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[Draft] Names in a Hat

Postby Doge Land » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:39 am

I've had this idea in my head for a while now, so I'm going to type this out so I can remember it.

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Draft 2
[Requirements for issue]
Must have "Sortition" policy

[Description]
The random selection of politicians in @@NAME@@ has come again. This year, all of the employees in the government are busy with other issues, so they'll have to hire hundreds of new employees. With the new hires, comes their payment, and millions in tax dollars will need to be spent on hiring the employees.

[Option 1]
"Why are our valuable tax dollars being spent on hiring new morons to 'represent' us!" yells @@RANDOMNAME@@, the leader of the extremeist @@DENONYMADJECTIVE@@ Voting Group, as @@HE@@ gradually destroys your desk. "We need to vote the politicians in, so our tax dollars go to a person of value to us!"
[Effect 1]
There are lines of people all around @@NAME@@ as new voting centers fill up.
- Sortition policy removed

[Option 2]
Your worried political advisor, @@RANDOMNAME@@, stands behind you. @@HE@@ whispers to you, "It'll cost millions more @@CURRENCY@@ to setup voting stations around @@NAME@@! We should get these morons out of your office so we can work in peace!"
[Effect 2]
Protesters in @@CAPITAL@@ stop legislators from getting in or out of government buildings.
Sortition remains
- Political freedoms lower

[Option 3]
@@RANDOMNAME@@, one of the protesters in your office, overhears your conversation with your political advisor. @@HE@@ says to you, "If the government doesn't have the money, have the cities pay for it! It may be a unpopular decision, but a necessary one!" @@HE@@ also starts to destroy your desk.
[Effect 3]
Cities around @@NAME@@ go bankrupt as the government moves the costs to them.
- Sortition policy removed
+ Devolution policy added (NOTE: Devolution because the cities are now mostly in charge of the costs of the nation, not the federal government.)

[Option 4]
"Why do we even have a legislation system?" asks your father's uncle. "It seems like it just complicates everything." he smiles as he says "We should return to the old days, where one person was in charge."
[Effect 4]
Hundreds are unemployed you fire all of the people useless to you now.
- Sortition policy removed
+ Autocracy policy added

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[Requirements for issue]
Must have "Sortition" policy

[Description]
The politicians in @@NAME@@ have been randomly selected again, but this time the citizens of @@NAME@@ are barging into your office, demanding that you do something about it.

[Option 1]
"These people are idiots!" yells @@RANDOMNAME@@. "Yesterday, the politician representing my town voted on a bill that everyone in town hated! They need to be removed from office, and the competent people in our town should be voted in!"
[Effect 1]
Lines of people all around @@NAME@@ as new voting centers fill up.
- Sortition policy removed

[Option 2]
"I think it's fine," states one of the legislators, @@RANDOMNAME@@. "Nothing should be changed, and the way everything is going right now is alright. We shouldn't cause a governmental standstill by holding long voting sessions."
[Effect 2]
Protesters in @@CAPITAL@@ stop legislators from getting in or out of government buildings.
- No change

[Option 3]
"Why do we even have a legislation system?" asks old @@DEMONYMADJECTIVE@@ citizen @@RANDOMNAME@@. "It seems like it just complicates everything." @@HE@@ smiles as @@HE@@ says "We should return to the old days, where one person was in charge."
[Effect 3]
Hundreds are unemployed as dictator fires everyone unimportant or annoying in the government.
- Sortition policy removed
- Autocracy policy added
Last edited by Doge Land on Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:06 pm, edited 5 times in total.
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Postby The Supreme Vatican Caliphate » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:51 am

Option 2 doesn’t do anything, and is thus redundant.

Effect lines don’t start with a capital letter.

It’s also lacking..well, words.
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Postby Westinor » Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:53 am

Care for overlap with Issue #465.
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Postby Trotterdam » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:53 pm

Issues need a better premise than "people don't like what you did and are complaining about it".

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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:13 am

Commendee Trotterdam is correct in this. The premise here is too thin.

Instead, try to think of an unexpected consequence of sortition, and aim to build an issue around that.
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Postby Daarwyrth » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:51 am

I am currently drafting an issue centered around sortition fraud (namely this one). It's one of the aspects that could go wrong in a system such as sortition. Perhaps you could consider another element of this system that has the potential to cause trouble? For example, perhaps a group of criminals have been randomly selected for parliament and want to decriminalize some of their activities. I am sure there are more creative issues to be thought of around sortition, but they seem to elude my mind at the moment :P
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Postby Trotterdam » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:31 am

Daarwyrth wrote:For example, perhaps a group of criminals have been randomly selected for parliament and want to decriminalize some of their activities.
One or two criminals being selected would be pretty common, unless criminals are explicitly excluded from the lottery. Criminals making up the majority of parliament, on the other hand, would be rare to the point of suggesting fraud (hey, they're already criminals).

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Postby Daarwyrth » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:44 am

Trotterdam wrote:
Daarwyrth wrote:For example, perhaps a group of criminals have been randomly selected for parliament and want to decriminalize some of their activities.
One or two criminals being selected would be pretty common, unless criminals are explicitly excluded from the lottery. Criminals making up the majority of parliament, on the other hand, would be rare to the point of suggesting fraud (hey, they're already criminals).


That's a lottocracy issue right there! Should criminals/ex-convicts be allowed into the selection pool? :)
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Postby Doge Land » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:06 am

I shook it up a little.

I've been trying to figure out what to do with this, and I finally figured it out. Draft 2 is out.
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Postby Honeydewistania » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:15 am

You should make the characters more interesting. Like option one could be some radical extremist breaking something in your office, fourth one could be leader's grandpa and ramble on about good old days etc
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Postby Doge Land » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:17 am

Honeydewistania wrote:You should make the characters more interesting. Like option one could be some radical extremist breaking something in your office, fourth one could be leader's grandpa and ramble on about good old days etc


Interesting.
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Postby Doge Land » Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:26 am

Edited, how about now?
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Postby Nonadia » Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:27 am

I think that something crazy or different should happen, elections happen every year, people should have a reason to suddenly question it.
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Postby Doge Land » Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:07 pm

Nonadia wrote:I think that something crazy or different should happen, elections happen every year, people should have a reason to suddenly question it.

There. I changed the description, it should be more different.
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Postby Great Robertia » Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:50 am

The way the premise is currently written feels quite static at the moment. Try to see if you could have the sentences flow more naturally, and use synonyms. That should liven up the text already.

Also, I am not sure what the dilemma in this issue draft is. Hiring new employees isn't a necessity, because in sortition it's only the Parliamentarians that are changing. In essence, the existing government employees only get new bosses, that's all. And if sortition has been around in the country for years, why is this hiring a problem now? Why wasn't it a problem before? Those are all questions which I feel undermine the strength of the current premise.
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Postby USS Monitor » Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:38 am

Great Robertia wrote:The way the premise is currently written feels quite static at the moment. Try to see if you could have the sentences flow more naturally, and use synonyms. That should liven up the text already.

Also, I am not sure what the dilemma in this issue draft is. Hiring new employees isn't a necessity, because in sortition it's only the Parliamentarians that are changing. In essence, the existing government employees only get new bosses, that's all. And if sortition has been around in the country for years, why is this hiring a problem now? Why wasn't it a problem before? Those are all questions which I feel undermine the strength of the current premise.


This is more or less my thoughts too.
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