[DRAFT] Commend Civil Defence Siren

[Madison and Wisconsin]

Hello to the Security Council!

Of Yeet Skeet Repeat and I are writing a Security Council resolution proposal to Commend Civil Defence Siren (OOC: Civil Defence Siren is the nation maintained by the Pacific regions to send telegrams to nations who join its list of fascist/Nazi regions).

Here is the proposal:

The Security Council,

NOTING that Civil Defence Siren has helped to protect nations who may join regions with fascist and Nazi idologies but don’t know that those regions have those ideologies,

ACKNOWLEDGING that many regions that Civil Defence Siren protects nations from joining have declined sharply in the number of nations, which may have partly been due to the hard work of Civil Defence Siren,

INSPIRED by the braveness that Civil Defence Siren shows in their protection of nations who move to fascist regions, despite the risks of fascist regions being very hostile towards Civil Defence Siren,

GLAD that nations have been saved from having to be exposed to offensive and disparaging practices that nations in fascist regions may have,

OVERJOYED that Civil Defence Siren has helped nations join welcoming regions where all are included, not in discriminatory regions full of bigotry and hate,

HEREBY COMMENDS Civil Defence Siren.

Co-authored by Madison and Wisconsin. (Or else Of Yeet Skeet Repeat, depending on who actually submits.)

Here is the original draft that Of Yeet Skeet Repeat wrote and submitted to the Security Council (which was ruled as illegal due to rules 3, 4B, and 4C).

Realizing, that The Civil Defence Siren helps protect nations from joining fascist regions
Acknowledging, that The Civil Defence Siren May sometimes mess up (the CDD is not facist)
Knowing, that The Civil Defence Siren May be a bot.
Knowing that if not a bot, The Civil Defence Siren has a very hard job.

Thank you for any feedback that you might have!

[Tinhampton]

CDS does not "protect" anybody from joining a particular region. Instead, it sends them automated telegrams upon arrival warning them of the dangers of fascism, etc.

[Madison and Wisconsin]

I used the word "protect" instead of the term "telegram" since I wasn't sure if that would end up being in-character due to the SC rules on things having to be IC and having to refer to the nation, not the player behind the nation. Do you think the word "telegram" would be okay?

[WayNeacTia]

No. The CCD is not going to buy a resolution, especially not one based on anti-fascism. It's not going to happen.

[Madison and Wisconsin]

I took a look at the Security Council rules thread and it says "Any term included within NationStates the game - eg. passwords, World Factbook Entries, founders, eject, 'black helicopters transporting nations between regions' - legal." So I guess that using the term "telegram" would be fine, thanks for mentioning it.

[Madison and Wisconsin]

No. The CCD is not going to buy a resolution, especially not one based on anti-fascism. It's not going to happen.

"Buy" as in (OOC) buying telegram stamps? Or do you mean "buy" as in support?

[WayNeacTia]

No. The CCD is not going to buy a resolution, especially not one based on anti-fascism. It's not going to happen.

"Buy" as in (OOC) buying telegram stamps? Or do you mean "buy" as in support?

As in telegram stamps. And trust me, they will try.

[Madison and Wisconsin]

You do have a good point, as honestly there aren't any reasons for this resolution, other than the telegrams it sends to nations joining the flagged regions. However, I think that the telegrams are helpful, as nations might join one of the flagged regions from somewhere such as a recruitment telegram, not knowing that that region has facist/Nazi ideologies.

It might also worth be pointing out that some of the flagged regions only have a few nations. Many of those did previously have a lot more nations, but they declined, which could have partially been due to the telegrams from CDS that were warning people about the ideology of the region they were entering. (There is also the possibility that military organizations from the regions that control CDS, such as the North Pacific Army, were raiding some of the regions that CDS flagged as fascist/Nazi.

[WayNeacTia]

You do have a good point, as honestly there aren't any reasons for this resolution, other than the telegrams it sends to nations joining the flagged regions. However, I think that the telegrams are helpful, as nations might join one of the flagged regions from somewhere such as a recruitment telegram, not knowing that that region has facist/Nazi ideologies.

And the only reason the CCD wants this to happens is either Joco or Shrew is having some dream that this will somehow get them removed from the CCD. I urge you not to step into this bear trap.

(There is also the possibility that military organizations from the regions that control CDS, such as the North Pacific Army, were raiding some of the regions that CDS flagged as fascist/Nazi.

I really don't think "possibility" is the correct word. More like absolutely. That's what happens to fascist regions. They get raided.

[Madison and Wisconsin]

I don’t think the CCD wants this to happen. As far as I know, there hasn’t been anyone involved in this except for Of Yeet Skeet Repeat and I.

My guess is that Shrew and Joco wouldn’t support this, but honestly I don’t think that either of them even know about this.

Is this a bear trap though?
Oof what have I walked into

[WayNeacTia]

I don’t think the CCD wants this to happen. As far as I know, there hasn’t been anyone involved in this except for Of Yeet Skeet Repeat and I.

My guess is that Shrew and Joco wouldn’t support this, but honestly I don’t think that either of them even know about this.

Is this a bear trap though?
Oof what have I walked into

Nothing comes out of the CCD without being run by either Joco or Shrew, I can assure you.

[Madison and Wisconsin]

I don’t think the CCD wants this to happen. As far as I know, there hasn’t been anyone involved in this except for Of Yeet Skeet Repeat and I.

My guess is that Shrew and Joco wouldn’t support this, but honestly I don’t think that either of them even know about this.

Is this a bear trap though?
Oof what have I walked into

Nothing comes out of the CCD without being run by either Joco or Shrew, I can assure you.

Not saying I don’t believe you, but I feel like if one of them saw it they would give some feedback on it since the original proposal had multiple rules that it didn’t follow (according to the SC Secretariat).

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

While the work of CDS is commendable, it's not Commendable if you see what I mean. In my opinion to be Commendable a nation or region should have had a major influence on the NS world over a long period of time. And while CDS is doing something worthwhile it's basically an automated bot. And to me that's not enough to award it a Commend.

Sorry, no support from me.

[Madison and Wisconsin]

The Security Council,

NOTING that Civil Defence Siren has notified nations who join regions with fascist and Nazi ideologies but don’t know that those regions have those ideologies,

ACKNOWLEDGING that many regions Civil Defence Siren alerts new nations in have declined sharply in the number of nations, which may have partly been due to the hard work of Civil Defence Siren,

INSPIRED by the braveness that Civil Defence Siren shows in their notifications to nations who move to fascist regions, despite the risks of fascist regions being very hostile towards Civil Defence Siren,

GLAD that nations have been saved from having to be exposed to offensive and disparaging practices that nations in fascist regions may have,

OVERJOYED that Civil Defence Siren has helped nations join welcoming regions where all are included, not in discriminatory regions full of bigotry and hate,

HEREBY COMMENDS Civil Defence Siren.

Co-authored by Madison and Wisconsin. (Or else Of Yeet Skeet Repeat, depending on who actually submits.)

Would this resolution would be legal? I read the rules and checked over everything and it looks fine, but the one thing I'm not sure about is the "notifications" or "alerts," but I guess a nation can do that (OOC: For example, if Nation A is bombing Nation B, and Nation C finds out, Nation C can alert Nation B).

[Refuge Isle]

INSPIRED by the braveness that Civil Defence Siren shows in their notifications to nations who move to fascist regions, despite the risks of fascist regions being very hostile towards Civil Defence Siren,

Regarding "in their notifications," you may get into trouble with this for a 4c violation. References to raw mechanical events or things that are clearly referring to the game as a game need some light RPing, imagining what they would be like in an "in character" world.

[WayNeacTia]

The Security Council,

NOTING that Civil Defence Siren has notified nations who join regions with fascist and Nazi ideologies but don’t know that those regions have those ideologies,

ACKNOWLEDGING that many regions Civil Defence Siren alerts new nations in have declined sharply in the number of nations, which may have partly been due to the hard work of Civil Defence Siren,

INSPIRED by the braveness that Civil Defence Siren shows in their notifications to nations who move to fascist regions, despite the risks of fascist regions being very hostile towards Civil Defence Siren,

GLAD that nations have been saved from having to be exposed to offensive and disparaging practices that nations in fascist regions may have,

OVERJOYED that Civil Defence Siren has helped nations join welcoming regions where all are included, not in discriminatory regions full of bigotry and hate,

HEREBY COMMENDS Civil Defence Siren.

Co-authored by Madison and Wisconsin. (Or else Of Yeet Skeet Repeat, depending on who actually submits.)

Would this resolution would be legal? I read the rules and checked over everything and it looks fine, but the one thing I'm not sure about is the "notifications" or "alerts," but I guess a nation can do that (OOC: For example, if Nation A is bombing Nation B, and Nation C finds out, Nation C can alert Nation B).

There is a very large difference between legal and you know...... Good.