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Postby Aureumterra » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:48 pm

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Aureumterra wrote:This is actually feasible to a degree, other people have literally supported “giving land back to native Americans” and somehow go offline whenever pressed about how they plan on doing so


What my plan would be?

Making conditions in the current reservations better. Instead of "taking back land" or any of that "reperations" stuff

Which reminds me, technically the people who say Native Americans should get their land back in the 21st century are both irredentists and nationalists
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Postby Heloin » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:02 pm

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Heloin wrote:I always enjoy white racists from overseas telling me how my country works. There's always the fetishisation of Rhodesia mixed in with something about race relations that seem to always run contrary to the actual relations in Zimbabwe. Like the land seizures were actually some sort of grass root black rebellion and not a desperate attempt by a dictator to find a scapegoat that actually failed to impress the majority of the population.


Must be fun shutting people down who LARP as Rhodesian when you're the real deal. Definitely looks amusing.

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Kowani wrote:That's not how taxes work.


Uhh, that's exactly how taxes work. Where do you think the government gets it's money?

...The government creates money by spending. Taxes don't actually fund anything at the federal level.
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Postby -Astoria- » Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:57 am

Novus America wrote:Native Americans are not the topic, despite some reductionist similarities (both lost land) the situations are dramatically different.

Zimbabwe is a very different situation.

Especially that Mugabe and his criminal cronies are still alive, and forcing them to give back the land they personally stole is perfectly justified.

Mugabe seized the farms and then gave many to himself or his cronies which is much easier to reverse, because forcing them to give back what they personally stole is quite different than dealing with things that happened over a century ago.
Mugabe's been dead for a while.
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Postby Kowani » Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:37 am

-Astoria- wrote:
Novus America wrote:Native Americans are not the topic, despite some reductionist similarities (both lost land) the situations are dramatically different.

Zimbabwe is a very different situation.

Especially that Mugabe and his criminal cronies are still alive, and forcing them to give back the land they personally stole is perfectly justified.

Mugabe seized the farms and then gave many to himself or his cronies which is much easier to reverse, because forcing them to give back what they personally stole is quite different than dealing with things that happened over a century ago.
Mugabe's been dead for a while.

...He's been dead a year.
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Postby Solvokina » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:08 am

Lets make a non-racist Rhodesia
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Postby -Astoria- » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:14 am

Solvokina wrote:Lets make a non-racist Rhodesia
But what would we call it?
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Postby Solvokina » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:15 am

-Astoria- wrote:
Solvokina wrote:Lets make a non-racist Rhodesia
But what would we call it?

Rhodesia
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Postby Heloin » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:15 am

-Astoria- wrote:
Solvokina wrote:Lets make a non-racist Rhodesia
But what would we call it?

Zimbabwe.

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Postby -Astoria- » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:18 am

Solvokina wrote:
-Astoria- wrote:But what would we call it?

Rhodesia
How about no?
Heloin wrote:
-Astoria- wrote:But what would we call it?

Zimbabwe.
As for Great Zimbabwe? if Britain can call itself such, what stops it this time?
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Postby Solvokina » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:19 am

-Astoria- wrote:
Solvokina wrote:Rhodesia
How about no?
Heloin wrote:Zimbabwe.
As for Great Zimbabwe? if Britain can call itself such, what stops it this time?

Rhodesia sounds cooler than Zimbabwe. And the flag is x2 cooler
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Postby -Astoria- » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:21 am

Solvokina wrote:Rhodesia sounds cooler than Zimbabwe. And the flag is x2 cooler
Nah; for one, Cecil Rhodes. Secondly, looks too similar to ours (except with a coat-of-arms slapped in the middle).
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Postby Heloin » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:25 am

-Astoria- wrote:
Heloin wrote:Zimbabwe.
As for Great Zimbabwe? if Britain can call itself such, what stops it this time?

Harare was Salisbury, Chegutu was Hartley
Enkeldoorn is now Chivhu I heard someone moan
If each street in Harare’s named after Mugabe
Just follow the road it’ll still get you home

-Astoria- wrote:
Solvokina wrote:Rhodesia sounds cooler than Zimbabwe. And the flag is x2 cooler
Nah; for one, Cecil Rhodes. Secondly, looks too similar to ours (except with a coat-of-arms slapped in the middle).

The Nigerian flag if made by committee.

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Postby Solvokina » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:27 am

-Astoria- wrote:
Solvokina wrote:Rhodesia sounds cooler than Zimbabwe. And the flag is x2 cooler
Nah; for one, Cecil Rhodes. Secondly, looks too similar to ours (except with a coat-of-arms slapped in the middle).

I can see soon to be called Rhodesia Zimbabwe becoming a developed nation without the asshole Mugabe around
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:27 am

Solvokina wrote:
-Astoria- wrote:But what would we call it?

Rhodesia

Heloin wrote:
-Astoria- wrote:But what would we call it?

Zimbabwe.


Let's meet half-way and restore Zimbabwe-Rhodesia. It had the best flag anyway.
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Postby Solvokina » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:28 am

Heloin wrote:
-Astoria- wrote:As for Great Zimbabwe? if Britain can call itself such, what stops it this time?

Harare was Salisbury, Chegutu was Hartley
Enkeldoorn is now Chivhu I heard someone moan
If each street in Harare’s named after Mugabe
Just follow the road it’ll still get you home.

Salisbury > Harare name wise
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Postby Israeli Defense Force » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:29 am

Major-Tom wrote:
Ammostan wrote:
Yes, let's make taxpayers who had nothing to do with enslavement pay people who have never been enslaved. Sounds fair.


I'm iffy about US repatriations myself, but look at the crux of your argument here. Zimbabwean black people currently aren't responsible for what Mugabe did in the past, but they're still going to be pitching in for the white population who had their land seized. Is that not similar?

No?

Zimbabwe is compensating people still alive who suffered.

Slavery in the United States ended over 150 years ago and descendants of slaves have already received billions in aid from state and federal government programs.

There are deeper ills in their communities that "slave reparations" won't fix. President Obama worked on it. It's a shame he couldn't serve more terms.

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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:29 am

Solvokina wrote:
Heloin wrote:Harare was Salisbury, Chegutu was Hartley
Enkeldoorn is now Chivhu I heard someone moan
If each street in Harare’s named after Mugabe
Just follow the road it’ll still get you home.

Salisbury > Harare name wise


Nah, you got that backwards.
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Postby -Astoria- » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:30 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Solvokina wrote:Rhodesia

Heloin wrote:Zimbabwe.


Let's meet half-way and restore Zimbabwe-Rhodesia. It had the best flag anyway.
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Postby Solvokina » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:31 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Solvokina wrote:Salisbury > Harare name wise


Nah, you got that backwards.

Ironically there is a suburb in South Australia called Salisbury
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Postby Solvokina » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:31 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Solvokina wrote:Rhodesia

Heloin wrote:Zimbabwe.


Let's meet half-way and restore Zimbabwe-Rhodesia. It had the best flag anyway.

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Postby Heloin » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:32 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Solvokina wrote:Rhodesia

Heloin wrote:Zimbabwe.


Let's meet half-way and restore Rhodesia-Zimbabwe. It had the best flag anyway.

Firstly it went by Zimbabwe Rhodesia. Secondly they were in the process of dropping Rhodesia from the name if the internal settlement had worked out. Thirdly it's honestly a great flag but the current one is better.

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Postby Heloin » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:33 am

Solvokina wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Nah, you got that backwards.

Ironically there is a suburb in South Australia called Salisbury

That's not very ironic. Salisbury is a pretty common place name.

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Postby -Astoria- » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:34 am

Heloin wrote:
Solvokina wrote:Ironically there is a suburb in South Australia called Salisbury

That's not very ironic. Salisbury is a pretty common place name.
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Postby Hellslayer » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:34 am

Just saying, it might be a good move considering the inflation rates: Its 100-trillion-dollar note was worth just 40 U.S. cents in 2015
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