OOC: When bringing up a compromise measure, it is somewhat important to outline where the conflict is. Will this stop all the repeal efforts? No, but they’ll have a harder time claiming they are not being listened to.
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by Godular » Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:33 am
by Pope Saint Peter the Apostle » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:15 am
Godular wrote:WA Kitty Kops wrote:OOC: But you could easily do that without underlining the anti-abortion ideology...
OOC: When bringing up a compromise measure, it is somewhat important to outline where the conflict is. Will this stop all the repeal efforts? No, but they’ll have a harder time claiming they are not being listened to.
by Godular » Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:50 am
Pope Saint Peter the Apostle wrote:Godular wrote:
OOC: When bringing up a compromise measure, it is somewhat important to outline where the conflict is. Will this stop all the repeal efforts? No, but they’ll have a harder time claiming they are not being listened to.
Ambassador, you cannot pretend this is a "compromise"; you say you acknowledge "that many nations have moral qualms regarding abortion access, and often feel disenfranchised by the prevailing atmosphere of perceived lack of compromise and understanding", yet at the same time require us to provide people with free abortions. Opposed per CCC 2270-2275.
--Saint Gerard Majella, C.Ss.R., patron of the unborn children and pregnant women
Senior consuasor ad Sancti Imperium
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by Godular » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:53 am
by Anurial » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:03 am
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by Godular » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:07 am
Anurial wrote:"Alleviating the potential financial burden that an unexpected child can bring is an excellent step in both extending freedom of choice and lowering abortion rates"
OOC: I've never tried writing or contributing to WA resolutions, though is providing financial assistance to certain nations unable to foot the bill a possibility?
by Kenmoria » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:55 am
Godular wrote:Question: Would allowing nations to set a time limit on when an ‘elective’ abortion can be carried out contradict previous legislation? I can’t recall if viability/trimester stuff ever came up.
by Godular » Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:24 am
Kenmoria wrote:Godular wrote:Question: Would allowing nations to set a time limit on when an ‘elective’ abortion can be carried out contradict previous legislation? I can’t recall if viability/trimester stuff ever came up.
(OOC: That would contradict Reproductive Freedoms, GA #286, which mandates that member nations permit abortion in all circumstances.)
by Pope Saint Peter the Apostle » Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:41 am
Kenmoria wrote:Godular wrote:Question: Would allowing nations to set a time limit on when an ‘elective’ abortion can be carried out contradict previous legislation? I can’t recall if viability/trimester stuff ever came up.
(OOC: That would contradict Reproductive Freedoms, GA #286, which mandates that member nations permit abortion in all circumstances.)
by Kenmoria » Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:48 am
Pope Saint Peter the Apostle wrote:Kenmoria wrote:(OOC: That would contradict Reproductive Freedoms, GA #286, which mandates that member nations permit abortion in all circumstances.)
OOC: I might be misreading something, but I do not see anything in 286 that mandates that abortions at all stages of life be allowed.
by Pope Saint Peter the Apostle » Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:52 am
Kenmoria wrote:Pope Saint Peter the Apostle wrote:OOC: I might be misreading something, but I do not see anything in 286 that mandates that abortions at all stages of life be allowed.
(OOC: I’m looking at ‘DEMANDS that Member Nations prohibit any impediment to the termination of pregnancy that is not applied to medical procedures of similar risk and complexity.’ Any form of restriction on an abortion would fall under this, unless also applied to other medical procedures of similar complexity. I don’t see a time or trimester limit as being reasonably applicable to other medical procedures.)
by Godular » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:15 am
by Kenmoria » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:09 am
Godular wrote:Made another change, accounting for Araraukar’s issue with section 2C, replacing it with a funding measure. Let me know if it needs revision.
by Godular » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:21 am
by Araraukar » Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:43 pm
Godular wrote:Funding: Resources from the World Assembly General Fund shall be utilized to address the needs of any nations that would be financially overburdened in adhering to the mandates presented in this legislation.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Godular » Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:47 pm
Araraukar wrote:Godular wrote:Funding: Resources from the World Assembly General Fund shall be utilized to address the needs of any nations that would be financially overburdened in adhering to the mandates presented in this legislation.
OOC: Make that something like "...any nations that are provenly unable to financially adhere to..." to avoid any anti-abortion nations simply using the WAGF instead of their own moneys (remember that WAGF gets its moneys off of even the poorest of WA nations) to fund anything to do with the surplus children that they don't want people to abort, but don't want to support them either.
by Attancia » Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:09 pm
United Massachusetts wrote:We would clap and applaud enthusiastically at this did it not mandate state funding for "termination of pregnancy."
by Godular » Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:21 pm
by Pope Saint Peter the Apostle » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:53 pm
Godular wrote:Attancia wrote:"As would we. As a nation with the glories of religion deeply engrained in our culture, that simply cannot be."
“‘Tis better to be free and rare than to be banned, which itself is a functional impossibility in the World Assembly. You want the WA to aid in reducing abortion numbers? This right here is your best option, if I might be so bold as to say.”
by Araraukar » Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:59 am
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Godular » Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:51 am
Araraukar wrote:OOC: Definitions are a problem. The welfare thing and members are unnecessary, while at-risk STILL catches every fucking one person who has a child. You should also change it to define at-risk HOUSEHOLD instead, as that's what the mandates use.
by Godular » Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:30 pm
by Kenmoria » Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:11 pm
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