by Staypuftonia » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:06 am
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Staypuftonia wrote:"I have only submitted this repeal, Honourable Ambassador. I will not submit the others yet."
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by Imperium Anglorum » Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:03 pm
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by Fluvannia » Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:19 pm
by Fluvannia » Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:21 pm
Imperium Anglorum wrote:The pro-life faction wants to repeal all the pro-choice legislation? I can't say I'm surprised.
by Union of Sovereign States and Republics » Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:22 pm
Fluvannia wrote:Imperium Anglorum wrote:The pro-life faction wants to repeal all the pro-choice legislation? I can't say I'm surprised.
Nothing in the repeal of #286 would criminalize abortion across the WA. Members would finally be free to pursue their own policy. I would suggest the Ambassador try again without intentionally mischaracterizing the arguments of his opponents, but based on past performance, that suggestion would fail on deaf ears...
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by Fluvannia » Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:24 pm
Union of Sovereign States and Republics wrote:Fluvannia wrote:
Nothing in the repeal of #286 would criminalize abortion across the WA. Members would finally be free to pursue their own policy. I would suggest the Ambassador try again without intentionally mischaracterizing the arguments of his opponents, but based on past performance, that suggestion would fail on deaf ears...
Ambassador, while the proposal may not criminalize abortion, it offers an obviously politically biased stance.
by Godular » Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:32 pm
by Kenmoria » Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:08 pm
Staypuftonia wrote:OOC: I know I may have pulled something illegal, but I cannot find the "Repeals" option when submitting it to the General Assembly.
by Imperium Anglorum » Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:25 pm
Fluvannia wrote:Imperium Anglorum wrote:The pro-life faction wants to repeal all the pro-choice legislation? I can't say I'm surprised.
Nothing in the repeal of #286 would criminalize abortion across the WA. Members would finally be free to pursue their own policy. I would suggest the Ambassador try again without intentionally mischaracterizing the arguments of his opponents, but based on past performance, that suggestion would fail on deaf ears...
by Separatist Peoples » Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:36 pm
Fluvannia wrote:Imperium Anglorum wrote:The pro-life faction wants to repeal all the pro-choice legislation? I can't say I'm surprised.
Nothing in the repeal of #286 would criminalize abortion across the WA. Members would finally be free to pursue their own policy. I would suggest the Ambassador try again without intentionally mischaracterizing the arguments of his opponents, but based on past performance, that suggestion would fail on deaf ears...
by Fluvannia » Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:56 pm
Separatist Peoples wrote:Fluvannia wrote:
Nothing in the repeal of #286 would criminalize abortion across the WA. Members would finally be free to pursue their own policy. I would suggest the Ambassador try again without intentionally mischaracterizing the arguments of his opponents, but based on past performance, that suggestion would fail on deaf ears...
Ooc: theres a lot to unpack here.
First, IA has been clearly acting ooc here. Let's not conflate that with roleplay.
Second, defy you to find a quote from Imperium anglorum that explicitly states this. Truly, the pro-life side has been the side with the most mischaracterizations in this process, especially of IA's work in A2A. Throwing stones. Glass houses.
by Separatist Peoples » Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:10 pm
Fluvannia wrote:Separatist Peoples wrote:Ooc: theres a lot to unpack here.
First, IA has been clearly acting ooc here. Let's not conflate that with roleplay.
Second, defy you to find a quote from Imperium anglorum that explicitly states this. Truly, the pro-life side has been the side with the most mischaracterizations in this process, especially of IA's work in A2A. Throwing stones. Glass houses.
OOC: Fair on the IC/OOC conflation, it does get murky.
As to mischaracterizations, there’s no glass in the way of the stones I’m throwing, so perhaps you were referring to someone else.
by Fluvannia » Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:22 pm
Separatist Peoples wrote:Fluvannia wrote:
OOC: Fair on the IC/OOC conflation, it does get murky.
As to mischaracterizations, there’s no glass in the way of the stones I’m throwing, so perhaps you were referring to someone else.
OOC: IA never made any argument that repealing GAR#286 will criminalize abortion. That is itself a mischaractarization. Lets not and say we didn't, hmm?
Imperium Anglorum wrote:The pro-life faction wants to repeal all the pro-choice legislation? I can't say I'm surprised.
by Separatist Peoples » Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:26 pm
Fluvannia wrote:Separatist Peoples wrote:OOC: IA never made any argument that repealing GAR#286 will criminalize abortion. That is itself a mischaractarization. Lets not and say we didn't, hmm?
He mischaracterized the goals of this resolutions author in the above thread.
For the unaware — and even more so for the willfully so:Imperium Anglorum wrote:The pro-life faction wants to repeal all the pro-choice legislation? I can't say I'm surprised.
by Fluvannia » Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:29 pm
Separatist Peoples wrote:Fluvannia wrote:
He mischaracterized the goals of this resolutions author in the above thread.
For the unaware — and even more so for the willfully so:
OOC: Its pretty clear that they do. They have no more incentive to leave it at national level than the pro-choice crowd does, unless they don't believe their own moral stance. The only real defense is that they lack the political capital to do so, which is simply not the case for the pro choice side.
by Godular » Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:32 pm
Fluvannia wrote:Separatist Peoples wrote:
OOC: Its pretty clear that they do. They have no more incentive to leave it at national level than the pro-choice crowd does, unless they don't believe their own moral stance. The only real defense is that they lack the political capital to do so, which is simply not the case for the pro choice side.
So you’re pretty openly declaring that you want to squish the opposition? Rather disturbing, but your own signature has some relevant advice.
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