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by Gormwood » Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:20 am
by The Two Jerseys » Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:27 am
by San Lumen » Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:33 am
The Two Jerseys wrote:San Lumen wrote:Prove it
Prove that people who live in suburban Orange County have greater access to food and security with supermarkets every other block and multiple police departments covering the county than people in rural northern California who rely on guns to hunt their food, protect livestock from predators, and defend themselves and their property from criminals because the police are half an hour away?
It's called "common sense".
by The Two Jerseys » Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:38 am
San Lumen wrote:The Two Jerseys wrote:Prove that people who live in suburban Orange County have greater access to food and security with supermarkets every other block and multiple police departments covering the county than people in rural northern California who rely on guns to hunt their food, protect livestock from predators, and defend themselves and their property from criminals because the police are half an hour away?
It's called "common sense".
That’s what happens when you reside in a rural area
by Thermodolia » Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:40 am
Gormwood wrote:So now we're trying to promote gun proliferation.
by Thermodolia » Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:42 am
San Lumen wrote:The Two Jerseys wrote:Prove that people who live in suburban Orange County have greater access to food and security with supermarkets every other block and multiple police departments covering the county than people in rural northern California who rely on guns to hunt their food, protect livestock from predators, and defend themselves and their property from criminals because the police are half an hour away?
It's called "common sense".
That’s what happens when you reside in a rural area
by The Two Jerseys » Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:42 am
by Ors Might » Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:52 am
by Gormwood » Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:53 am
The Two Jerseys wrote:Thermodolia wrote:We should. The workers deserve to be armed. A shit ton of armed workers is harder to bully than unarmed workers
Armed blacks are harder to bully than unarmed blacks.
Armed gays are harder to bully than unarmed gays.
Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Everybody wins!
by Ors Might » Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:55 am
by Thermodolia » Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:59 am
by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:59 am
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.
by Sundiata » Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:22 am
by Nuroblav » Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:52 am
Sundiata wrote:I'm a practicing Catholic.
Personally speaking, I would not feel comfortable doing the videography for their wedding because their marriage ceremony is blatantly not sacramental. However, I would do my part to refer them to another videographer who would serve them.
People who experience same-sex attraction are still people and as such, they deserve to be treated with a kind heart and patient spirit.
by Sundiata » Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:01 am
Nuroblav wrote:Sundiata wrote:I'm a practicing Catholic.
Personally speaking, I would not feel comfortable doing the videography for their wedding because their marriage ceremony is blatantly not sacramental. However, I would do my part to refer them to another videographer who would serve them.
People who experience same-sex attraction are still people and as such, they deserve to be treated with a kind heart and patient spirit.
Fair enough. Personally I don't see how a bit of filming of a same-day wedding would as such cause any suffering, but there you go.
by Thermodolia » Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:54 am
Sundiata wrote:Nuroblav wrote:Fair enough. Personally I don't see how a bit of filming of a same-day wedding would as such cause any suffering, but there you go.
My decision to adhere to the tenets of my faith doesn't revolve around suffering for me, at least not solely. It revolves around aligning my conduct with God's will as expressed through the Bible, the Catechism, as well as Catholic tradition.
God is near to people who experience same-sex attraction.
by Nuroblav » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:02 am
Thermodolia wrote:I really don’t think the last part is true at all
by Gormwood » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:06 am
Nuroblav wrote:Thermodolia wrote:I really don’t think the last part is true at all
The general idea around homosexuality in Catholicism (as far as I know) is that being gay is fine, but not gay marriage. Therefore they must remain celibate. Then again, it seems a lot of the more fundamentalist side of things skip the 'being gay is fine' part anyway
by Thermodolia » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:10 am
Gormwood wrote:Nuroblav wrote:The general idea around homosexuality in Catholicism (as far as I know) is that being gay is fine, but not gay marriage. Therefore they must remain celibate. Then again, it seems a lot of the more fundamentalist side of things skip the 'being gay is fine' part anyway
Funny why that bothers them. Marriage isn't a finite resource and LGBTs getting married won't spontaneously turn people gay.
by Nuroblav » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:21 am
Gormwood wrote:Funny why that bothers them. Marriage isn't a finite resource and LGBTs getting married won't spontaneously turn people gay.
by Sundiata » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:31 am
Thermodolia wrote:Sundiata wrote:My decision to adhere to the tenets of my faith doesn't revolve around suffering for me, at least not solely. It revolves around aligning my conduct with God's will as expressed through the Bible, the Catechism, as well as Catholic tradition.
God is near to people who experience same-sex attraction.
I really don’t think the last part is true at all
by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:32 am
Gormwood wrote:Nuroblav wrote:The general idea around homosexuality in Catholicism (as far as I know) is that being gay is fine, but not gay marriage. Therefore they must remain celibate. Then again, it seems a lot of the more fundamentalist side of things skip the 'being gay is fine' part anyway
Funny why that bothers them. Marriage isn't a finite resource and LGBTs getting married won't spontaneously turn people gay.
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.
by Gormwood » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:33 am
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Gormwood wrote:Funny why that bothers them. Marriage isn't a finite resource and LGBTs getting married won't spontaneously turn people gay.
They've addressed this. The main point is procreation-centric, which often crops up even in the religious context, and explains conservative stances on everything from contraceptives to "dog moms." You can agree or disagree with their reasoning, but that doesn't justify strawmanning it.
by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:38 am
Gormwood wrote:LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:They've addressed this. The main point is procreation-centric, which often crops up even in the religious context, and explains conservative stances on everything from contraceptives to "dog moms." You can agree or disagree with their reasoning, but that doesn't justify strawmanning it.
"If you can't breed you can't marry." A rather disingenuous argument that conveniently excuses the infertile.
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.
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