2020 US General Election Thread VII: Summer of Discontent

[San Lumen]

And what about people who lose their business, fall into poverty, of children who can’t eat dinner because their parents have to chose between rent or dinner?

Now you're just making an entirely different argument than before.

I was making the point Cooper needs to find a balance as he’s up for re-election in the fall

[Kannap]

If it saved lives? Yes.

I've lost (small) elections before. Bettering the lives of people is far, far more important than holding power. Anyone who says otherwise is an authoritarian and not to be trusted.

If you were in his position I doubt you feel the same way

No, you're right, I would certainly rather thousands of my constituents die than I lose power, glorious power, tasty power, ALL-MIGHTY POWER HANDED TO ME BY SUCKERS! MWAHAHAHAHAHA

[Kannap]

No, I certainly would.

Press x to doubt. I don’t think you’d want to lose re-election

New trolley problem:

On one line is your chances at reelection, the trolley is barrelling towards them with full force. You can't stop the trolley but you can switch it onto a secondary track where thousands of people are tied down.

Choose wisely.

[Kannap]

Now you're just making an entirely different argument than before.

I was making the point Cooper needs to find a balance as he’s up for re-election in the fall

Speaking as a North Carolinian here, who voted for Cooper and will vote for him again, it would be best to do whatever it takes to minimize needless loss of life. Balance be damned.

if Cooper has two options on the table and option #2 leaves more people dying than option #1, damn right he better pick option #1, and I'm sure he will - he's an honorable man.

[Cisairse]

Election is not a legitimate alternative to killing constituents.

And what about people who lose their business, fall into poverty, of children who can’t eat dinner because their parents have to chose between rent or dinner?

As governor you wouldn’t care?

Why are you assuming that none of that would happen if we didn't shut down businesses?

Protip: A fuck ton of people dying will crash the economy; in the long term WAY more than closing down businesses for a few months will.

[San Lumen]

And what about people who lose their business, fall into poverty, of children who can’t eat dinner because their parents have to chose between rent or dinner?

As governor you wouldn’t care?

Why are you assuming that none of that would happen if we didn't shut down businesses?

Protip: A fuck ton of people dying will crash the economy; in the long term WAY more than closing down businesses for a few months will.

and if he shuts everything down again he will crash the economy

[Vassenor]

And what about people who lose their business, fall into poverty, of children who can’t eat dinner because their parents have to chose between rent or dinner?

As governor you wouldn’t care?

Why are you assuming that none of that would happen if we didn't shut down businesses?

Protip: A fuck ton of people dying will crash the economy; in the long term WAY more than closing down businesses for a few months will.

But there will be live sports and music so it all balances out.

[Cisairse]

Why are you assuming that none of that would happen if we didn't shut down businesses?

Protip: A fuck ton of people dying will crash the economy; in the long term WAY more than closing down businesses for a few months will.

and if he shuts everything down again he will crash the economy

That's fine.

[San Lumen]

and if he shuts everything down again he will crash the economy

That's fine.

How would that in anyway be fine?

[Cisairse]

That's fine.

How would that in anyway be fine?

In the way that the alternative, letting large portions of your population die and thus crashing the economy, is much less fine.

[San Lumen]

How would that in anyway be fine?

In the way that the alternative, letting large portions of your population die and thus crashing the economy, is much less fine.

crashing the economy would cause far worse damage than the virus ever could

[Farnhamia]

In the way that the alternative, letting large portions of your population die and thus crashing the economy, is much less fine.

crashing the economy would cause far worse damage than the virus ever could

Haven't we been over this already?

[The Andromeda Island Group]

Speaking as a North Carolinian here, who voted for Cooper and will vote for him again, it would be best to do whatever it takes to minimize needless loss of life. Balance be damned.

if Cooper has two options on the table and option #2 leaves more people dying than option #1, damn right he better pick option #1, and I'm sure he will - he's an honorable man.

Choice #1 - You choose a candidate who can actually win an election and is the better of the two. This candidate, Joe Biden, if faced with the train analogy, would choose option #1.

Choice #2 - Stick by your "principles" and contribute to the Option 2 candidate, Donald Trump, winning re-election. After the Trump Triumph, you can rest easily knowing that the people who died on the train tracks were sacrificed needlessly in the name of smugness.

Choose wisely.

[Tokora]

If Trump loses but pardons himself before Biden's inauguration, will Biden have no choice but to abide by it?

[Cisairse]

If Trump loses but pardons himself before Biden's inauguration, will Biden have no choice but to abide by it?

It's unclear if a president can pardon themselves.

That being said, your question assumes (1) there are specific crimes Trump would be prosecuted for, and (2) Biden would direct the AG to prosecute Trump for those crimes. Both of those assumptions are questionable.

[San Lumen]

Speaking as a North Carolinian here, who voted for Cooper and will vote for him again, it would be best to do whatever it takes to minimize needless loss of life. Balance be damned.

if Cooper has two options on the table and option #2 leaves more people dying than option #1, damn right he better pick option #1, and I'm sure he will - he's an honorable man.

Choice #1 - You choose a candidate who can actually win an election and is the better of the two. This candidate, Joe Biden, if faced with the train analogy, would choose option #1.

Choice #2 - Stick by your "principles" and contribute to the Option 2 candidate, Donald Trump, winning re-election. After the Trump Triumph, you can rest easily knowing that the people who died on the train tracks were sacrificed needlessly in the name of smugness.

Choose wisely.

The Governor would be wise to chose option one

[San Lumen]

If Trump loses but pardons himself before Biden's inauguration, will Biden have no choice but to abide by it?

Yes a presidential pardon can't be undone as far as I know

[Valrifell]

Speaking as a North Carolinian here, who voted for Cooper and will vote for him again, it would be best to do whatever it takes to minimize needless loss of life. Balance be damned.

if Cooper has two options on the table and option #2 leaves more people dying than option #1, damn right he better pick option #1, and I'm sure he will - he's an honorable man.

Choice #1 - You choose a candidate who can actually win an election and is the better of the two. This candidate, Joe Biden, if faced with the train analogy, would choose option #1.

Choice #2 - Stick by your "principles" and contribute to the Option 2 candidate, Donald Trump, winning re-election. After the Trump Triumph, you can rest easily knowing that the people who died on the train tracks were sacrificed needlessly in the name of smugness.

Choose wisely.

I don't see the point in hammering people for their votes, particularly when it's unsolicited.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

I wonder how the inevitable political upheaval would look differently if Trump’s presidency was "stolen" versus if Biden’s presidency was "stolen" by faithless electors

Tea Party 2.0?

The upheaval in that scenario would make the Tea Party look like child’s play

[Cisairse]

Tea Party 2.0?

The upheaval in that scenario would make the Tea Party look like child’s play

implying it wasn't already

[Aureumterra]

And we will see political upheaval on scales not seen since Lincoln’s initial election

Good, maybe then we could see real change.

I don’t think its the change you like

[Cisairse]

Good, maybe then we could see real change.

I don’t think its the change you like

Damn.

[Jedi Council]

New poll shows Trump, Cotton, approval ratings underwater in Arkansas, Trump leading Biden by 2% (47-45) with only 3% undecided.

Probably an outlier, but I mean, those are some pretty bonkers results.

[San Lumen]

New poll shows Trump, Cotton, approval ratings underwater in Arkansas, Trump leading Biden by 2% (47-45) with only 3% undecided.

Probably an outlier, but I mean, those are some pretty bonkers results.

I really hope Arkansas is that close. That would be a Biden landslide and means Democrats are probably flipping Arkansas second district

[Kannap]

Speaking as a North Carolinian here, who voted for Cooper and will vote for him again, it would be best to do whatever it takes to minimize needless loss of life. Balance be damned.

if Cooper has two options on the table and option #2 leaves more people dying than option #1, damn right he better pick option #1, and I'm sure he will - he's an honorable man.

Choice #1 - You choose a candidate who can actually win an election and is the better of the two. This candidate, Joe Biden, if faced with the train analogy, would choose option #1.

Choice #2 - Stick by your "principles" and contribute to the Option 2 candidate, Donald Trump, winning re-election. After the Trump Triumph, you can rest easily knowing that the people who died on the train tracks were sacrificed needlessly in the name of smugness.

Choose wisely.

We're discussing Governor Roy Cooper and what he decides to do about coronavirus and how that effects his chances at reelection, I don't know what you're going on about.