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by Minskiev » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:09 pm
by San Lumen » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:24 pm
Kyundao wrote:San Lumen wrote:So you think it would be fair for Republicans to always win statewide elections because they win more land area
Every ballot we get here has several pieces of legislation, which are not good most of the time. Combine those kinds of ballots with majority rule and you get the situation I'm in.
by San Lumen » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:25 pm
Christian Confederation wrote:I'm not going to let a handful of leftist cities decide the fate of the rest of us. I'd rather wall off Atlanta and let them become a city state before I let them decide what happens to my state. The Democrats can't rule by mob, the rest of us won't stand for it.
by Luziyca » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:34 pm
Minskiev wrote:This is pretty stupid. The extremists will just do another Bleeding Kansas again and move to the least populated parts and vote, to get who they want into power. This just gives unfair advantages to those who managed to be born in the less populated parts. Can’t we just have a universal equal vote?
by Rusozak » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:34 pm
San Lumen wrote:Christian Confederation wrote:I'm not going to let a handful of leftist cities decide the fate of the rest of us. I'd rather wall off Atlanta and let them become a city state before I let them decide what happens to my state. The Democrats can't rule by mob, the rest of us won't stand for it.
Why should a vote in Atlanta count less than a vote of someone on a farm?
How would you two systems proposal work? It’s simply not practical
by Minskiev » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:45 pm
by Thermodolia » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:46 pm
San Lumen wrote:Christian Confederation wrote:I'm not going to let a handful of leftist cities decide the fate of the rest of us. I'd rather wall off Atlanta and let them become a city state before I let them decide what happens to my state. The Democrats can't rule by mob, the rest of us won't stand for it.
Why should a vote in Atlanta count less than a vote of someone on a farm?
How would you two systems proposal work? It’s simply not practical
by Necroghastia » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:47 pm
People are fleeing California and New York because Democrats ran them into the ground,
We have a right to decide who leads us.
The Democrats think they can run everything because they have the cities, but they forget it's us deplorables in the county that insure the shelves are stocked and they don't starve. If they don't remember that and treat us right we may have to remind them who controls the food.
by Necroghastia » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:50 pm
Christian Confederation wrote:Alcala-Cordel wrote:The popular vote isn't "mob rule", it's a system of popular support that basically every other democracy uses. Who cares if a lot of the population lives in cities, it's still people voting. Proponents have so many hypotheticals (wHaT iF tHe MaJoRiTy iS OpPrEsSiVe) that ignore the fact that unpopular leaders are generally more oppressive, but there really is no reason.
The electoral college is counterproductive to democracy locally and nationally.
We need to separate into 2 systems one Country. The Democrats can run there cities into the ground whall the rest of us go about our business and stop being there farm.
by Liriena » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:50 pm
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by Liriena » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:54 pm
Minskiev wrote:This is pretty stupid. The extremists will just do another Bleeding Kansas again and move to the least populated parts and vote, to get who they want into power. This just gives unfair advantages to those who managed to be born in the less populated parts. Can’t we just have a universal equal vote?
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by The Reformed American Republic » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:55 pm
Third ZSeparatists wrote:The Reformed American Republic wrote:No, this is a blatant attempt to prevent any other party from getting the governorship. There is no evidence that small areas of Texas are not well represented.
There are Republican cities in addition to Democratic ones, and that also allows them to win with the small areas also voting for Republicans. In Texas, small areas have such a low population that they need to rely on other cities to help them. Only a few can go a long way.
by New haven america » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:56 pm
Liriena wrote:The GOP is an authoritarian party, so this is on brand for them. In an ideal world, they would be disbanded in shame. Or they'd get roundhouse kicked by Zombie Thaddeus Stevens.
by Liriena » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:56 pm
Christian Confederation wrote:Necroghastia wrote:It's their state too, you know.
Doesn't mean they have a right to tell the rest of us what to do. People are fleeing California and New York because Democrats ran them into the ground, We have a right to decide who leads us. The Democrats think they can run everything because they have the cities, but they forget it's us deplorables in the county that insure the shelves are stocked and they don't starve. If they don't remember that and treat us right we may have to remind them who controls the food.
I am: A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist An aspiring writer and journalist | Political compass stuff: Economic Left/Right: -8.13 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92 For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism, cynicism ⚧Copy and paste this in your sig if you passed biology and know gender and sex aren't the same thing.⚧ |
by Liriena » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:58 pm
New haven america wrote:Liriena wrote:The GOP is an authoritarian party, so this is on brand for them. In an ideal world, they would be disbanded in shame. Or they'd get roundhouse kicked by Zombie Thaddeus Stevens.
You know, when you think about it, authoritarianism is quite a submissive ideology.
A lot of supporters of it don't want to have the power to do anything and want big daddy government to handle stuff and tell them what they want.
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by Kyundao » Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:00 pm
by Thermodolia » Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:00 pm
New haven america wrote:Liriena wrote:The GOP is an authoritarian party, so this is on brand for them. In an ideal world, they would be disbanded in shame. Or they'd get roundhouse kicked by Zombie Thaddeus Stevens.
You know, when you think about it, authoritarianism is quite a submissive ideology in most of the times it's practiced.
A lot of supporters of it don't want to have the power to do anything and want big daddy government to handle stuff and tell them what they want.
by The Reformed American Republic » Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:00 pm
by New haven america » Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:02 pm
Thermodolia wrote:New haven america wrote:You know, when you think about it, authoritarianism is quite a submissive ideology in most of the times it's practiced.
A lot of supporters of it don't want to have the power to do anything and want big daddy government to handle stuff and tell them what they want.
UwU punish me harder daddy government.
by Thermodolia » Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:02 pm
Kyundao wrote:San Lumen wrote:That’s how’s democracy works. Ones zip code should not determine the value of your vote
Of course that's how democracy works. It goes to shit in practice as usual. If people are going to pass any legislation, they should do it in the state congress and senate like they're supposed to, not through some periodic ballot.
Judge not by theory, but by practice.
PS: the US is a republic, not a democracy.
by The Reformed American Republic » Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:03 pm
by New haven america » Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:03 pm
Kyundao wrote:San Lumen wrote:That’s how’s democracy works. Ones zip code should not determine the value of your vote
Of course that's how democracy works. It goes to shit in practice as usual. If people are going to pass any legislation, they should do it in the state congress and senate like they're supposed to, not through some periodic ballot.
Judge not by theory, but by practice.
PS: the US is a republic, not a democracy.
by Thermodolia » Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:05 pm
The Reformed American Republic wrote:If people are so worried about tyranny of the majority, maybe we can agree to a certain amount of devolution, not subjecting a majority to the whims of a partisan minority.
by New haven america » Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:06 pm
The Reformed American Republic wrote:If people are so worried about tyranny of the majority, maybe we can agree to a certain amount of devolution, not subjecting a majority to the whims of a partisan minority.
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