Coronavirus Thread IV: Legends, Laments and Lockdowns

[Valrifell]

In an analysis done by Harvard, Only 17 states and Washington DC are meeting the Coronavirus testing targets.

This is broken down into two groups. The first group is doing enough testing to mitigate the spread of the virus. That group consists of the following:

Washington DC, Connecticut, Delaware, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Montana, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Oklahoma, West Virginia, and Wyoming.

Then for the second group, there are three States that are meeting the higher goal of suppressing the virus. They are Vermont, Hawaii and Alaska. However, the likes of West Virginia, Montana, and New Jersey are close to achieving that goal as well.

That means there are 33 States falling short, including the likes of Arizona and Florida. Simply put, these States opened up too soon so they can "save" their economy because that apparently is more important then peoples' lives:

"The surges we're seeing in large parts of the country are due in part because those states opened up too quickly and they relaxed way too much given how much virus they had in their community — and they lacked testing," Ashish Jha, director of the Harvard Global Health Institute, told NPR. "These two things really go hand in hand."

You know, I've never been glad to live in New Jersey until right now.

We were the butt of so many jokes, who's laughing now?! Who?!

[Fartsniffage]

CDC says U.S. has 'way too much virus' to control pandemic as cases surge across country

To quote Rick Perry, "Oops."

Why do you post the same thing in multiple threads?

Because it's applicable to both threads.

[Liriena]

So... uh, we're still under quarantine over here. Or rather, the Buenos Aires metropolitan area and a couple other cities are still under quarantine.

Yay.

[Zurkerx]

CDC says U.S. has 'way too much virus' to control pandemic as cases surge across country

To quote Rick Perry, "Oops."

This was to be expected: the United States is rather large and populous so it makes sense that we would have a more difficult time controlling the spread. That being said, re-opening too early and fast has definitely led to a spike, especially in Republican States and the likes of California.

In an analysis done by Harvard, Only 17 states and Washington DC are meeting the Coronavirus testing targets.

This is broken down into two groups. The first group is doing enough testing to mitigate the spread of the virus. That group consists of the following:

Washington DC, Connecticut, Delaware, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Montana, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Oklahoma, West Virginia, and Wyoming.

Then for the second group, there are three States that are meeting the higher goal of suppressing the virus. They are Vermont, Hawaii and Alaska. However, the likes of West Virginia, Montana, and New Jersey are close to achieving that goal as well.

That means there are 33 States falling short, including the likes of Arizona and Florida. Simply put, these States opened up too soon so they can "save" their economy because that apparently is more important then peoples' lives:

"The surges we're seeing in large parts of the country are due in part because those states opened up too quickly and they relaxed way too much given how much virus they had in their community — and they lacked testing," Ashish Jha, director of the Harvard Global Health Institute, told NPR. "These two things really go hand in hand."

You know, I've never been glad to live in New Jersey until right now.

We were the butt of so many jokes, who's laughing now?! Who?!

From the armpit of New York to the Jersey Shore, it seems we're a role model though some people were not happy our Governor has put indoor dining on pause indefinitely because of Coronavirus, which I don't blame him: places that have opened up for indoor dining seem to have led to spike overall.

[Fartsniffage]

This was to be expected: the United States is rather large and populous so it makes sense that we would have a more difficult time controlling the spread. That being said, re-opening too early and fast has definitely led to a spike, especially in Republican States and the likes of California.

That's rubbish. It could be controlled in the US the same as it has been in plenty of countries. The federal government just decided to be shit.

And I say that from the UK where our government has also decided to be shit.

[Baltenstein]

So... uh, we're still under quarantine over here. Or rather, the Buenos Aires metropolitan area and a couple other cities are still under quarantine.

Yay.

Are you at least allowed to leave the house for something other than groceries?

[Tombradyonia]

This was to be expected: the United States is rather large and populous so it makes sense that we would have a more difficult time controlling the spread. That being said, re-opening too early and fast has definitely led to a spike, especially in Republican States and the likes of California.

That's rubbish. It could be controlled in the US the same as it has been in plenty of countries. The federal government just decided to be shit.

And I say that from the UK where our government has also decided to be shit.

I do believe that the correct approach for a country or state depends on the population density, but there's no denying the people in charge of the current US Federal Govt are supremely incompetent.

[Gormwood]

This was to be expected: the United States is rather large and populous so it makes sense that we would have a more difficult time controlling the spread. That being said, re-opening too early and fast has definitely led to a spike, especially in Republican States and the likes of California.

That's rubbish. It could be controlled in the US the same as it has been in plenty of countries. The federal government just decided to be shit.

And I say that from the UK where our government has also decided to be shit.

South Korea caught it the same day and they sure didn't decide to be shit. It's also pathetic how pandemic response is heavily partisan here.

[Baltenstein]

I think I would very much like to relocate.

Sorry most other countries are no longer allowing Americans to come.

You are stuck here in the United lands of Plague.

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[Liriena]

So... uh, we're still under quarantine over here. Or rather, the Buenos Aires metropolitan area and a couple other cities are still under quarantine.

Yay.

Are you at least allowed to leave the house for something other than groceries?

We were allowed to basically roam our neighbourhoods freely for the past couple weeks, but cases have been spiking in the area so we're going back to square one. Only essentials again.

[Gormwood]

Sorry most other countries are no longer allowing Americans to come.

You are stuck here in the United lands of Plague.

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[Greater vakolicci haven]

WTF is going on with Iran?

They've been reporting very similar rates for what seems like months now, it isn't going up and it isn't going down. Whoever they have making up their stats needs to know how curves work.

[Zurkerx]

This was to be expected: the United States is rather large and populous so it makes sense that we would have a more difficult time controlling the spread. That being said, re-opening too early and fast has definitely led to a spike, especially in Republican States and the likes of California.

That's rubbish. It could be controlled in the US the same as it has been in plenty of countries. The federal government just decided to be shit.

And I say that from the UK where our government has also decided to be shit.

Oh, I'm aware: the incompetency is inexcusable- it's just some areas it would be harder to control due to population density. However, the approaches done by South Korea, Japan, and Germany would have worked perfectly though the results would vary due to said population size: it could take a few weeks to a few months depending on the area, and who's in charge which thankfully, my Governor has done a good job. Others like Kemp and DeSantis though are a different story.

That's rubbish. It could be controlled in the US the same as it has been in plenty of countries. The federal government just decided to be shit.

And I say that from the UK where our government has also decided to be shit.

I do believe that the correct approach for a country or state depends on the population density, but there's no denying the people in charge of the current US Federal Govt are supremely incompetent.

Indeed, not every place is the same: Montana, a small State, would have an easier time controlling the virus than a State like California, which is ballooning currently. It's honestly pathetic and sad we don't have competent leaders.

[Gormwood]

I do believe that the correct approach for a country or state depends on the population density, but there's no denying the people in charge of the current US Federal Govt are supremely incompetent.

Indeed, not every place is the same: Montana, a small State, would have an easier time controlling the virus than a State like California, which is ballooning currently. It's honestly pathetic and sad we don't have competent leaders.

Battleground states decided competent is a cunt.

[Greed and Death]

WTF is going on with Iran?

They've been reporting very similar rates for what seems like months now, it isn't going up and it isn't going down. Whoever they have making up their stats needs to know how curves work.

They very likely are making up stats They can't say zero while people know others whoa re getting sick, but they also don't want too high of numbers because they worry the people or the military will remove them from power.

[Vetalia]

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https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/ste ... 0801195221

No wonder I've felt called to Las Vegas so much lately.

[San Lumen]

That's rubbish. It could be controlled in the US the same as it has been in plenty of countries. The federal government just decided to be shit.

And I say that from the UK where our government has also decided to be shit.

Oh, I'm aware: the incompetency is inexcusable- it's just some areas it would be harder to control due to population density. However, the approaches done by South Korea, Japan, and Germany would have worked perfectly though the results would vary due to said population size: it could take a few weeks to a few months depending on the area, and who's in charge which thankfully, my Governor has done a good job. Others like Kemp and DeSantis though are a different story.

I do believe that the correct approach for a country or state depends on the population density, but there's no denying the people in charge of the current US Federal Govt are supremely incompetent.

Indeed, not every place is the same: Montana, a small State, would have an easier time controlling the virus than a State like California, which is ballooning currently. It's honestly pathetic and sad we don't have competent leaders.

What would you like to be done?

[Vetalia]

CDC says U.S. has 'way too much virus' to control pandemic as cases surge across country

To quote Rick Perry, "Oops."

I don't really know how much cases matter if deaths keep falling...it might not be a bad idea to let this burn itself out as much as possible during the summer to be more prepared for the fall and winter. Plus, with how much more knowledge we have now than three-four months ago we can apply a much more efficient, tailored approach that avoids the severe disruptions caused by lockdowns.

[San Lumen]

CDC says U.S. has 'way too much virus' to control pandemic as cases surge across country

To quote Rick Perry, "Oops."

I don't really know how much cases matter if deaths keep falling...it might not be a bad idea to let this burn itself out as much as possible during the summer to be more prepared for the fall and winter. Plus, with how much more knowledge we have now than three-four months ago we can apply a much more efficient, tailored approach that avoids the severe disruptions caused by lockdowns.

Our leaders aren’t going to take such an approach

[Vetalia]

Our leaders aren’t going to take such an approach

I don't think they really have much of a choice. Even now the response is basically targeted and is not the blanket approach used back in March-April.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

That's rubbish. It could be controlled in the US the same as it has been in plenty of countries. The federal government just decided to be shit.

And I say that from the UK where our government has also decided to be shit.

I do believe that the correct approach for a country or state depends on the population density, but there's no denying the people in charge of the current US Federal Govt are supremely incompetent.

It could’ve indeed been contained had the fed actually done its job and people didn’t buy into conspiracy theories, act like entitled toddlers and not refuse to wear the fucking face masks to protect themselves and others. But no. That’s too much to ask for.

[Greed and Death]

Our leaders aren’t going to take such an approach

I don't think they really have much of a choice. Even now the response is basically targeted and is not the blanket approach used back in March-April.

It has also mutated to become more infectious. On an order of magnitude no less.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/12/health/c ... index.html

[Valrifell]

I don't think they really have much of a choice. Even now the response is basically targeted and is not the blanket approach used back in March-April.

It has also mutated to become more infectious. On an order of magnitude no less.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/12/health/c ... index.html

That's very unsexy.

[Vetalia]

It has also mutated to become more infectious. On an order of magnitude no less.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/12/health/c ... index.html

That makes a lot of sense and consistent with the increasing disconnect seen between numbers of cases and deaths/hospitalizations compared to the experience earlier in 2020. More infectious but increasingly less lethal, not unlike other coronaviruses.

[San Lumen]

It has also mutated to become more infectious. On an order of magnitude no less.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/12/health/c ... index.html

That makes a lot of sense and consistent with the increasing disconnect seen between numbers of cases and deaths/hospitalizations compared to the experience earlier in 2020. More infectious but increasingly less lethal, not unlike other coronaviruses.

Isn't the common cold related to Covid?