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Postby HypErcApitAl » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:32 pm

Latvijas Otra Republika wrote:Talk show/podcast host libertarian is such a trope


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Latvijas Otra Republika wrote:Talk show/podcast host libertarian is such a trope


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If Alex Jones is a libertarian, then right-libertarians are fucked. They're fucked. They just are.
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Yeah that sounds like something Anders Breivik or Brenton Tarrant would write in his journal Dent is right
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Agarntrop wrote:Yeah that sounds like something Anders Breivik or Brenton Tarrant would write in his journal Dent is right

Porter's personality, although not very well fleshed out yet, probably leaked onto that stage. I got carried away with a few things, to say the least.
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Postby The Fair Republic » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:38 pm

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Latvijas Otra Republika wrote:Talk show/podcast host libertarian is such a trope


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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:39 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:Yeah that sounds like something Anders Breivik or Brenton Tarrant would write in his journal Dent is right

Porter's personality, although not very well fleshed out yet, probably leaked onto that stage. I got carried away with a few things, to say the least.


That's good! Means you're inhabiting the character! Good RP doesn't necessarily always mean good IC results.
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Hypercapital wrote:
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If Alex Jones is a libertarian, then right-libertarians are fucked. They're fucked. They just are.


libertarianism is already right-wing

(it's a breakaway ideology of Liberalism, but more pro-Capitalist and even leaning towards AnCap)

Liberalism was both Socially and Economically Liberal (Laissez-faire) but then Liberalists and other liberal ideologies split off, and then you also have Classical Liberalism/Classicism/ClaLib.

Classicists get labeled Libertarian (by leftists/far-leftists that can't tell the difference, I think b/c it's a counter to righties and every other non-leftist ideology not being able to tell the difference between DemSoc, SocDem and Communist-Socialist.) by Leftists.

Classicists aren't stans/simps for McCorporation tho.
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:43 pm

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Gordano and Lysandus wrote:As a heads up Hypercapital, you will have tremendous difficulty having much fun with a Libertarian character. The RP's quite reality-rooted, so a breakthrough candidacy is nigh-impossible, and you would have severely limited opportunities for interaction with other characters.


Shame. I could roll a Rep, but she'd come-off as "Too soft."

A Dem; she'd come-off as "Why is she a Democrat? She's too radical!"

I am open-minded and don't mind roleplaying a Dem-Rep char (though I feel like this game most-def need third-party representation)

I think you could definitely make a libertarian-esque conservative Democrat work
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Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:
Hypercapital wrote:
Shame. I could roll a Rep, but she'd come-off as "Too soft."

A Dem; she'd come-off as "Why is she a Democrat? She's too radical!"

I am open-minded and don't mind roleplaying a Dem-Rep char (though I feel like this game most-def need third-party representation)

I think you could definitely make a libertarian-esque conservative Democrat work


I think the term you're looking for is "Southern Democrat," and yeah. I agree.

I'll give her a political history of being third-party (I'll work on my IC reason as to why) just for Brownie/Internet points.
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:46 pm

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The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:If Alex Jones is a libertarian, then right-libertarians are fucked. They're fucked. They just are.


libertarianism is already right-wing

(it's a breakaway ideology of Liberalism, but more pro-Capitalist and even leaning towards AnCap)

Liberalism was both Socially and Economically Liberal (Laissez-faire) but then Liberalists and other liberal ideologies split off, and then you also have Classical Liberalism/Classicism/ClaLib.

Classicists get labeled Libertarian (by leftists/far-leftists that can't tell the difference, I think b/c it's a counter to righties and every other non-leftist ideology not being able to tell the difference between DemSoc, SocDem and Communist-Socialist.) by Leftists.

Classicists aren't stans/simps for McCorporation tho.

Are you Robespierre "power to the people" sort of Classical Liberal or the American sort of Classical Liberal with the whole inalienable rights thing.
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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:47 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Hypercapital wrote:
libertarianism is already right-wing

(it's a breakaway ideology of Liberalism, but more pro-Capitalist and even leaning towards AnCap)

Liberalism was both Socially and Economically Liberal (Laissez-faire) but then Liberalists and other liberal ideologies split off, and then you also have Classical Liberalism/Classicism/ClaLib.

Classicists get labeled Libertarian (by leftists/far-leftists that can't tell the difference, I think b/c it's a counter to righties and every other non-leftist ideology not being able to tell the difference between DemSoc, SocDem and Communist-Socialist.) by Leftists.

Classicists aren't stans/simps for McCorporation tho.

Are you Robespierre "power to the people" sort of Classical Liberal or the American sort of Classical Liberal with the whole inalienable rights thing.


Ah yes. Robespierre. Well known for his belief in freedom.
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Postby The Fair Republic » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:48 pm

Gordano and Lysandus wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Are you Robespierre "power to the people" sort of Classical Liberal or the American sort of Classical Liberal with the whole inalienable rights thing.


Ah yes. Robespierre. Well known for his belief in freedom.


Do you mean his belief in the freedom to use the guillotine?
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Postby Sanabel » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:49 pm

We could have a Libertarian candidate for president but they could only be a minor officeholder or non-officeholder
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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:49 pm

The Fair Republic wrote:
Gordano and Lysandus wrote:
Ah yes. Robespierre. Well known for his belief in freedom.


Do you mean his belief in the freedom to use the guillotine?


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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:51 pm

Gordano and Lysandus wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Are you Robespierre "power to the people" sort of Classical Liberal or the American sort of Classical Liberal with the whole inalienable rights thing.


Ah yes. Robespierre. Well known for his belief in freedom.

Well, the ideals of the French Revolution were significantly more free than the ideals of any other major nation at the time.
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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:52 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Gordano and Lysandus wrote:
Ah yes. Robespierre. Well known for his belief in freedom.

Well, the ideals of the French Revolution were significantly more free than the ideals of any other major nation at the time.


Suddenly, Napoleon.
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Postby New Cobastheia » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:53 pm

Hypercapital wrote:
Gordano and Lysandus wrote:As a heads up Hypercapital, you will have tremendous difficulty having much fun with a Libertarian character. The RP's quite reality-rooted, so a breakthrough candidacy is nigh-impossible, and you would have severely limited opportunities for interaction with other characters.


Shame. I could roll a Rep, but she'd come-off as "Too soft."

A Dem; she'd come-off as "Why is she a Democrat? She's too radical!"

I am open-minded and don't mind roleplaying a Dem-Rep char (though I feel like this game most-def need third-party representation)

What's the policy that would make them come off as either too soft or too radical?

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Postby Kargintina the Third » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:53 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Gordano and Lysandus wrote:
Ah yes. Robespierre. Well known for his belief in freedom.

Well, the ideals of the French Revolution were significantly more free than the ideals of any other major nation at the time.

Not as free as being in the light of Louis the XVI
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Postby HypErcApitAl » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:54 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Hypercapital wrote:
libertarianism is already right-wing

(it's a breakaway ideology of Liberalism, but more pro-Capitalist and even leaning towards AnCap)

Liberalism was both Socially and Economically Liberal (Laissez-faire) but then Liberalists and other liberal ideologies split off, and then you also have Classical Liberalism/Classicism/ClaLib.

Classicists get labeled Libertarian (by leftists/far-leftists that can't tell the difference, I think b/c it's a counter to righties and every other non-leftist ideology not being able to tell the difference between DemSoc, SocDem and Communist-Socialist.) by Leftists.

Classicists aren't stans/simps for McCorporation tho.

Are you Robespierre "power to the people" sort of Classical Liberal or the American sort of Classical Liberal with the whole inalienable rights thing.


French Revolution; Good. (also note I'm French irl so I may be biased towards France or Liberalism. Oops.)

Founding Fathers - I essentially stan them and quote them sometimes.

Free Speech - I'm an absolutist.

Gun Rights/2A - I lean towards Jacksonian America (Pro-Dueling and such)

Constitution - It's not bulletproof, man. I mean, it's a good document, but it's time we stop simping for it.

I lean Progressive/Technocrat everywhere else, but that's because I'm pro-Technology, pro-Intellectual, anti-status quo, a Rooseveltist (Teddy stan), and I think that there's nothing wrong w/ the RFID chip and that all the outrage about it is asinine.

Cybernetics/Bionics and other things, I'd be considered Transhumanist or some other sister-ideology to Technocrat.

My technocracy is more-so "Technocratic Republic," or; "I think we should have flying cars. Sci-Fi is cool. The US should focus more on the Future, Science, Technology and Humanity."

Expansionism/Manifest Destiny/American Empire - All for.
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:56 pm

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Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:I think you could definitely make a libertarian-esque conservative Democrat work


I think the term you're looking for is "Southern Democrat," and yeah. I agree.

I'll give her a political history of being third-party (I'll work on my IC reason as to why) just for Brownie/Internet points.

No. A Southern Democrat is hardly libertarian.
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Postby Sanabel » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:58 pm

Hypercapital wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Are you Robespierre "power to the people" sort of Classical Liberal or the American sort of Classical Liberal with the whole inalienable rights thing.


French Revolution; Good. (also note I'm French irl so I may be biased towards France or Liberalism. Oops.)

Founding Fathers - I essentially stan them and quote them sometimes.

Free Speech - I'm an absolutist.

Gun Rights/2A - I lean towards Jacksonian America (Pro-Dueling and such)

Constitution - It's not bulletproof, man. I mean, it's a good document, but it's time we stop simping for it.

I lean Progressive/Technocrat everywhere else, but that's because I'm pro-Technology, pro-Intellectual, anti-status quo, a Rooseveltist (Teddy stan), and I think that there's nothing wrong w/ the RFID chip and that all the outrage about it is asinine.

Cybernetics/Bionics and other things, I'd be considered Transhumanist or some other sister-ideology to Technocrat.

My technocracy is more-so "Technocratic Republic," or; "I think we should have flying cars. Sci-Fi is cool. The US should focus more on the Future, Science, Technology and Humanity."

Expansionism/Manifest Destiny/American Empire - All for.

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Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:
Hypercapital wrote:
I think the term you're looking for is "Southern Democrat," and yeah. I agree.

I'll give her a political history of being third-party (I'll work on my IC reason as to why) just for Brownie/Internet points.

No. A Southern Democrat is hardly libertarian.


They're "conservative democrat" though.

Pro-gun, Anti-Abortion, Anti-LGBTQIA+, that sorta thing.
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Sanabel wrote:
Hypercapital wrote:
French Revolution; Good. (also note I'm French irl so I may be biased towards France or Liberalism. Oops.)

Founding Fathers - I essentially stan them and quote them sometimes.

Free Speech - I'm an absolutist.

Gun Rights/2A - I lean towards Jacksonian America (Pro-Dueling and such)

Constitution - It's not bulletproof, man. I mean, it's a good document, but it's time we stop simping for it.

I lean Progressive/Technocrat everywhere else, but that's because I'm pro-Technology, pro-Intellectual, anti-status quo, a Rooseveltist (Teddy stan), and I think that there's nothing wrong w/ the RFID chip and that all the outrage about it is asinine.

Cybernetics/Bionics and other things, I'd be considered Transhumanist or some other sister-ideology to Technocrat.

My technocracy is more-so "Technocratic Republic," or; "I think we should have flying cars. Sci-Fi is cool. The US should focus more on the Future, Science, Technology and Humanity."

Expansionism/Manifest Destiny/American Empire - All for.

Oh God WCC has met his match

“I’m an anti-diaper peepee-poopooist with big boy tendencies”

“Well, I disagree with you on the basis that I am a revisionist poopoocrat, and my personal ideology has some token differences with others, so I would really call my beliefs Big Tent Toiletism.”


:rofl:
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Character Name: Damian Hayes
Character Gender: Male
Character Age: 44
Character Height: 165cm
Character Weight: 50kg
Character Position/Role/Job: Lobbyist at John Edwards, a New York Lobbying Firm
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Character State of Origin: New York
Character State of Residence: New York
Character Party Affiliation: Independent, Leans Democrat
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