by Sundiata » Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:16 am
by Nuroblav » Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:21 am
by Rojava Free State » Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:22 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Bear Stearns » Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:23 am
by Rojava Free State » Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:23 am
Nuroblav wrote:Not a big fan of his music at all (may I also add that I don't see cursing in music as a bad thing as such, but that's for another time) but otherwise a decent guy in my opinion.
I don't think they'll be a decrease in social mobility, considering how connectivity is becoming more prominent. Then again it's hard to tell - as you say capital is more focused at the top now, particularly in media. Those are my thoughts.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Sundiata » Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:29 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Nuroblav wrote:Not a big fan of his music at all (may I also add that I don't see cursing in music as a bad thing as such, but that's for another time) but otherwise a decent guy in my opinion.
I don't think they'll be a decrease in social mobility, considering how connectivity is becoming more prominent. Then again it's hard to tell - as you say capital is more focused at the top now, particularly in media. Those are my thoughts.
His rhymes are basic as fuck.
by Rojava Free State » Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:12 pm
Sundiata wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:
His rhymes are basic as fuck.
I think he demonstrated, and still demonstrates extremely well that you can express yourself masterfully without using curse words.
Now I've got a story that I'd like to tell. It's bout this guy named Fred he had me scared so well. He's not home when I'm awake but he shows up when I sleep. I didn't know there'd be a nightmare on my street.
This is the point of no return, nigga you better believe this. Mary Magdalene giving birth to the children of Jesus. The evolution of the world, bloody and dramatic. Human beings killed monkeys to conquer the planet. The kingdoms of Africa and Mesopotamia. Machine gunning your body with depleted uranium. This is the age of microchips and titanium. The dark side of the moon, and contact with aliens. I started out like Australians, criminal minded. Broke into hell, tore it down and built a city behind it. Southpaw, murderous. Methodology nigga. Remember that I'm just a man, don't follow me nigga. Cause once you've passed the point you can never go home, you gotta face the possibility of dying alone, so tell me motherfucker. How could you die for the throne, when you don't even got the fucking heart to die for your own?
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Farnhamia » Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:28 pm
Sundiata wrote:I appreciate Will Smith.
He rose from poverty to become a highly successful husband, father, and entertainer. As a cultural influence, I think that his impact has generally been positive. I know that he avoided cursing in his music at a time when that was very frequent in the genre he performed in. As an actor, he was able to present a ground-breaking image of Black America in a time when much of the media surrounding this community wasn't so positive. As his career progressed, he continued to succeed in his endeavors.
Economist Thomas Pikkety posited that capital is moving in an upward direction and being concentrated at the top. But just because this trend is occurring doesn't mean that we simultaneously can't end poverty and other forms of unecessary suffering. Essentially, while there is wealth inequality it doesn't necessarily have to mean the death of social mobility.
Do you think that the future is going to see more upward success stories like Will Smith or less examples of social mobility?
Smith was born on September 25, 1968 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to Caroline (née Bright), a Philadelphia school board administrator, and Willard Carroll Smith Sr.,[11][12] a U.S. Air Force veteran[13] and refrigeration engineer. He grew up in West Philadelphia's Wynnefield neighborhood,[14] and was raised Baptist.[15] He has an elder sister named Pamela and two younger siblings, twins Harry and Ellen.[14] Smith attended Our Lady of Lourdes, a private Catholic elementary school in Philadelphia.[16] His parents separated when he was 13,[17] but did not actually divorce until around 2000.[18]
Smith attended Overbrook High School.[16] While it has been widely reported that Smith turned down a scholarship to attend the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), he never applied to college because he "wanted to rap."[19] Smith says he was admitted to a "pre-engineering [summer] program" at MIT for high school students, but he did not attend.[18][20][21] According to Smith, "My mother, who worked for the School Board of Philadelphia, had a friend who was the admissions officer at MIT. I had pretty high SAT scores and they needed black kids, so I probably could have gotten in. But I had no intention of going to college."[22]
by Galloism » Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:36 pm
Farnhamia wrote:Sundiata wrote:I appreciate Will Smith.
He rose from poverty to become a highly successful husband, father, and entertainer. As a cultural influence, I think that his impact has generally been positive. I know that he avoided cursing in his music at a time when that was very frequent in the genre he performed in. As an actor, he was able to present a ground-breaking image of Black America in a time when much of the media surrounding this community wasn't so positive. As his career progressed, he continued to succeed in his endeavors.
Economist Thomas Pikkety posited that capital is moving in an upward direction and being concentrated at the top. But just because this trend is occurring doesn't mean that we simultaneously can't end poverty and other forms of unecessary suffering. Essentially, while there is wealth inequality it doesn't necessarily have to mean the death of social mobility.
Do you think that the future is going to see more upward success stories like Will Smith or less examples of social mobility?
Poverty? Wha ...?Smith was born on September 25, 1968 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to Caroline (née Bright), a Philadelphia school board administrator, and Willard Carroll Smith Sr.,[11][12] a U.S. Air Force veteran[13] and refrigeration engineer. He grew up in West Philadelphia's Wynnefield neighborhood,[14] and was raised Baptist.[15] He has an elder sister named Pamela and two younger siblings, twins Harry and Ellen.[14] Smith attended Our Lady of Lourdes, a private Catholic elementary school in Philadelphia.[16] His parents separated when he was 13,[17] but did not actually divorce until around 2000.[18]
Smith attended Overbrook High School.[16] While it has been widely reported that Smith turned down a scholarship to attend the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), he never applied to college because he "wanted to rap."[19] Smith says he was admitted to a "pre-engineering [summer] program" at MIT for high school students, but he did not attend.[18][20][21] According to Smith, "My mother, who worked for the School Board of Philadelphia, had a friend who was the admissions officer at MIT. I had pretty high SAT scores and they needed black kids, so I probably could have gotten in. But I had no intention of going to college."[22]
Solidly middle class, baby. If you're looking for someone to exemplify bootstraps and "up from poverty," do the basic research.
by Farnhamia » Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:37 pm
Galloism wrote:Farnhamia wrote:Poverty? Wha ...?
Solidly middle class, baby. If you're looking for someone to exemplify bootstraps and "up from poverty," do the basic research.
So wait, you're saying he was in West Philadelphia born and raised, on the playground is where he spent most of his days chilling out, maxing, relaxing all cool and all shooting some b-ball outside of the school?
by Galloism » Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:39 pm
by The Two Jerseys » Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:40 pm
by Farnhamia » Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:41 pm
The Two Jerseys wrote:Yet he still won't admit that he and Jada have an open marriage...
by USS Monitor » Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:45 pm
by Rojava Free State » Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:47 pm
Farnhamia wrote:Sundiata wrote:I appreciate Will Smith.
He rose from poverty to become a highly successful husband, father, and entertainer. As a cultural influence, I think that his impact has generally been positive. I know that he avoided cursing in his music at a time when that was very frequent in the genre he performed in. As an actor, he was able to present a ground-breaking image of Black America in a time when much of the media surrounding this community wasn't so positive. As his career progressed, he continued to succeed in his endeavors.
Economist Thomas Pikkety posited that capital is moving in an upward direction and being concentrated at the top. But just because this trend is occurring doesn't mean that we simultaneously can't end poverty and other forms of unecessary suffering. Essentially, while there is wealth inequality it doesn't necessarily have to mean the death of social mobility.
Do you think that the future is going to see more upward success stories like Will Smith or less examples of social mobility?
Poverty? Wha ...?Smith was born on September 25, 1968 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to Caroline (née Bright), a Philadelphia school board administrator, and Willard Carroll Smith Sr.,[11][12] a U.S. Air Force veteran[13] and refrigeration engineer. He grew up in West Philadelphia's Wynnefield neighborhood,[14] and was raised Baptist.[15] He has an elder sister named Pamela and two younger siblings, twins Harry and Ellen.[14] Smith attended Our Lady of Lourdes, a private Catholic elementary school in Philadelphia.[16] His parents separated when he was 13,[17] but did not actually divorce until around 2000.[18]
Smith attended Overbrook High School.[16] While it has been widely reported that Smith turned down a scholarship to attend the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), he never applied to college because he "wanted to rap."[19] Smith says he was admitted to a "pre-engineering [summer] program" at MIT for high school students, but he did not attend.[18][20][21] According to Smith, "My mother, who worked for the School Board of Philadelphia, had a friend who was the admissions officer at MIT. I had pretty high SAT scores and they needed black kids, so I probably could have gotten in. But I had no intention of going to college."[22]
Solidly middle class, baby. If you're looking for someone to exemplify bootstraps and "up from poverty," do the basic research.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Rojava Free State » Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:48 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by The Two Jerseys » Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:06 pm
by Chan Island » Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:06 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
by Nuroblav » Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:11 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Sundiata wrote:I think he demonstrated, and still demonstrates extremely well that you can express yourself masterfully without using curse words.Now I've got a story that I'd like to tell. It's bout this guy named Fred he had me scared so well. He's not home when I'm awake but he shows up when I sleep. I didn't know there'd be a nightmare on my street.
Contrast that with Immortal Technique who goes:This is the point of no return, nigga you better believe this. Mary Magdalene giving birth to the children of Jesus. The evolution of the world, bloody and dramatic. Human beings killed monkeys to conquer the planet. The kingdoms of Africa and Mesopotamia. Machine gunning your body with depleted uranium. This is the age of microchips and titanium. The dark side of the moon, and contact with aliens. I started out like Australians, criminal minded. Broke into hell, tore it down and built a city behind it. Southpaw, murderous. Methodology nigga. Remember that I'm just a man, don't follow me nigga. Cause once you've passed the point you can never go home, you gotta face the possibility of dying alone, so tell me motherfucker. How could you die for the throne, when you don't even got the fucking heart to die for your own?
Now, to be fair to Will Smith, most rap back in the early 1980s was pretty basic. It really wasn't till the late 80s during the golden age of hip hop that rap became much more complexed like it is today...I'm sorry I mean like it was in the 2000s because today most mainstream rap is actual shit. The stuff from the early 80s was basic but good music nonetheless, whereas alot of the stuff today like Icy Narco or Lil Pump is downright garbage. So in conclusion, Will Smith would be a basic rapper even if he said fuck and shit after every word.
I bomb atomically, Socrates' philosophies and hypotheses
Can't define how I be dropping these mockeries
Lyrically perform armed robbery
Flee with the lottery, possibly they spotted me
Battle-scarred Shogun, explosion when my pen hits tremendous
Ultraviolet shine blind forensics
I inspect you through the future see millennium
Killa Beez sold fifty gold, sixty platinum
Shackling the masses with drastic rap tactics
Graphic displays melt the steel like blacksmiths
Black Wu jackets, Queen Beez ease the guns in
Rumble with patrolmen, tear gas laced the function
Heads by the score take flight, incite a war
Chicks hit the floor, die hard fans demand more
Behold the bold soldier, control the globe slowly
Proceeds to blow, swinging swords like Shinobi
Stomp grounds and pound footprints in solid rock
Wu got it locked, performing live on your hottest block
by Saiwania » Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:36 pm
by Kowani » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:25 pm
by Sundiata » Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:10 pm
by Farnhamia » Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:15 pm
Sundiata wrote:Fixed poverty to humble circumstances.
by Greed and Death » Sat Jul 11, 2020 7:40 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Nuroblav wrote:Not a big fan of his music at all (may I also add that I don't see cursing in music as a bad thing as such, but that's for another time) but otherwise a decent guy in my opinion.
I don't think they'll be a decrease in social mobility, considering how connectivity is becoming more prominent. Then again it's hard to tell - as you say capital is more focused at the top now, particularly in media. Those are my thoughts.
His rhymes are basic as fuck.
by Rojava Free State » Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:03 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
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