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Postby Havl » Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:12 pm

Ontorisa wrote:
Kelssek wrote:Ontorisa, before you spend more time on this, perhaps you should be aware of this.

Something you could contribute would be to make wiki pages for previous tournaments. Or maybe you could make an entry for the Hockey Champions League, or do some worldbuilding to give your teams backstory. You could decide who you want to nominate.

I understand and appreciate the enthusiasm but... chill. There's no problem here that needs fixing.


Appreciate the link. Never knew it existed.

As per the rest of your message, my issue isn't that we're broken and need a ton of time, and frantic measures to fix this, my issue is that all of these resources are available and yet they're not visible and a click away.

I don't want to have to scour NSWiki (because first of all, I really dislike editing on there as a somewhat casual player, and secondly, I never go on there personally) for our past winners. It should be on the OP. That's my issue.

Be careful with NSWiki. I updated all of the WCoH tournaments back in 2012/2013, including score tables for each individual game. And then NSWiki vanished and all of that work was lost.
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Postby Ontorisa » Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:45 pm

Havl wrote:Be careful with NSWiki. I updated all of the WCoH tournaments back in 2012/2013, including score tables for each individual game. And then NSWiki vanished and all of that work was lost.


I'm not touching NSWiki with a twelve foot pole.

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Postby World Cup of Hockey Federation » Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:47 pm

The Federation membership has been updated.
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Postby St Saratoga » Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:53 pm

World Cup of Hockey Federation wrote:The Federation membership has been updated.


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Postby Ontorisa » Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:52 am

World Cup of Hockey Federation wrote:The Federation membership has been updated.


:shock:

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Postby Trolleborg » Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:03 am

I take a liberty to compile a catalog of links to previous hockey world cup competitions. Thanks to Donnacona, who gave a much needed help with 13th edition, we have a full line of linkes right to the 9th tournament. Unfortunately, I don't found anything about first eight editions.
I'm seriously thinking about compiling results into a some sort of statistical book with pictures in pdf format, but this work looked quite voluminous and not in particular demand.

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Postby Northwest Kalactin » Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:09 am

Trolleborg wrote:snip

All of the first eight editions I believe were hosted on the jolt forums, so that would probably be you’re best bet for finding those ones.
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Postby Ko-oren » Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:35 am

Something like that already exists in this here History thread
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Postby Trolleborg » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:21 am

Without 9th championship, as I can see. And it's not too easy to find.

Anyway, there is a first version of the statistical compendium of WCoH results. I put in five first available tournaments with all results and tables, add details about following ones with lists of participants, and make a complete (really certainly incomplete and with many errors) alphabet list of every participants with a number of tournaments they played in. Had to give up idea of adding graphic materiel, since there was almost nothing to speak of, though.

Probably I will not return to this work, but hoping my actions move others to continue these toils. Everyone can take file and do whatever he see fit - add info, delete info, rearrange it every imaginable way and reproduce in convenient form.

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Postby Ontorisa » Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:50 am

Trolleborg wrote:Without 9th championship, as I can see. And it's not too easy to find.

Anyway, there is a first version of the statistical compendium of WCoH results. I put in five first available tournaments with all results and tables, add details about following ones with lists of participants, and make a complete (really certainly incomplete and with many errors) alphabet list of every participants with a number of tournaments they played in. Had to give up idea of adding graphic materiel, since there was almost nothing to speak of, though.

Probably I will not return to this work, but hoping my actions move others to continue these toils. Everyone can take file and do whatever he see fit - add info, delete info, rearrange it every imaginable way and reproduce in convenient form.


That's some good shit right there.

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Postby Kelssek » Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:58 am

https://nationstates.ermarian.net/jolt/1223/page=89

World Cup of Hockey 1's RP and results thread can be found on that link. If you use ctrl-F and go to the subsequent pages, it should be easy to find the others.

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Postby Donnacona » Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:30 pm

Wanna give a big thanks to Siovanija & Teusland for an excellent World Juniors, happy to see that tournament looking lively. A lot of great RP’ers did good work. Thanks all!
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Postby Neu Engollon » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:49 pm

Donnacona wrote:Wanna give a big thanks to Siovanija & Teusland for an excellent World Juniors, happy to see that tournament looking lively. A lot of great RP’ers did good work. Thanks all!


Congrats to the host and winner. Big ups to the runner ups, Donnacona, and Banija. Congrats on the bronze, Cass. I look forward to 15.
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Postby Sarzonia » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:53 pm

Congrats to S & T on the win and on such a great job hosting!

This was definitely fun! And so is deciding where Brett Tanguay, Jr. is going to play next!
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Postby Siovanija and Teusland » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:56 pm

Echoing the above - a big thanks to everyone for a great tournament, it's great to see such interest in the World Juniors! Looking forward to defending our crown at #15!
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Postby Terre Septentrionale » Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:38 pm

Congrats S&T for hosting and winning! Sorry for RPing only once.
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Postby Valanora » Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:57 am

With the WC and CoH coming to a close in the next few daya, expect sign-ups and the Presidential nomination to be up soon as well.. Anyone planning on bidding should be getting that ready and anyone who doesn't wish to be nominated should make it known.
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Postby Fluvannia » Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:27 am

What are criteria for WCoH Federation membership, again?
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Postby Free Republics » Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:34 am

Fluvannia wrote:What are criteria for WCoH Federation membership, again?


From the first post of this thread:

World Cup of Hockey Constitution, Version 1.01 wrote:
Constitution of the World Cup of Hockey Federation

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i) Nations are admitted via participating (by posting a roster and a RP) in the previous two World Cups of Hockey. This must then renewed to maintain their membership.





I don't think anybody's planning on nominating me for the presidency but if you are, please don't. I will decline any nominations.
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Postby World Cup of Hockey Federation » Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:29 pm

With the signups for WCoH 40 now up, any WCoHF member may now TG Vyinta with their nominations for President by 2000 CDT on July 13th. Any user that receives two nominations will be put on the ballot that will be voted on concurrently with the WCoH 40 host vote.
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Feel free to direct all enquiries regarding World Cup of Hockey to this account via Telegram. If a reply is not forthcoming within a couple of days, try the discussion thread or send a telegram to Quebec and Shingoryeo (President, cycle 47-49) or Ko-oren (President, cycle 50-52).
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Postby Cassadaigua » Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:28 am

I am not sure if anyone would nominate me here, but I do not wish to accept any nominations for this Presidency.
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Postby Falcus » Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:48 am

By a vote of 4 votes to 0, Banija is your new WCoH president.
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Postby Banija » Tue Jul 21, 2020 1:40 pm

Thank you all for that resounding vote of confidence!

Valanora, by the Constitution,(Assuming she wants it), has been vested in the Vice Presidency for the next three cycles. She has also been invited to maintain her role as rankkeeper, if she wants.

Excited for the new era ahead in international hockey :D
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Postby The Royal Kingdom of Quebec » Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:56 am

Dear all WCoH 40 participants,

Due to a withdrawal by Free Republics, there will be rearranging of pots and redrawing of groups. As I'm currently waiting for my flight in Toronto Airport, there may be possible delays to it. Therefore, expect possible changes to the schedule to fit this situation as well.

I will also state that from this point, no signup will be allowed to withdraw from the participation of the entire tournament. This will be my policy as your host.

Once again, my apologies for not anticipating a rogue situation.
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Postby Free Republics » Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:22 am

I was not aware at the time I withdrew from this tournament that the groups had already been drawn. I thank the host for honoring my withdrawal anyway.
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