Ifreann wrote:What in the fucking hell is happening right now?
Someone claiming child molestors should be punished for physical violence and posters acting as if asking for proof that molestors are pathologically violent is enabling molestation.
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by Gormwood » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:23 am
Ifreann wrote:What in the fucking hell is happening right now?
by Celritannia » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:24 am
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by Gormwood » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:25 am
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by Novus America » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:26 am
Gormwood wrote:Andsed wrote:... Are- are you trying to argue molesting a child is not an inherently violent act? Because it comes off that way.
So child molestation always involves physically restraining a child against their will? That's like saying it's not rape if the victim is not screaming and struggling.
by Fartsniffage » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:28 am
by Gormwood » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:32 am
Novus America wrote:Gormwood wrote:So child molestation always involves physically restraining a child against their will? That's like saying it's not rape if the victim is not screaming and struggling.
Rape even without physical restraint is still a violent act. Screaming and struggling are not required to make it a violent act.
But anyways that is missing the point.
Someone who committed a crime already is clearly willing to commit that crime at the time they committed that crime, and steps need to be taken to prevent them from doing so again, especially when the crime is this serious and prevalent.
by Novus America » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:40 am
Gormwood wrote:Novus America wrote:
Rape even without physical restraint is still a violent act. Screaming and struggling are not required to make it a violent act.
But anyways that is missing the point.
Someone who committed a crime already is clearly willing to commit that crime at the time they committed that crime, and steps need to be taken to prevent them from doing so again, especially when the crime is this serious and prevalent.
And someone advocated execution. Which just makes the victims witnesses that need to be silenced.
by Gormwood » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:45 am
Novus America wrote:Gormwood wrote:And someone advocated execution. Which just makes the victims witnesses that need to be silenced.
We already covered that. If the death penalty has no deterrent value your claim is false.
If child molesters are not inherently murderous your claim is false.
If someone is willing to kill a victim thinking they could avoid the death penalty by doing so (and you know it actually is easier to hide child molestation than murder) they are probably willing to kill to avoid jail and other punishments too.
Now we are taking about someone who is a child molest willing to murder.
You claims are contradictory.
You claim that child molesters are not inherently violent yet the death penalty will suddenly turn them into murderers?
by Novus America » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:53 am
Gormwood wrote:Novus America wrote:
We already covered that. If the death penalty has no deterrent value your claim is false.
If child molesters are not inherently murderous your claim is false.
If someone is willing to kill a victim thinking they could avoid the death penalty by doing so (and you know it actually is easier to hide child molestation than murder) they are probably willing to kill to avoid jail and other punishments too.
Now we are taking about someone who is a child molest willing to murder.
You claims are contradictory.
You claim that child molesters are not inherently violent yet the death penalty will suddenly turn them into murderers?
If sex crimes become capital crimes then murder becomes more palatable to an offender when the punishment are the same or even less severe for a chance to evade culpability. A point I was making but feel free to say flashers need lethal injection while you're at it.
by Gormwood » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:57 am
Novus America wrote:Gormwood wrote:If sex crimes become capital crimes then murder becomes more palatable to an offender when the punishment are the same or even less severe for a chance to evade culpability. A point I was making but feel free to say flashers need lethal injection while you're at it.
Evidence that imposing the death penalty for a crime increases the number of murders committed?
And if it is true (again stupid because murder is harder to hide) the you are saying criminals are exceptionally gravely terrified of the death penalty, thus that the death penalty should work as a deterrent...
If offenders are murderous such they would kill to avoid punishment (and why would they only do it to avoid the death penalty vs a long prison sentence) they are violent people.
You contradict yourself.
Also the last part is a stupid straw man anyways. One I do not support lethal injection and obviously not for all sex criminals, (even automatically for all child rapists) but that the death penalty should maybe be an OPTION available for the extreme cases.
Hrythingland wrote:At the end of the day the idea of it is wholly stomach churning, and in my opinion physical acts of pedophilia should be met with highly punitive measures, even death.
by The Free Joy State » Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:41 am
Celritannia wrote:Who's ready for a second spike?
by The Huskar Social Union » Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:35 am
by The New California Republic » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:47 am
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Everything is opening too early, when i was heading to work for my first shift back on Friday i passed a bar on the falls road and it was fucking crammed full of people, no social distancing whatsoever, it was completely packed.
by Alyakia » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:58 am
by Hurdergaryp » Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:59 am
Alyakia wrote:it is probably unironically time for the rest of the UK to put people that are coming in from england into 14 day quarantines
what a timeline
by Katganistan » Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:49 am
by Philjia » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:06 am
by Greater vakolicci haven » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:57 am
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Everything is opening too early, when i was heading to work for my first shift back on Friday i passed a bar on the falls road and it was fucking crammed full of people, no social distancing whatsoever, it was completely packed. Thankfully most customers in my shop were keeping their distance from one another and some were using the sanitation stations we had set up and i had access to face masks, visors and gloves as well as hand sanitiser if i needed it.
by The New California Republic » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:01 am
Katganistan wrote:The topic is UK Politics, NOT child sex abuse and paedophilia. Please return to that topic post haste.
by Andsed » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:11 am
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:The Huskar Social Union wrote:Everything is opening too early, when i was heading to work for my first shift back on Friday i passed a bar on the falls road and it was fucking crammed full of people, no social distancing whatsoever, it was completely packed. Thankfully most customers in my shop were keeping their distance from one another and some were using the sanitation stations we had set up and i had access to face masks, visors and gloves as well as hand sanitiser if i needed it.
Why would you want to social distance in a pub though? Social distanced drinking sounds shit.
by Greater vakolicci haven » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:36 am
Andsed wrote:Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Why would you want to social distance in a pub though? Social distanced drinking sounds shit.
And you know what it is even more shit? A goddam pandemic. Social distance for fucks sake it is not hard. And quite frankly you really should not be going to a pub during a pandemic. Just fucking open a zoom call and drink from home if you really want to interact with people and get wasted.
by Andsed » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:40 am
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Andsed wrote:And you know what it is even more shit? A goddam pandemic. Social distance for fucks sake it is not hard. And quite frankly you really should not be going to a pub during a pandemic. Just fucking open a zoom call and drink from home if you really want to interact with people and get wasted.
I do that every Saturday, I have done for the past 3 months, so why have you not joined us?
Next Friday though I will be in the pubs, 6 different ones. In a town with a covid infections spike.
by Greater vakolicci haven » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:42 am
Andsed wrote:Greater vakolicci haven wrote:I do that every Saturday, I have done for the past 3 months, so why have you not joined us?
Next Friday though I will be in the pubs, 6 different ones. In a town with a covid infections spike.
I don't drink. I have no interest in doing so. And your pub idea is a reckless one that could very well see you and others infected.
by The Free Joy State » Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:17 am
The New California Republic wrote:The Huskar Social Union wrote:Everything is opening too early, when i was heading to work for my first shift back on Friday i passed a bar on the falls road and it was fucking crammed full of people, no social distancing whatsoever, it was completely packed.
Yes. Pubs being open is antithetical to the concept of social distancing. We may soon realise that this was a mistake.
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