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by Minskiev » Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:52 am
by Sarderia » Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:01 am
Minskiev wrote:Sarderia, you need to stop calling other lore unrealistic when yours is questioned. It’s a logical fallacy.
On your response to the question of your lore, I honestly don’t know too much about it, so no argument there.
by Mathuvan Union » Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:06 am
Sarderia wrote:Minskiev wrote:Sarderia, you need to stop calling other lore unrealistic when yours is questioned. It’s a logical fallacy.
On your response to the question of your lore, I honestly don’t know too much about it, so no argument there.
You seems to point "logical fallacy" everywhere I made an argument, while I believe you have not discovered the meaning of that sentence yet. On Serbia-Macedonia's RP you called me the same, yet you did not respond when I pointed out your use of "logical fallacy" is false. Please do not spew out the word liberally when you doesn't know what it means.
I am pointing out at the fact the Co-OP scrutinized my app for supposedly being unrealistic, while their own app has several unrealistic factors as well. If I am avoiding the argument, or making a logical fallacy, I wouldn't bother to respond the Co-OP's argument that Venezuela "do not want to be an American colony", yet I responded, using historical facts as well.
by Minskiev » Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:08 am
by Sarderia » Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:09 am
Mathuvan Union wrote:Sarderia wrote:You seems to point "logical fallacy" everywhere I made an argument, while I believe you have not discovered the meaning of that sentence yet. On Serbia-Macedonia's RP you called me the same, yet you did not respond when I pointed out your use of "logical fallacy" is false. Please do not spew out the word liberally when you doesn't know what it means.
I am pointing out at the fact the Co-OP scrutinized my app for supposedly being unrealistic, while their own app has several unrealistic factors as well. If I am avoiding the argument, or making a logical fallacy, I wouldn't bother to respond the Co-OP's argument that Venezuela "do not want to be an American colony", yet I responded, using historical facts as well.
They can be a puppet state. Take it or leave it.
It’s highly unlikely that Venezuela would actually like being in the US, both right now and 70 years ago.
by Fennoscandia Union » Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:09 am
Fennoscandia Union wrote:Fennoscandia Union wrote:Country Name: Fourth Brazilian Republic
Fictional or Real: Real
Head of State: Eurico Gaspar Dutra
Government Type: Multi-Party Republic
Capital: Rio de Janeiro
GDP: $13 billion
Population: 52 million
Location: Historical Brazil
History: RL History
Faction: Non-Aligned
Can I change my history to: History: RL History until 1947 where the Salte Plan receives a significant amount of funding from the budget after it was proposed.
Liberate Hong Kong, revolution of our times
by Mathuvan Union » Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:10 am
Minskiev wrote:I’m not spewing it out without knowing what it means. You constantly state the same old tu quoque fallacy. It means you also, because as defense, you bring up something about somebody often instead of refuting the claim. This time, you did refute the claim, but you didn’t last time, and you still brought up stuff about someone else.
A logical fallacy is a flaw in logic. For example, using a tu quoque fallacy:
Nicole identified that Hannah had committed a logical fallacy, but instead of addressing the substance of her claim, Hannah accused Nicole of committing a fallacy earlier on in the conversation.
This circumstance would be Monsone identified that Sarderia had illogical lore, but with addressing the lore, Sarderia accused Hypercapital of illogical lore earlier on in the discussion.
by Mathuvan Union » Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:10 am
by Fennoscandia Union » Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:11 am
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by Sarderia » Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:11 am
Minskiev wrote:I’m not spewing it out without knowing what it means. You constantly state the same old tu quoque fallacy. It means you also, because as defense, you bring up something about somebody often instead of refuting the claim. This time, you did refute the claim, but you didn’t last time, and you still brought up stuff about someone else.
A logical fallacy is a flaw in logic. For example, using a tu quoque fallacy:
Nicole identified that Hannah had committed a logical fallacy, but instead of addressing the substance of her claim, Hannah accused Nicole of committing a fallacy earlier on in the conversation.
This circumstance would be Monsone identified that Sarderia had illogical lore, but with addressing the lore, Sarderia accused Hypercapital of illogical lore earlier on in the discussion.
by Mathuvan Union » Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:11 am
Sarderia wrote:Mathuvan Union wrote:They can be a puppet state. Take it or leave it.
It’s highly unlikely that Venezuela would actually like being in the US, both right now and 70 years ago.
Puerto Rico was highly unlikely actually like being in the US as well come the Spanish-American war, yet they seek statehood until now
Regardless, I am not looking to bring Giovenith here as well, so a puppet state it is then. Please color with the American colors as well on the map.
by Minskiev » Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:12 am
Mathuvan Union wrote:Minskiev wrote:I’m not spewing it out without knowing what it means. You constantly state the same old tu quoque fallacy. It means you also, because as defense, you bring up something about somebody often instead of refuting the claim. This time, you did refute the claim, but you didn’t last time, and you still brought up stuff about someone else.
A logical fallacy is a flaw in logic. For example, using a tu quoque fallacy:
Nicole identified that Hannah had committed a logical fallacy, but instead of addressing the substance of her claim, Hannah accused Nicole of committing a fallacy earlier on in the conversation.
This circumstance would be Monsone identified that Sarderia had illogical lore, but with addressing the lore, Sarderia accused Hypercapital of illogical lore earlier on in the discussion.
Guys, if this goes to far, I’m banning you for the rest of the day. This doesn’t have to turn into argument.
by Monsone » Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:35 am
Sarderia wrote:True, but Venezuela is also the first region to secede from Gran Colombia. Even at the first years of Gran Colombia, José Antonio Páez, the Commandant General of Venezuela, often clashed with Bolivar (the nation's leader whose residence is in Colombia most of the time). Bolivar himself prepared to march to Venezuela to supress the separatists in 1826. Suffice to say, "nationalist" identities doesn't matter too much now - Venezuela in this RP has the same degree of autonomy Puerto Rico had in our world this time, with Venezuelan citizens being US citizens.
Also, if we want to talk about realism, France shouldn't have owned Lebanon on 1950, because the French bombing of Damascus backfired into a British-founded retaliation by Syrians, and thus ousting any remnant of French presence in the Middle East. Lebanon also was a founding UN member state, so the League of Nations member status was officially terminated.
by Farnhamia » Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:34 pm
by Fennoscandia Union » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:45 pm
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by Wasi State » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:50 pm
Fennoscandia Union wrote:So are we waiting for others to join or has the RP already started.
by Bolslania » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:51 pm
by HypErcApitAl » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:53 pm
Monsone wrote:Mathuvan Union wrote:I assume that Korea didn’t split up?
Monsone is this a rule violation?
Not really. Korea should have remained united, and there is only a Korean people (North and South Korea are just nationalities). Plus it is a pretty minor change that might delete the Korean war, but gives the USSR a western aligned nation on it's border, which is likely enough to start something similar to the Korean war. Or the solution is the Communist Party of Vanguard is controlled by the USSR and the Korean Peoples army is still a thing. I also thing joining NATO is a no, since the USA would create SEATO for Asia.
by Fennoscandia Union » Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:00 pm
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by Monsone » Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:03 pm
Fennoscandia Union wrote:I think the US should create the WTO as soon as they get the opportunity. Like if the Soviets expand their sphere of influence in Asia, Latin America, or Africa. I think the US has adjusted their history to get large parts of the Caribbean and South America, just so they can limit the Soviets in expanding their sphere of influence in Latin America, and the prevent Latin American communist states, especially one in Cuba.
by HypErcApitAl » Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:05 pm
Fennoscandia Union wrote:I think the US should create the WTO as soon as they get the opportunity. Like if the Soviets expand their sphere of influence in Asia, Latin America, or Africa. I think the US has adjusted their history to get large parts of the Caribbean and South America, just so they can limit the Soviets in expanding their sphere of influence in Latin America, and the prevent Latin American communist states, especially one in Cuba.
by Fennoscandia Union » Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:07 pm
Liberate Hong Kong, revolution of our times
by Wasi State » Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:09 pm
by Fennoscandia Union » Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:11 pm
Liberate Hong Kong, revolution of our times
by Minskiev » Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:15 pm
Fennoscandia Union wrote:If China is nationalist and not communist, I don't see a reason to create the WTO instead of NATO, but I do believe if China is communist, that the Soviet Union and China will attempt to expand their sphere of influence in Asia, especially South Asia and East Asia, and the WTO will be helpful in protecting Asia better than was done in our timeline.
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