Jinwoy wrote:Turks are not from Turkey. They stole the land from Byzantine Greeks. Only Greeks can be Turks!
Anatolia Turks are a majority Greek and other Anatolia ethnicites in ancestry. The Turkishness of the people is mainly cultural.
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by Rojava Free State » Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:25 am
Jinwoy wrote:Turks are not from Turkey. They stole the land from Byzantine Greeks. Only Greeks can be Turks!
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Heloin » Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:26 am
Jack Thomas Lang wrote:They're Africans, and they a legitimate right to their land in South Africa. They've been there longer than many Black South Africans.
by The Reformed American Republic » Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:54 am
by Aureumterra » Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:58 am
by The Reformed American Republic » Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:00 am
Aureumterra wrote:Why shouldn’t they be considered African?
by Krasny-Volny » Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:16 am
The Reformed American Republic wrote:If for whatever reason they are expelled by angry natives, we in the west should be prepared to take them in.
by Rojava Free State » Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:16 am
The Reformed American Republic wrote:If for whatever reason they are expelled by angry natives, we in the west should be prepared to take them in.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Rojava Free State » Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:17 am
Krasny-Volny wrote:The Reformed American Republic wrote:If for whatever reason they are expelled by angry natives, we in the west should be prepared to take them in.
The original natives of South Africa are incapable of expelling anybody. I think at last count the aboriginal population numbered less than half a million.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by The Reformed American Republic » Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:46 pm
Krasny-Volny wrote:The Reformed American Republic wrote:If for whatever reason they are expelled by angry natives, we in the west should be prepared to take them in.
The original natives of South Africa are incapable of expelling anybody. I think at last count the aboriginal population numbered less than half a million.
by Neanderthaland » Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:50 pm
by Aureumterra » Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:53 pm
Neanderthaland wrote:Yes. Also European. Just like African-Americans are African and American.
by Tokora » Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:54 pm
Korea1993 wrote:Theyre Anglo-Africans, just like in my country we have pakistani norwegian, afro norwegian etc, culturaly norwegian not genetic
Jinwoy wrote:Turks are not from Turkey. They stole the land from Byzantine Greeks. Only Greeks can be Turks!
by Neanderthaland » Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:56 pm
Aureumterra wrote:Neanderthaland wrote:Yes. Also European. Just like African-Americans are African and American.
African Americans are hardly African, what are you talking about? If you were to put an African American in the middle of Accra, they would hardly understand any of the native languages, even the English creole would be basically unintelligible, and many of the practices Africans follow would seem alien to African Americans.
by Tekania » Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:01 pm
by Luziyca » Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:09 pm
Xmara wrote:Are white Americans true Americans? Because, I mean, we weren't the first ones there.
by Xmara » Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:27 pm
Luziyca wrote:Xmara wrote:Are white Americans true Americans? Because, I mean, we weren't the first ones there.
Geographically, yes.
In my eyes, Afrikaners, much like the European-descended peeps who inhabit the Americas/Australia/Aotearoa, are geographically from Africa/the Americas/Australia/Aotearoa.
Now, are the Afrikaners indigenous to Africa? No, given they're descended from Dutch settlers. To say that they are indigenous would be like suggesting that the Mormons are indigenous to the United States: sure, they may have developed their identity in Africa or in North America, but they are fundamentally of European descent.
by King of the Incels » Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:28 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:What makes a man one with the soil he resides on? His loyalty? His genetic origin? His language? His religion? For countless eons we have asked what makes a person part of a nation and part of a people, and into the present day we continue to wonder. One good example of this is the Afrikaaner people of South Africa, Zambia, Namibia, and Zimbabwe, descendants of Dutch, German and French immigrants to Southern Africa. The Afrikaaners have lived in the region for hundreds of years, their population centered around the country of South Africa, and they have etched out a living as farmers in the African savanna. Their ethnic name literally means "African," and their culture has been heavily influenced by the time spent on the continent. However, some would argue that due to the genetic lineage of the Afrikaaners as Europeans, they are not truly an African people. In my opinion, the Afrikaaners are indeed Africans, having resided in Africa for hundreds of years, and they are a part of the continent. Their genetic lineage from Europe changes nothing. So what are your thoughts NSers? How long must an ethnic group reside on a continent before it can claim the continent as a home? And is homeland determined by genetics or by the soil one is born on?
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by Bear Stearns » Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:29 pm
Krasny-Volny wrote:The Reformed American Republic wrote:If for whatever reason they are expelled by angry natives, we in the west should be prepared to take them in.
The original natives of South Africa are incapable of expelling anybody. I think at last count the aboriginal population numbered less than half a million.
by Lanoraie II » Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:34 pm
Major-Tom wrote:If that's how they choose to identify, sure.
by Azania- » Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:36 pm
Jack Thomas Lang wrote:They're Africans, and they a legitimate right to their land in South Africa. They've been there longer than many Black South Africans.
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by Aureumterra » Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:37 pm
Azania- wrote:As an Afrikaner myself, I'd like to offer my own opinion.
Yes, we are. But, more importantly, who's questioning it? Never have I nor anyone I know been made to feel otherwise.Jack Thomas Lang wrote:They're Africans, and they a legitimate right to their land in South Africa. They've been there longer than many Black South Africans.
This is bull. Black people have been in SA for thousands of years. Long before van Riebeeck ever set foot in the Cape.
by Bear Stearns » Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:39 pm
by Luziyca » Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:39 pm
Xmara wrote:Luziyca wrote:Geographically, yes.
In my eyes, Afrikaners, much like the European-descended peeps who inhabit the Americas/Australia/Aotearoa, are geographically from Africa/the Americas/Australia/Aotearoa.
Now, are the Afrikaners indigenous to Africa? No, given they're descended from Dutch settlers. To say that they are indigenous would be like suggesting that the Mormons are indigenous to the United States: sure, they may have developed their identity in Africa or in North America, but they are fundamentally of European descent.
That’s the point I was trying to make. Nobody is contending that white Americans cannot call themselves Americans because they’re ancestrally European, so why should we say that Afrikaaners can’t call themselves African? They may be ancestrally European too, but the ones who are there now were born and raised in Africa.
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