president based on his personality. If you get at least a fourth of those to vote blue you could flip the state

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Postby Zurkerx » Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:16 am

Biden Says He Wouldn't Stand In The Way Of A Trump Prosecution. While he did say that prosecuting a former president would be a "very unusual thing and probably not very ... good for democracy," he wouldn't interfere with the judgment of the DOJ. Essentially, he's allowing the DOJ to act independently of his judgment.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:18 am

Zurkerx wrote:Biden Says He Wouldn't Stand In The Way Of A Trump Prosecution. While he did say that prosecuting a former president would be a "very unusual thing and probably not very ... good for democracy," he wouldn't interfere with the judgment of the DOJ. Essentially, he's allowing the DOJ to act independently of his judgment.


Good. The "tradition" of Presidents pardoning their successors was never good, it led to this, and it should end.
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Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:Biden Says He Wouldn't Stand In The Way Of A Trump Prosecution. While he did say that prosecuting a former president would be a "very unusual thing and probably not very ... good for democracy," he wouldn't interfere with the judgment of the DOJ. Essentially, he's allowing the DOJ to act independently of his judgment.


Good. The "tradition" of Presidents pardoning their successors was never good, it led to this, and it should end.


Well, only Ford pardoned a former President, and that was Nixon. That was the only case of such a thing though it set a bad precedent and it should have never happened. Either way, it's a clear message to Trump: I won't go after you, but I won't protect you either.
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