The issue was not one of comprehension; as I said, why is it justified.
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by Anti Defense League » Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:59 am
by -Astoria- » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:15 am
It's very simple;
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by Anti Defense League » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:40 am
-Astoria- wrote:It's very simple;Anti Defense League wrote:
The issue was not one of comprehension; as I said, why is it justified..
- Confederate flag - used as symbol by traitors during the Civil War
- modern use - hate groups (& some terrorist organisations)
- ergo, justified to prohibit it on federal property
Do you comprehend now?
by -Astoria- » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:46 am
...as in?Anti Defense League wrote:-Astoria- wrote:It's very simple;.
- Confederate flag - used as symbol by traitors during the Civil War
- modern use - hate groups (& some terrorist organisations)
- ergo, justified to prohibit it on federal property
Do you comprehend now?
Let me ask again: why?
I understand what you're saying, I'm asking as to the conclusion.
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by Anti Defense League » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:46 am
by -Astoria- » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:52 am
...because it represents the traitors to the Union who fought under that flag?Anti Defense League wrote:"justified to prohibit it on federal property"
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by Anti Defense League » Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:53 am
by SD_Film Artists » Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:07 am
The New California Republic wrote:SD_Film Artists wrote:As for the rainbow flag, I'd like to see the look of Jihadis when they get routed by a 'gay tank'.
"We fight hard... and play hard"
There actually is precedent. US forces in Korea and Vietnam often painted fierce lion faces on the front of their tanks because they thought Asians were backwards and generally superstitious and thus be afraid of the drawings. It's total nonsense of course, and thus they weren't afraid of the drawings at all.
But maybe the LGBT flag would make the Jihadis afraid.
by The Huskar Social Union » Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:15 am
by -Astoria- » Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:23 am
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by The New California Republic » Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:24 am
SD_Film Artists wrote:The New California Republic wrote:There actually is precedent. US forces in Korea and Vietnam often painted fierce lion faces on the front of their tanks because they thought Asians were backwards and generally superstitious and thus be afraid of the drawings. It's total nonsense of course, and thus they weren't afraid of the drawings at all.
But maybe the LGBT flag would make the Jihadis afraid.
Interesting, I had previously thought it was like those shark jaws that are on some aircraft but taken a bit too far.
by Anti Defense League » Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:27 am
by -Astoria- » Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:30 am
Elaborate, please.
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by Anti Defense League » Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:32 am
by -Astoria- » Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:34 am
OK; then how is it supposedly not a logical conclusion?
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by Anti Defense League » Sun Aug 02, 2020 3:42 am
by The Two Jerseys » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:42 am
Jedi Council wrote:The Two Jerseys wrote:So just like the British did in 1812-14...
Neither are the British today, so I'm not sure what you're trying to prove here.
Oh lord, are you really trying to use the War of 1812 as evidence the British wanted to reconquer America? And to ensure slavery remained? Because if so I suggest you do some more research because both of those claims are entirely false.
Yes, the British have fought wars with the Americans, just like the Germans. But for the last few generations, they have been America's staunchest allies.
The Confederates are defeated traitors not merely enemies or rivals. They wanted to keep an entire race in bondage. That was their raison d'etre. Why would any well adjusted person, anyone who claims to be a patriot, or anyone who values equality fly any flag associated with the Confederacy?
by The Reformed American Republic » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:56 am
by Evacillian » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:00 am
by Organized States » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:06 am
Evacillian wrote:As the discussions in this forum has evolved , the topic of why the Confederate States of America should be honored or dishonored has been brought up. Here are some points to consider.
1) Combined, President Abraham Lincoln and President Andrew Johnson gave full pardon for and restoration of property to all those on the losing side. The Compromise of 1877 is proof that the Former Confederate States were to be treated once again like regular States of the Union.
2) Respecting the losing side (the inferior) is considered honorable and true. The Confederate States of America and those who fought for it are honoured for their valor. The Confederate States of America did what the Constitution encouraged them to do, which was to rebel against a government which they believed was oppressive. This honour is seen as how the Union treat the dead Confederate soldiers till this day.
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title38-section2306&num=0&edition=prelim
3) Flags are symbols that can be interpreted in a variety of ways. These interpretations are made by individuals whose ideas can contradict with other individuals.
How many different interpretations do you think the Flag of the United States of America has garnered over the years in the billions of people who have seen it? In how many ways has the Flag of the United States of America been used by groups and individuals, American and Non-American? Personally, I don't think I would be able to successfully count. What I do know, is that each interpretation and display of any flag is a right that individuals should be able to make. It is not my right to take, damage, or destroy another's property just because I find the flag they wave to be offensive.
by Thermodolia » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:07 am
Evacillian wrote:As the discussions in this forum has evolved , the topic of why the Confederate States of America should be honored or dishonored has been brought up. Here are some points to consider.
1) Combined, President Abraham Lincoln and President Andrew Johnson gave full pardon for and restoration of property to all those on the losing side. The Compromise of 1877 is proof that the Former Confederate States were to be treated once again like regular States of the Union.
2) Respecting the losing side (the inferior) is considered honorable and true.
The Confederate States of America and those who fought for it are honoured for their valor. The Confederate States of America did what the Constitution encouraged them to do, which was to rebel against a government which they believed was oppressive.
3) Flags are symbols that can be interpreted in a variety of ways. These interpretations are made by individuals whose ideas can contradict with other individuals.
How many different interpretations do you think the Flag of the United States of America has garnered over the years in the billions of people who have seen it? In how many ways has the Flag of the United States of America been used by groups and individuals, American and Non-American? Personally, I don't think I would be able to successfully count. What I do know, is that each interpretation and display of any flag is a right that individuals should be able to make. It is not my right to take, damage, or destroy another's property just because I find the flag they wave to be offensive.
by The Two Jerseys » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:26 am
by Organized States » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:30 am
The Two Jerseys wrote:Organized States wrote:We don't honor Benedict Arnold for his valor.
*cough cough*
by The Emerald Legion » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:33 am
by Organized States » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:35 am
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