by Evacillian » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:36 pm
by Alcala-Cordel » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:45 pm
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:44 am
Evacillian wrote:Intro
In the middle of July 2020, the United States' Department of Defense, led by Secretary of Defense Dr. Mark T. Esper, clamped down, restricting flags that can be displayed anywhere the Department of Defense has authority over, which includes military bases, the Pentagon, restrooms, etc.
by Prizea » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:54 am
by Dumb Ideologies » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:59 am
by Nuroblav » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:11 am
Alcala-Cordel wrote:“The white man will try to satisfy us with symbolic victories rather than economic equity and real justice”
-Malcolm X
It's worth noting that this quote doesn't exactly fit, but it comes pretty close. I guess it's cool that they can't fly the Confederate flag, but that's not gonna do anything to solve the underlying problem. This is a worthless gesture to the current tensions, and the protests must not let up until true justice and accountability are achieved.
by Picairn » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:49 am
by The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:52 am
by Earthbound Immortal Squad » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:55 am
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:55 am
Picairn wrote:Only the US national flag should be allowed.
by Fartsniffage » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:56 am
Picairn wrote:Only the US national flag should be allowed.
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:57 am
by Picairn » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:00 am
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:And the UN flag, for when Trump is visiting and the base commander wants to troll him.
Fartsniffage wrote:I'd also allow the flags of any other nation who has troops on the base. Or the next time the Royal Marines or the Paras are over there for some interoperability training there will be fights.
by Fartsniffage » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:01 am
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:I've never seen a base, but wouldn't they leave the US flag up and fly others (eg state flag) on a lower pole beside it?
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:04 am
Fartsniffage wrote:Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:I've never seen a base, but wouldn't they leave the US flag up and fly others (eg state flag) on a lower pole beside it?
It's not just the flag poles, people have them up in quarters and communal areas. If you're in shared quarters flags are really useful for a bit of privacy too. The nylon ones are super lightweight so you can hang them from anything to make screens or makeshift doors.
by Greed and Death » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:24 am
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:I've never seen a base, but wouldn't they leave the US flag up and fly others (eg state flag) on a lower pole beside it?
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:25 am
by Greed and Death » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:28 am
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Sounds good to me.
Well, except the Amerindian Reservation flags. I don't think those should be banned as there are natives in service and they should be able to show pride for their tribe just as any other American would for their state. Unless state flags are also banned, tribal flags shouldn't be.
by -Astoria- » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:28 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:As a non-USian, it makes sense not to allow any flags other than the national flag and the flag of the state a base is in. The military shouldn't be in the business of supporting individual interest groups or historical traitors in the case of the confederate flag.
In particular, I imagine putting any Native American symbols outside an institution of force of the country that took their historic lands would be fairly tone-deaf and likely to annoy more people than it made feel "included" so even within the internal logic of the diversity agenda that would seem like a no-no.
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by Greed and Death » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:42 am
by Greed and Death » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:42 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:As a non-USian, it makes sense not to allow any flags other than the national flag and the flag of the state a base is in. The military shouldn't be in the business of supporting individual interest groups or historical traitors in the case of the confederate flag.
In particular, I imagine putting any Native American symbols outside an institution of force of the country that took their historic lands would be fairly tone-deaf and likely to annoy more people than it made feel "included" so even within the internal logic of the diversity agenda that would seem like a no-no.
by SD_Film Artists » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:23 am
by Thermodolia » Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:26 am
SD_Film Artists wrote:Why is this even an issue? Isn't it just normal to fly the US flag on federal buildings? Perhaps I shouldn't be surprised since the US is the only western country where flying full-size flags outside your home is considered normal.
by The New California Republic » Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:37 am
by Thermodolia » Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:38 am
The New California Republic wrote:I would have thought that it'd be taken as a given that the military has broad jurisdiction of what happens inside bases....
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