RWDT XX: The System Is Kapp Putsch

[Nakena]

I could Zizek imagine totally to be the guy who enjoys a good time with Strippers and some Booze after a long day.

[Imperium Romanum Sanctis]

well, Zizek is a (schniff) funny guy. of course he's a marxist, but he goes against the grain a few ways. he could definitely be construed as a post marxist. I mean it's well known that the decolonization fellas - the Fannonists basically - really hate him, and related to that is his very outspoken on his critique of identity politics, which has wormed its way into popular marxism.

*rubs nose* PURE IDEOLOGY *snorts*

[Northern Davincia]

whats more likely, immaculate birth or mary just lied lmfao "uhhh no we never did anything i swear mum"

immaculate birth isn't even unique, its a normal mythology

Why bother taking likelihood into account? A man returning from the dead after crucifixion is unlikely, yet we still believe it happened.
Indulge us with other examples of immaculate birth if you wish.

[United Muscovite Nations]

I could Zizek imagine totally to be the guy who enjoys a good time with Strippers and some Booze after a long day.

>that's a good time
I don't understand people

[Valrifell]

this thread changes topics more often than a 13 year old girl changes shirts

Whose counting?

I stopped counting after Napoleon died. Why bother keeping up after that?

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

ell, Zizek is a (schniff) funny guy. of course he's a marxist, but he goes against the grain a few ways. he could definitely be construed as a post marxist. I mean it's well known that the decolonization fellas - the Fannonists basically - really hate him, and related to that is his very outspoken on his critique of identity politics, which has wormed its way into popular marxism.

on your second part, I think a lot the reasoning the political enemy was viewed as something that needed to be crushed as opposed to colonized is because the conventional fascist threads - broadly liberalism, but specifically Jews - is because they actually lived in the western countries and had politically and financially active roles. brown savage living in Botswana or the great planes does not serve in parliament, control the treasury, etc. so the fascist would argue a very different kind of solution, however barbaric, is necessitated for a success class collaborationist nation.

again, this rolls right into Marxist narrative about diamet and the distractions the bourgeois provides the alienate the worker, but whatever.

are u a marxist tho?

yeah thats a fine analysis. but remember the fascists had a lot of internal things as well that weren't even threats to them. they were really, really, really into crushing gays (then having sex with other men afterwards), gypsies, et cetera.

I think you are pointing out the structure of the class collaborationist ( ) state which I basically agree with, but I am thinking about the fascist personality type. with the fascist personality type I wanted to draw parallels to libertarian personality types in a "second part" but I think it would be too nuclear

[Cekoviu]

whats more likely, immaculate birth or mary just lied lmfao "uhhh no we never did anything i swear mum"

immaculate birth isn't even unique, its a normal mythology

unlikely != impossible
jfc this is a stupid argument

She was bright.

you seem to have maybe missed the point
which is that women are humans with human flaws, just as unclean as men, and not magical angels that you need to be constantly simping for

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

this thread changes topics more often than a 13 year old girl changes shirts

sorry thats a really fucking weird analogy to make

[The Marlborough]

The history of Cambodia from the 1950's to 1990's is far, far stranger than something like that.

Can't say I'm familiar outside of the Khmer Rouge and the Vietnamese occupation.

Though the Khmer Rouge getting support from the United States was pretty weird, come to think.

The very compact and short version goes like this:
Norodom Sihanouk becomes king. Later he abdicates in favor of his father and basically becomes the prime minister. Then he becomes the dictator. Then he gets coup'd. Then he joins with the Khmer Rouge. Then he sides with the Vietnamese backed CPP against the Khmer Rouge. Then he goes against the Vietnamese backed CPP and Khmer Rouge.

Hun Sen joined with the Khmer Rouge. Then he left the Khmer Rouge and became leader of the CPP.

Then both Hun Sen and Norodom Sihanouk reconciled, with Hun Sen and his old communist party reinstating the monarchy with Norodom Sihanouk as king once more.

[The Cazistan]

this thread changes topics more often than a 13 year old girl changes shirts

This thread changes topics more often than France changed governments

lol

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

unlikely != impossible

lol

there's no other way of validating whether immaculate birth is possible other than to just envision the scenario in which it allegedly happened

[Cisairse]

this thread changes topics more often than a 13 year old girl changes shirts

This thread changes topics more often than France changed governments

Don't be absurd.

[Italios]

ell, Zizek is a (schniff) funny guy. of course he's a marxist, but he goes against the grain a few ways. he could definitely be construed as a post marxist. I mean it's well known that the decolonization fellas - the Fannonists basically - really hate him, and related to that is his very outspoken on his critique of identity politics, which has wormed its way into popular marxism.

on your second part, I think a lot the reasoning the political enemy was viewed as something that needed to be crushed as opposed to colonized is because the conventional fascist threads - broadly liberalism, but specifically Jews - is because they actually lived in the western countries and had politically and financially active roles. brown savage living in Botswana or the great planes does not serve in parliament, control the treasury, etc. so the fascist would argue a very different kind of solution, however barbaric, is necessitated for a success class collaborationist nation.

again, this rolls right into Marxist narrative about diamet and the distractions the bourgeois provides the alienate the worker, but whatever.

are u a marxist tho?

yeah thats a fine analysis. but remember the fascists had a lot of internal things as well that weren't even threats to them. they were really, really, really into crushing gays (then having sex with other men afterwards), gypsies, et cetera.

I think you are pointing out the structure of the class collaborationist ( ) state which I basically agree with, but I am thinking about the fascist personality type. with the fascist personality type I wanted to draw parallels to libertarian personality types in a "second part" but I think it would be too nuclear

I think so yeah, economically Marx was absolutely on the nose (you hate to see it) I've been interested into conversation between intrumentalist vs structural marxism, which gets shafted a lot, so i guess I'm an instrumentalist then

I think the psychosexual stuff is probably true as well as much as fascists would throw a fit over it. I mean hitler wasn't even the perfect nazi, it really was a power grab and he used all available tools to that - positive christianity, training tanks divisions in USSR(!), clearing out the SA in favor of the SS.

although this is the RWDT so of course, i'm open to discussion with the third positions and so on

[Valrifell]

Can't say I'm familiar outside of the Khmer Rouge and the Vietnamese occupation.

Though the Khmer Rouge getting support from the United States was pretty weird, come to think.

The very compact and short version goes like this:
Norodom Sihanouk becomes king. Later he abdicates in favor of his father and basically becomes the prime minister. Then he becomes the dictator. Then he gets coup'd. Then he joins with the Khmer Rouge. Then he sides with the Vietnamese backed CPP against the Khmer Rouge. Then he goes against the Vietnamese backed CPP and Khmer Rouge.

Hun Sen joined with the Khmer Rouge. Then he left the Khmer Rouge and became leader of the CPP.

Then both Hun Sen and Norodom Sihanouk reconciled, with Hun Sen and his old communist party reinstating the monarchy with Norodom Sihanouk as king once more.

What a rollercoaster.

[Nakena]

I could Zizek imagine totally to be the guy who enjoys a good time with Strippers and some Booze after a long day.

>that's a good time
I don't understand people

Well he doesnt takes cocaine

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miraculous_births

divine intervention in conception and birth is a normal thing in human cultures, it features in a lot of religions and etc.

[Auze]

this thread changes topics more often than a 13 year old girl changes shirts

sorry thats a really fucking weird analogy to make

Yeah, here's an improved version:

this thread changes topics more often than a 13 year old girl changes shirts sexual orientation

[Italios]

whats more likely, immaculate birth or mary just lied lmfao "uhhh no we never did anything i swear mum"

immaculate birth isn't even unique, its a normal mythology

Why bother taking likelihood into account? A man returning from the dead after crucifixion is unlikely, yet we still believe it happened.
Indulge us with other examples of immaculate birth if you wish.

"a man" bruh

[Cekoviu]

sorry thats a really fucking weird analogy to make

Yeah, here's an improved version:

this thread changes topics more often than a 13 year old girl changes shirts sexual orientation

somehow worse and less accurate? didn't think that was possible but there u go

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

so i guess I'm an instrumentalist then

nice knowing you, you will get cancelled in future.

all western left is poisoned by structuralism of all kinds. marxism no exception. one day on thsi thread we should organise a debate about labour theory of value vs marginal theory of value, I'm sure there would be LOTS of people willing to defend latter.

I really like marx, he had a lot of very interesting things to say and many predictions he made come true, but I can't follow him the way that most socialists do. he's just a guy in history who birthed a movement - there can be a socialism after marxism. i guess i would define my politics as post-marxist non-leftist socialism, personally. I mean, its in the signature L o L

recently I have been thinking of joining the communist party but I don't really think I can take that step yet.

although this is the RWDT so of course, i'm open to discussion with the third positions and so on

yeah I don't mind talking to them on the internet. but I would rather just see them squashed IRL. fascists are like bugs, if you let them multiply, soon they're everywhere.

ediet: dumb formatting

[Cekoviu]

Why bother taking likelihood into account? A man returning from the dead after crucifixion is unlikely, yet we still believe it happened.
Indulge us with other examples of immaculate birth if you wish.

"a man" bruh

"ya jesus was just a regular dude bruv"

[Northern Davincia]

Why bother taking likelihood into account? A man returning from the dead after crucifixion is unlikely, yet we still believe it happened.
Indulge us with other examples of immaculate birth if you wish.

"a man" bruh

Christ has two natures, and one of them is mortal. Him being the Son of God and a man are equally true.

[Italios]

so i guess I'm an instrumentalist then

nice knowing you, you will get cancelled in future.

all western left is poisoned by structuralism of all kinds. marxism no exception. one day on thsi thread we should organise a debate about labour theory of value vs marginal theory of value, I'm sure there would be LOTS of people willing to defend latter.

I really like marx, he had a lot of very interesting things to say and many predictions he made come true, but I can't follow him the way that most socialists do. he's just a guy in history who birthed a movement - there can be a socialism after marxism. i guess i would define my politics as post-marxist non-leftist socialism.

recently I have been thinking of joining the communist party but I don't really think I can take that step yet.

although this is the RWDT so of course, i'm open to discussion with the third positions and so on

yeah I don't mind talking to them on the internet. but I would rather just see them squashed IRL. fascists are like bugs, if you let them multiply, soon they're everywhere.

sweetie engels cancelled your type like 150 years ago with the anti-duehring

if you're ever bored, read this for some fun communist-nazi crossovers: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10 ... 8501500301

[United Muscovite Nations]

I'm not in favor of Japanese imperialism, but Japan's foreign policy in WWII was Mearsheimer & Morgenthau's wet dream.

[Auze]

Yeah, here's an improved version:

somehow worse and less accurate? didn't think that was possible but there u go

I try my best...





Maybe my experience was an outlier and I just knew the craziest 13 year-old girls in middle school, IDK