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[ISSUE DRAFT] The lost Violetist city

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[ISSUE DRAFT] The lost Violetist city

Postby La xinga » Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:47 am

Co-authored by Melicorium and Minskiev.

THE ISSUE: After two centuries of conspiracies and mysteries, explorer @@RANDOMNAME@@ has found the ancient capital of an ancient Violetist nation in the forests of @@NAME@@, along with piles of jewels in its temple center. Sadly, @@HE@@ did from a cardiac arrest that night after celebrating, and since @@HE@@ has no family, @@DENONYMPLURAL@@ across the nation have been calling for you to intervene on what to do with the jewels.

OPTION 1A: (has Capitalism) "We can make tons of @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@ off of this!" exclaims CEO of @@NAME@@ Mining Ltd., @@RANDOMNAME@@, while staring at the golden @@ANIMAL@@ statue on your desk. "If you would only allow my company and I to dig it up, I- I mean WE could make millions! We should allow people to mine and harvest whatever they want from historical sights! After all, what's worth more, some historical garbage or @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@?"
Result: Companies loot their founders’ birthplaces.

OPTION 1B: (does not have Capitalism) "@@NAME@@ can make tons of @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@ off of this!" exclaims your State Director of Mining, @@RANDOMNAME@@, while staring at the golden @@ANIMAL@@ statue on your desk. "Please, allow us to mine these jewels and give them to the state, we would like to be honor- I mean be very good citizens. While you're at it, allow people to mine and harvest whatever they want from historical sights and bring them to the government for an reward! After all, what's worth more, some historical garbage or @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@?"
Result: People raid government property to give it to the government.


OPTION 2: "Get your hands off of my family heritage!" exclaims @@RANDOMNAME@@, a descendant of the first sacrificial leader of the Order of Violet. "Those jewels are sacred to my dear family and the Violetist community as a whole, preserved from the times of Queen Amethyst Lavendar I! You must give them over to us, or Violet will get her revenge!"
Result: @@NAME@@‘s most used excuse is ‘Because Violet said.’

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OPTION 3: "Why can't we just leave the jewels and the ancient capital the way they are?" remarks @@RANDOMNAME@@, your Minister of Tourism. "Where would the money come from? Tourism! Build amusement parks, coffee shops, and restaurants around the area, and let the money roll into our @@TYPE@@!"
Result: The entirety of @@NAME@@ is a tourist attraction.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:23 pm

Why would anyone choose option 1 over option 3? Option 3 will generate significantly more income
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Australian rePublic wrote:Why would anyone choose option 1 over option 3? Option 3 will generate significantly more income

Okay, I will edit it.
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Postby Ko-oren » Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:41 am

@@CURRENCY@@ in Option 1 should be @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@.

If Option 1 is about @@LEADER@@ and his friends getting rich, I'd replace @@NATION@@ with 'we' or something.

Right now, the word 'jewel' feels like a MacGuffin to keep the story alive. I'd rather have a more concrete reason (why these jewels? Which jewels exactly? What makes them important to the Violetists?) to care about this issue, but maybe that's the critic in me speaking.
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Postby La xinga » Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:31 am

Ko-oren wrote:@@CURRENCY@@ in Option 1 should be @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@.

Okay, I will.
If Option 1 is about @@LEADER@@ and his friends getting rich, I'd replace @@NATION@@ with 'we' or something.

it encourages miner and digging campaigns, for the entire nation.
Right now, the word 'jewel' feels like a MacGuffin to keep the story alive. I'd rather have a more concrete reason (why these jewels? Which jewels exactly? What makes them important to the Violetists?) to care about this issue, but maybe that's the critic in me speaking.

I'll try to fix some stuff, thank you!
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OKAY, is it better now?
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Postby Melicorium » Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:36 am

It's good, but since the first option sounds too capitalist, it should have a variant for socialist nations (like me).

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REVISED VERSION BY MELICORIUM

ELIGIBILITY: Must not have the "Atheism" policy, due to #2, and it wouldn't make sense to leave out #2

THE ISSUE: After two centuries, Architect @@RANDOMNAME@@ has found the ancient capital of the Order of Violet in the forests of @@NAME@@, along with piles of jewels in its temple. People have been called to your office to decide what to do.

OPTION 1A: (Only for nations with the Capitalism policy) "We can make tons of @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@ off of this," says CEO of @@NAME@@ Mining Ltd., @@RANDOMNAME1@@, while staring at the your sister's diamond earring. "If you would only allow me and my fellow colleagues to harvest these massive jewels, we could make millions! We should allow people to take whatever they want from historical sights and encourage them to mine and dig for buried treasure. @@NATION@@ can become more rich than ever!"
Result: @@DEMONYM@@ children play pirate all the time.

OPTION 1A: (Only for nations with the Socialism policy) "We can make tons of @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@ off of this," says your State Director of Mining, @@RANDOMNAME1@@, while staring at the your sister's diamond earring. "If you would only allow me and my fellow comrades to harvest these massive jewels, we could make millions! We should allow proletarians to take whatever they want from historical sights and encourage them to make a living off of this treasure. @@NATION@@ can become more productive than ever!"
Result: @@DEMONYM@@ children play pirate all the time.

OPTION 2: "Get your hands off the holy temple jewels!" exclaims @@RANDOMNAME@@, a prominent member of the Order of Violet. "Those jewels are sacred to us Violetists, and you must give them over to us, or Violet will get her revenge!"
Result: The government is retorted and taunted for giving mountains of jewels to Violetists.

OPTION 3A: (Only for nations with the Capitalism policy) "Why can't we leave the jewels and the ancient capital alone?" remarks @@RANDOMNAME@@, your Finance Minister. "We need to open up the area to tourists! Build amusement parks, coffee shops, and restaurants around the area, and let the money roll in!"
Result: The government turns every interesting thing into a tourist attraction.

OPTION 3B: (Only for nations with the Socialism policy) "Why can't we leave the jewels and the ancient capital alone?" remarks @@RANDOMNAME@@, your People's Entertainment Minister. "We need to open up the area to tourists! Build amusement parks, coffee shops, and restaurants around the area, and let the workers have an enjoyable break from labor here!"
Result: The government turns every interesting thing into a tourist attraction.

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Postby La xinga » Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:12 pm

Now with the new version, is there anything else that is needed to be added?
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Postby Melicorium » Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:13 pm

By the way, it should be “my fellow comrades/colleagues and I”, not “me and my comrades/colleagues”. :/

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Melicorium wrote:By the way, it should be “my fellow comrades/colleagues and I”, not “me and my comrades/colleagues”. :/

Fixed! ;)
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1. Any other edits?
2. Is this eligible for the issue contest thing?
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Postby La xinga » Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:35 am

Is it too late to post here? Because I'm thinking of resubmitting this. Any edits I could make?
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Postby Drasnia » Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:46 pm

La xinga wrote:ELIGIBILITY: Must not have the "Atheism" policy, due to #2, and it wouldn't make sense to leave out #2

I think you could probably write #2 as to not exclude atheist nations, actually. If you can cleverly write #2's speaker as being from a foreign country, then the whole validity issue would be resolved.

La xinga wrote:THE ISSUE: After two centuries, explorer @@RANDOMNAME@@ has found the ancient capital of the Order of Violet in the forests of @@NAME@@, along with piles of jewels in its temple. People have been called to your office to decide what to do.

Is there a way to spice this up a little bit? I generally dislike sentences like your second sentence because it really doesn't tell us much. Either spend that time making the narrative stronger or get rid of it. It'd be a pretty short desc if you just got rid of it, so I think you have some room to play around and make it a bit more fun.

La xinga wrote:OPTION 1A: (Only for nations with the Capitalism policy) "We can make tons of @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@ off of this," says CEO of @@NAME@@ Mining Ltd., @@RANDOMNAME@@, while staring at the your sister's diamond earring. "If you would only allow my fellow colleagues and I to harvest these massive jewels, we could make millions! We should allow people to take whatever they want from historical sights and encourage them to mine and dig for buried treasure. @@NATION@@ can become more rich than ever!"
Result: @@DEMONYM@@ children play pirate all the time.

OPTION 1B: (Only for nations with the Socialism policy) "We can make tons of @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@ off of this," says your State Director of Mining, @@RANDOMNAME@@, while staring at the your sister's diamond earring. "If you would only allow my fellow comrades and I to harvest these massive jewels, we could make millions! We should allow proletarians to take whatever they want from historical sights and encourage them to make a living off of this treasure. @@NATION@@ can become more productive than ever!"

So two things I want to talk about here. Firstly, the last sentence seems a bit disjointed from the rest of it. I get what you're trying to do and I think you can get it to work, but it doesn't really logically flow well enough as written. Consider something like:
People should be able to dig and mine wherever they want - historical significance be damned!"

With something like this, you're making it clearer that he's still acting in his own self interest.

The second thing is that your socialist option doesn't really feel like a socialist option. It reads just like the capitalist version with a couple of words changed. That can sometimes work, but the central idea of the option is very capitalist in nature. Either write around it so that there's only one option instead of two, or change the socialist option a bit more so it's less about making money for himself and more for enriching the country as a whole.

La xinga wrote:OPTION 2: "Get your hands off the holy temple jewels!" exclaims @@RANDOMNAME@@, a prominent member of the Order of Violet. "Those jewels are sacred to us Violetists, preserved from the times of dear Violet! You must give them over to us, or Violet will get her revenge!"
Result: The government is retorted and taunted for giving mountains of jewels to Violetists.

So you know how I said you could potentially write around this for athiest nations? I actually think I came up with an idea. Make the speaker claim they're descended from the leaders of ancient Violetists or somehow connected to the lost city, and then have them say "Get your hands off my family's jewels!" Boom, instant publication material from the editors ;) (I'm joking about that last bit of course). Feel free to run with that idea if you like it.

Also, I don't think 'retorted' works quite like that.

This is the kind of issue that really deserves a reference or two to some famous treasure hunters, like maybe Indiana Jones, Nathan Drake, or Lara Croft. I hope that gives you some inspiration :)

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Postby La xinga » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:27 pm

Drasnia wrote:
La xinga wrote:ELIGIBILITY: Must not have the "Atheism" policy, due to #2, and it wouldn't make sense to leave out #2

I think you could probably write #2 as to not exclude atheist nations, actually. If you can cleverly write #2's speaker as being from a foreign country, then the whole validity issue would be resolved.

La xinga wrote:THE ISSUE: After two centuries, explorer @@RANDOMNAME@@ has found the ancient capital of the Order of Violet in the forests of @@NAME@@, along with piles of jewels in its temple. People have been called to your office to decide what to do.

Is there a way to spice this up a little bit? I generally dislike sentences like your second sentence because it really doesn't tell us much. Either spend that time making the narrative stronger or get rid of it. It'd be a pretty short desc if you just got rid of it, so I think you have some room to play around and make it a bit more fun.

La xinga wrote:OPTION 1A: (Only for nations with the Capitalism policy) "We can make tons of @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@ off of this," says CEO of @@NAME@@ Mining Ltd., @@RANDOMNAME@@, while staring at the your sister's diamond earring. "If you would only allow my fellow colleagues and I to harvest these massive jewels, we could make millions! We should allow people to take whatever they want from historical sights and encourage them to mine and dig for buried treasure. @@NATION@@ can become more rich than ever!"
Result: @@DEMONYM@@ children play pirate all the time.

OPTION 1B: (Only for nations with the Socialism policy) "We can make tons of @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@ off of this," says your State Director of Mining, @@RANDOMNAME@@, while staring at the your sister's diamond earring. "If you would only allow my fellow comrades and I to harvest these massive jewels, we could make millions! We should allow proletarians to take whatever they want from historical sights and encourage them to make a living off of this treasure. @@NATION@@ can become more productive than ever!"

So two things I want to talk about here. Firstly, the last sentence seems a bit disjointed from the rest of it. I get what you're trying to do and I think you can get it to work, but it doesn't really logically flow well enough as written. Consider something like:
People should be able to dig and mine wherever they want - historical significance be damned!"

With something like this, you're making it clearer that he's still acting in his own self interest.

The second thing is that your socialist option doesn't really feel like a socialist option. It reads just like the capitalist version with a couple of words changed. That can sometimes work, but the central idea of the option is very capitalist in nature. Either write around it so that there's only one option instead of two, or change the socialist option a bit more so it's less about making money for himself and more for enriching the country as a whole.

La xinga wrote:OPTION 2: "Get your hands off the holy temple jewels!" exclaims @@RANDOMNAME@@, a prominent member of the Order of Violet. "Those jewels are sacred to us Violetists, preserved from the times of dear Violet! You must give them over to us, or Violet will get her revenge!"
Result: The government is retorted and taunted for giving mountains of jewels to Violetists.

So you know how I said you could potentially write around this for athiest nations? I actually think I came up with an idea. Make the speaker claim they're descended from the leaders of ancient Violetists or somehow connected to the lost city, and then have them say "Get your hands off my family's jewels!" Boom, instant publication material from the editors ;) (I'm joking about that last bit of course). Feel free to run with that idea if you like it.

Also, I don't think 'retorted' works quite like that.

This is the kind of issue that really deserves a reference or two to some famous treasure hunters, like maybe Indiana Jones, Nathan Drake, or Lara Croft. I hope that gives you some inspiration :)

The eligibility and DISC are fixed. Option 1 was fixed but will need some serious work. Option 2 was made spicier, and Option 3 was slightly fixed! :)
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Postby Awesomeland012345 » Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:40 pm

I revised it a bit. Some edits you may want to keep, some you may want to ignore.

La xinga wrote:Co-authored by Melicorium

THE ISSUE: After two centuries of conspiracies and mysteries, explorer @@RANDOMNAME@@ has found the ancient capital of the Order of Violet in the forests of @@NAME@@, along with piles of jewels in its temple center. After the explorer was attacked in @@HIS@@ home last night by unknown figures, people @@DENONYMPLURAL@@ across the nation have been calling for you to meddle inintervene.

OPTION 1A: (Only for nations with the Capitalism policy) "We can make tons of @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@ off of this!" says CEO of @@NAME@@ Mining Ltd., @@RANDOMNAME@@, while staring at the your sister's diamond earring. "If you would only allow my company and I to dig it up,. I- I mean we could make millions! We should allow people to mine and harvest whatever they want from historical sights! After all, what's worth more, some historical garbage or @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@?"
Result: where's the result? I'm assuming it's the one below.

OPTION 1B: (Only for nations with the Socialism policy) "@@NATION@@ make tons of @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@ off of this!" says your State Director of Mining, @@RANDOMNAME@@, while staring at the your sister's diamond earring. "Please, allow us to mine these jewels and give them to the state, we would like to be honor- I mean be very good citizens. While you're at it, allow people to mine and harvest whatever they want from historical sights and bring them to the government for an reward! After all, what's worth more, some historical garbage or @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@?"
Result: @@DEMONYM@@ historical sights are the least visited sports in the country after they get ransacked for the government.

OPTION 2: "Get your hands off of my family heritage!" exclaims @@RANDOMNAME@@, a descendant of the first sacrificial leader of the Order of Violet. "Those jewels are sacred to my dear family and the Violetist community as a whole, preserved from the times of Queen Amethyst Lavendar I! You must give them over to us, or Violet will get her revenge!"
Result: Tthe government is attacked and taunted for giving mountains of jewels to Violetists.

OPTION 3A: (Only for nations with the Capitalism policy) "Why can't we just leave the jewels and the ancient capital the way they are?" remarks @@RANDOMNAME@@, your Finance Minister. "Where would the money come from? Tourism! We need to open up the area to tourists! Build amusement parks, coffee shops, and restaurants around the area, and let the money roll into our @@TYPE@@!"
Result: The government turns every interesting thing into a tourist attraction.

OPTION 3B: (Only for nations with the Socialism policy) "Why can't we just leave the jewels and the ancient capital the way they are?" remarks @@RANDOMNAME@@, your People's Entertainment Minister. "Where would the money come from? Tourism! We need to open up the area to tourists! Build amusement parks, coffee shops, and restaurants around the area, and let the workers have an enjoyable break from labor here!"
Result: The government turns every interesting thing into a tourist attraction.


Also, options 3A and 3B seem like they could be combined. Or maybe not. idk, whichever seems better.
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Postby Minskiev » Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:59 am

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Co-authored by Melicorium

VALIDITY: Must not have Atheism
THE ISSUE: After two centuries of conspiracies and mysteries, explorer @@RANDOMNAME@@ has found the ancient capital of the Order of Violet The Order of Violet is a religion, not a state. Perhaps this could be of an ancient Violetist state? in the forests of @@NAME@@, along with piles of jewels in its temple center. After the explorer was attacked in @@HIS@@ home last night by unknown figures, @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ across the nation have been calling for you to intervene.

VALIDITY: has Capitalism
OPTION 1A: "We can make tons of @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@ off of this!" exclaims CEO of @@NAME@@ Mining Ltd., @@RANDOMNAME@@, while staring at the golden @@ANIMAL@@ statue on your desk. "If you would only allow my company and I to dig it up, I-I mean WE could make millions! We should allow people to mine and harvest whatever they want from historical sights! After all, what's worth more, some historical garbage or @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@?"

Result: companies loot their founders’ birthplaces

VALIDITY: does not have Capitalism
OPTION 1B: "@@NAME@@ can make tons of @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@ off of this!" exclaims your State Director of Mining, @@RANDOMNAME@@, while staring at the golden @@ANIMAL@@ statue on your desk. "Please, allow us to mine these jewels and give them to the state. While you're at it, allow people to mine and harvest whatever they want from historical sights and bring them to the government for an reward! After all, what's worth more, some historical garbage or @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@?"

Result: people raid government property to give it to the government

OPTION 2: "Get your hands off of my family heritage!" exclaims @@RANDOMNAME@@, a descendant of the first sacrificial leader of the Order of Violet. "Those jewels are sacred to my dear family and the Violetist community as a whole, preserved from the times of Queen Amethyst Lavendar I! You must give them over to us, or Violet will get her revenge!"
Result: @@NAME@@‘s most used excuse is ‘Because Violet said’

VALIDITY: must not have No Immigration
OPTION 3: "Why can't we just leave the jewels and the ancient capital the way they are?" remarks @@RANDOMNAME@@, your Minister of Tourism. "Where would the money come from? Tourism! We need to open up the area to tourists! Build amusement parks, coffee shops, and restaurants around the area, and let the money roll into our @@TYPE@@!"

Result: the entirety of @@NAME@@ is a tourist attraction

The problem here is that you totally skip over the fact that the explorer was assaulted. I’d probably leave that part out, and maybe just say that they had a stroke, or something.
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Postby La xinga » Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:39 am

Minskiev wrote:Red will be edits, green will be questions.

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VALIDITY: Must not have Atheism
THE ISSUE: After two centuries of conspiracies and mysteries, explorer @@RANDOMNAME@@ has found the ancient capital of the Order of Violet The Order of Violet is a religion, not a state. Perhaps this could be of an ancient Violetist state? in the forests of @@NAME@@, along with piles of jewels in its temple center. After the explorer was attacked in @@HIS@@ home last night by unknown figures, @@DEMONYMPLURAL@@ across the nation have been calling for you to intervene.

VALIDITY: has Capitalism
OPTION 1A: "We can make tons of @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@ off of this!" exclaims CEO of @@NAME@@ Mining Ltd., @@RANDOMNAME@@, while staring at the golden @@ANIMAL@@ statue on your desk. "If you would only allow my company and I to dig it up, I-I mean WE could make millions! We should allow people to mine and harvest whatever they want from historical sights! After all, what's worth more, some historical garbage or @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@?"

Result: companies loot their founders’ birthplaces

VALIDITY: does not have Capitalism
OPTION 1B: "@@NAME@@ can make tons of @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@ off of this!" exclaims your State Director of Mining, @@RANDOMNAME@@, while staring at the golden @@ANIMAL@@ statue on your desk. "Please, allow us to mine these jewels and give them to the state. While you're at it, allow people to mine and harvest whatever they want from historical sights and bring them to the government for an reward! After all, what's worth more, some historical garbage or @@CURRENCYPLURAL@@?"

Result: people raid government property to give it to the government

OPTION 2: "Get your hands off of my family heritage!" exclaims @@RANDOMNAME@@, a descendant of the first sacrificial leader of the Order of Violet. "Those jewels are sacred to my dear family and the Violetist community as a whole, preserved from the times of Queen Amethyst Lavendar I! You must give them over to us, or Violet will get her revenge!"
Result: @@NAME@@‘s most used excuse is ‘Because Violet said’

VALIDITY: must not have No Immigration
OPTION 3: "Why can't we just leave the jewels and the ancient capital the way they are?" remarks @@RANDOMNAME@@, your Minister of Tourism. "Where would the money come from? Tourism! We need to open up the area to tourists! Build amusement parks, coffee shops, and restaurants around the area, and let the money roll into our @@TYPE@@!"

Result: the entirety of @@NAME@@ is a tourist attraction

The problem here is that you totally skip over the fact that the explorer was assaulted. I’d probably leave that part out, and maybe just say that they had a stroke, or something.

Drasina did say this is valid for Atheist nations too, since it's more of a descendant-of type of thing. And the assaulted part was used to show that there is controversy. Stroke will not signal anyone cares about it, since no people were involved.

And on the immigration call, is tourism included?
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Postby Minskiev » Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:26 am

Hmm, alright then.

The thing is, there IS no controversy about the explorer being assaulted. They’re not mentioned any other time in the issue. If they had a stroke, then the treasure they found would still be available and you don’t have to include assailants in your issue.

Well, the policy says that foreigners can’t become residents, so assuming tourists aren’t homeless, no.
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Postby La xinga » Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:30 am

Minskiev wrote:Hmm, alright then.

The thing is, there IS no controversy about the explorer being assaulted. They’re not mentioned any other time in the issue. If they had a stroke, then the treasure they found would still be available and you don’t have to include assailants in your issue.

Well, the policy says that foreigners can’t become residents, so assuming tourists aren’t homeless, no.

I edited the DISC in concern to the assault part.
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Postby The Supreme Vatican Caliphate » Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:38 am

He did from a heart attack?

Also, that kind of seems a little...strangely put. Maybe remove the bit about how he has no family, and possibly add an option from a family member?

Also, the transition from ‘he found treasure’ to ‘he died’ is a little abrupt. Maybe add a ‘Sadly,’ in there.

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Postby La xinga » Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:51 am

The Supreme Vatican Caliphate wrote:He did from a heart attack?

Also, that kind of seems a little...strangely put. Maybe remove the bit about how he has no family, and possibly add an option from a family member?

Also, the transition from ‘he found treasure’ to ‘he died’ is a little abrupt. Maybe add a ‘Sadly,’ in there.

I mean, yeah, I'll change it to cardiac arrest.

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Postby The Supreme Vatican Caliphate » Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:37 am

La xinga wrote:
The Supreme Vatican Caliphate wrote:He did from a heart attack?

Also, that kind of seems a little...strangely put. Maybe remove the bit about how he has no family, and possibly add an option from a family member?

Also, the transition from ‘he found treasure’ to ‘he died’ is a little abrupt. Maybe add a ‘Sadly,’ in there.

I mean, yeah, I'll change it to cardiac arrest.

And if he had family, it would be obvious! Give the jewels to the family!


Well, how can somebody have absolutely no family? Immediate family, maybe not, but what about distant?

And it wouldn’t be so obvious, because first, for the family to get there, they’d have to go through the possibly perilous journey that the explorer took.

But what if the government or a private company retrieved it for them? Well, why are there government and private company representatives talking to you about seizing it, then?

And then what about the Violetists? Wouldn’t they try to get it?

It’s not obvious.

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The Supreme Vatican Caliphate wrote:
La xinga wrote:I mean, yeah, I'll change it to cardiac arrest.

And if he had family, it would be obvious! Give the jewels to the family!


Well, how can somebody have absolutely no family? Immediate family, maybe not, but what about distant?

And it wouldn’t be so obvious, because first, for the family to get there, they’d have to go through the possibly perilous journey that the explorer took.

But what if the government or a private company retrieved it for them? Well, why are there government and private company representatives talking to you about seizing it, then?

And then what about the Violetists? Wouldn’t they try to get it?

It’s not obvious.

I see your point, I do, I think I'll wait for a 3rd party opinion.
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:18 am

THE ISSUE: After two centuries of conspiracies and mysteries, explorer @@RANDOMNAME@@ has found the ancient capital of an ancient Violetist nation in the forests of @@NAME@@, along with piles of jewels in its temple center. Sadly, @@HE@@ did from a cardiac arrest that night after celebrating, and since @@HE@@ has no family, @@DENONYMPLURAL@@ across the nation have been calling for you to intervene on what to do with the jewels.


I'm not sure this issue premise covers anything that hasn't already been covered by Issue 49. It's essentially just asking the same question: what's the procedure for found historic treasure?

For sure, there's a religious angle here too, but that's not enough to make it unique.
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