by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:51 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.
by Thermodolia » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:21 pm
by Liriena » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:22 pm
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Here's the problem with that proposal... since when was anyone any good at predicting anyone else's motives for what they do?
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by West Leas Oros 2 » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:22 pm
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by West Leas Oros 2 » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:24 pm
Thermodolia wrote:Use the military to enforce order and the establishment of a new order.
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by Kragholm Free States » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:27 pm
by Liriena » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:29 pm
Kragholm Free States wrote:Anarchy is their plan.
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by Kragholm Free States » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:29 pm
by Ethel mermania » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:30 pm
Liriena wrote:LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Here's the problem with that proposal... since when was anyone any good at predicting anyone else's motives for what they do?
Here's the problem with your question, and basically your entire post:
1. Insofar as crimes go, it's not an issue of individual motives. It's an issue of underlying social and economic causes for crimes on a broader scale.
2. A big part of why people want to focus resources away from police is that the imbalance in resources leads to cops being used to respond to problems and emergencies that would be better addressed by other kinds of professionals. For example, using cops to respond to mentally ill people suffering a crisis. Police flat out are being overused to deal with problems they have no business dealing with.
by La Xinga » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:32 pm
by Superduperkid » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:34 pm
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Revolution.
by Liriena » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:35 pm
La xinga wrote:It's no longer an "if." It already happened. There's clearly more murders than usual.
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by The Emerald Legion » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:37 pm
by Thermodolia » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:37 pm
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Thermodolia wrote:Use the military to enforce order and the establishment of a new order.
I dunno. Were it not the USA, that might not be terrible. But this is murica we’re talking about, and I don’t know about you, but I’ve heard some things about the military. I hope I’m wrong though.
by La Xinga » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:37 pm
by Thermodolia » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:38 pm
Superduperkid wrote:West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Revolution.
That would be terrible, since it will cost more lives than you will expect and there isn't even a reason.
A better solution: Don't change the funding. The police are doing fine, so we should leave them alone. There's the occasional thing where a cop kills somebody, so make sure it doesn't happen again.
by Last Breath » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:38 pm
Superduperkid wrote:West Leas Oros 2 wrote:Revolution.
That would be terrible, since it will cost more lives than you will expect and there isn't even a reason.
A better solution: Don't change the funding. The police are doing fine, so we should leave them alone. There's the occasional thing where a cop kills somebody, so make sure it doesn't happen again.
by Superduperkid » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:39 pm
Last Breath wrote:Superduperkid wrote:
That would be terrible, since it will cost more lives than you will expect and there isn't even a reason.
A better solution: Don't change the funding. The police are doing fine, so we should leave them alone. There's the occasional thing where a cop kills somebody, so make sure it doesn't happen again.
Except crime is often an issue that could be addressed in much more efficient ways than locking people up.
by Liriena » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:40 pm
La xinga wrote:Liriena wrote:[citation needed]
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020 ... lice-crime
Take Chicago. Not the only city. 3 weeks ago, at the height of all of this.
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by Last Breath » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:42 pm
by Galloism » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:42 pm
by La Xinga » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:43 pm
Liriena wrote:La xinga wrote:https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020 ... lice-crime
Take Chicago. Not the only city. 3 weeks ago, at the height of all of this.
Was Chicago police defunded?
Also, correlation =/= causation, my dude.
by Estanglia » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:43 pm
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by Superduperkid » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:45 pm
Last Breath wrote:Superduperkid wrote:
And why is that? It's always best to make sure they don't do it again.
How about we fund social programs and education so that instead of never committing crimes again, people simply are less likely to commit crimes in the first place. Furthermore having spent time in jail can make seeking employment extremely difficult, which of course leads to poverty and then to more crime.
by Liriena » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:47 pm
La xinga wrote:
1. Not specially defunded, but if you want a place where something was done, take NYC.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/16/us/new-y ... index.html
(CNN, very liberal.)
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny ... story.html
2. What?
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