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Postby Drop Your Pants » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:09 am

The other thing to note is NPO branches into many different games, we're not just limited to NS. As has been seen in the past, players can be called from different games in a pinch. Doubt CCD has those resources to call on.
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Postby The Church of Satan » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:06 pm

Drop Your Pants wrote:The other thing to note is NPO branches into many different games, we're not just limited to NS. As has been seen in the past, players can be called from different games in a pinch. Doubt CCD has those resources to call on.

I can't help but wonder what players from other games think when the NPO calls them over here.

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Postby Wabbitslayah » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:29 pm

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Rossiyaana wrote:I find it hilarious that you somehow feel qualified to comment on the recruitment practices of the GCRs-- which you yourself have next to no experience with. The goal of the NPO is not to get as many endorsements on our Delegate as possible, rather to find nations that will fit in in The Pacific and work for the betterment of the Order. Regardless we still have nearly quadruple your endorsements, so respectfully: focus on the CCD instead of the recruitment practices of our Region, and keep it out of our Embassy thread. As Xori said if you have legitimate concerns post them, otherwise discuss your "grievances" in your own thread.

As something I have been told in the CCD thread, there's no thread ownership in gameplay. If I want to discuss the policies of NPO, here is the place to do so :)

Sure, you're right. But you're just gonna get shot down over and over. To be fair, I think that will happen to you anyways because people seem to dislike you, but moreso if it's a terrible discussion point you bring up.
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Bowzin
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Postby Bowzin » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:59 pm

The Church of Satan wrote:
Drop Your Pants wrote:The other thing to note is NPO branches into many different games, we're not just limited to NS. As has been seen in the past, players can be called from different games in a pinch. Doubt CCD has those resources to call on.

I can't help but wonder what players from other games think when the NPO calls them over here.

Enthusiasm: Alright! I could use some excitement!
Apathy: I'll go but I won't like it.
Frustration: Ugh! I can't believe I have to go over there...again!

When I get called over to do things in this game I feel frustration...and this is the only game I play!
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ShrewLlamaLand
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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:09 pm

Wabbitslayah wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:As something I have been told in the CCD thread, there's no thread ownership in gameplay. If I want to discuss the policies of NPO, here is the place to do so :)

Sure, you're right. But you're just gonna get shot down over and over. To be fair, I think that will happen to you anyways because people seem to dislike you, but moreso if it's a terrible discussion point you bring up.

I don't see a problem with that, I'm pretty used to it. No idea why people dislike me but oh well.
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Postby Badivermeraed » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:12 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
Wabbitslayah wrote:Sure, you're right. But you're just gonna get shot down over and over. To be fair, I think that will happen to you anyways because people seem to dislike you, but moreso if it's a terrible discussion point you bring up.

I don't see a problem with that, I'm pretty used to it. No idea why people dislike me but oh well.


Maybe the smug replying and association with the CCD has to do something with it?
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Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:22 pm

Badivermeraed wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:I don't see a problem with that, I'm pretty used to it. No idea why people dislike me but oh well.


Maybe the smug replying and association with the CCD has to do something with it?

I had no idea I come off as smug? And what's wrong with CCD - they have great champagne?
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Postby Badivermeraed » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:23 pm

ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
Badivermeraed wrote:
Maybe the smug replying and association with the CCD has to do something with it?

I had no idea I come off as smug? And what's wrong with CCD - they have great champagne?


Lol, this is the very example of a smug reply. Congratulations, you've played yourself.
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Postby MineLegotia and Equestria » Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:07 am

Drop Your Pants wrote:The other thing to note is NPO branches into many different games, we're not just limited to NS. As has been seen in the past, players can be called from different games in a pinch. Doubt CCD has those resources to call on.

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Postby Flanderlion » Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:02 am

MineLegotia and Equestria wrote:
Drop Your Pants wrote:The other thing to note is NPO branches into many different games, we're not just limited to NS. As has been seen in the past, players can be called from different games in a pinch. Doubt CCD has those resources to call on.

*angry grumbling from past experiences in Cybernations and Politics&War*

We still exist in one of those, but we've been torn away from the other due to dodgy admin practices.
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Postby Domais » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:22 am

Flanderlion wrote:We still exist in one of those, but we've been torn away from the other due to dodgy admin practices.

Don't you still have an AA on PnW but it's just an archival type AA, to stop others from re-making it?
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Postby Jar Wattinree » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:52 am

Flanderlion wrote:
MineLegotia and Equestria wrote:*angry grumbling from past experiences in Cybernations and Politics&War*

We still exist in one of those, but we've been torn away from the other due to dodgy admin practices.

I see what you did there.
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Postby Xoriet » Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:04 pm

Domais wrote:
Flanderlion wrote:We still exist in one of those, but we've been torn away from the other due to dodgy admin practices.

Don't you still have an AA on PnW but it's just an archival type AA, to stop others from re-making it?

Yes, since you can't reserve names. Once the nation or the alliance is deleted, it's free to be remade by anyone else. NS has it right by holding names, especially deleted or ones that met a certain qualification.

I don't think this thread should be turning into discussing our presence or lack thereof in other games if they're not relevant to current events in NS though, related to us or not.
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Postby Xoriet » Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:41 pm

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Imperial Statement on Pax Capricorn


The New Pacific Order and The South Pacific have reached a consensus that it is within mutual interests to commit to a policy of nonaggression to one other. As laid down in this document, and in all future undertakings, the New Pacific Order pledges to recognize the reigning government of the other signatory as the sole body governing The South Pacific as well as an entity that we will never work against in any harmful capacity, particularly in those provisions hereby inscribed. This is, to us, a symbol of a renewed sense of mutual trust and regard that has justifiably taken time to repair after the revelations of 2018. The New Pacific Order will wholly strive to make it such that this decision is beneficial to The South Pacific and itself in perpetuity.

One significant aspect of this moment is that this nonaggression pact will ideally to be another step into a world where the imperialistic ambitions of the past are no longer the definition of the New Pacific Order. The Order greatly respects and appreciates The South Pacific, both for being an upstanding region in itself and for providing the opportunity to further demonstrate the fruit of a change within our community that began over a year ago and continues to this day.

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Postby The Seeker of Power » Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:47 pm

I want to thank The South Pacific for their will to work with us and achieve this agreement. I look forward to further develop our relationship with you!
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Postby Daytime to Night » Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:12 am

The Seeker of Power wrote:I want to thank The South Pacific for their will to work with us and achieve this agreement. I look forward to further develop our relationship with you!


And us with you!

(please help us with the hugging epidemic)
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Postby Wabbitslayah » Tue Apr 28, 2020 12:33 am

Daytime to Night wrote:
The Seeker of Power wrote:I want to thank The South Pacific for their will to work with us and achieve this agreement. I look forward to further develop our relationship with you!


And us with you!

(please help us with the hugging epidemic)

Elegarth is the last person to help with that...
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The Seeker of Power
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Postby The Seeker of Power » Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:05 am

Wabbitslayah wrote:
Daytime to Night wrote:
And us with you!

(please help us with the hugging epidemic)

Elegarth is the last person to help with that...

True story xDDDDD
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Postby The Seeker of Power » Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:53 pm

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Dear friends, esteemed enemies and beloved bystanders,

It is with great pleasure that I come today to announce the next step in the relationship of the two regions that I hold most dear in my heart. The West Best Pacific and the Pacific, Better Together. I want to personally thank Bran Astor and TWP's Governments for their time and efforts in creating this document. I hope to see our communities becoming closer and closer. As former Delegate of TWP and a TWPer at heart, and as Current Consul of the New Pacific Order and a long time Pacifican: I couldn't be happier :)



Better Together

Preamble

The New Pacific Order, as represented by the Emperor, His Senate and the Charter of the New Pacific Order, hereby enters into this accord as the sole legitimate government of the Pacific,

Bran Astor, his Manner of Governance, and rightfully chosen successors hereby enter this accord as the sole legitimate government of The West Pacific.

Article I - Cultural Exchange

In general, interregional events and collaboration between signatories will be actively encouraged and supported.

In particular, the signatories commit to the creation of a calendar of dates reserved for bi-regional and multiregional events within thirty days of ratification, to be adjusted as needed, and dedicate the wholehearted effort of their government to actualize such events.

Article II - World Assembly

In general, signatories will discuss World Assembly proposals and votes, and will work towards both regions’ interests in the World Assembly when possible. Neither signatory shall be forced to vote against their interests.

In particular, a joint task force shall be established within the first 30 days post-ratification with the intention of creating joint resolutions and repeals for both the Security Council and General Assembly.

Joint military operations to disrupt quorums are expressly sanctioned.

Article III - University

In general, signatories will collaborate, exchange citizens, and promote knowledgebase learning within universities and cultural events. The signatories will promote mutual development of key resources, leadership knowledge, and appreciation of the other’s unique cultural strengths.

In particular, key exercises and exchange programs will be conducted to celebrate and advance each signatory's diversity and success. Such exercises shall begin to be phased-in within 45 days of ratification.

Article IV - Mutual Defense

Mutual defense shall be provided against hostile regions or organizations engaged in attempted sabotage, blackmail, or espionage upon request of either signatory.
Intelligence concerning the other signatory shall be shared. In particular, information from any source of an attempt to harm or that is engineered to harm the other signatory is expected to be shared. Intelligence not concerning the other signatory is recommended to be shared when prudent.

Where a signatory is a treaty ally to a region or organization engaged in hostilities or aggression with the other signatory, opting for neutrality is explicitly allowed. All intelligence sharing requirements remain in force in the case of such neutrality.

The defense of a signatory will be made priority of the other signatory in the event of a third party attempt to overthrow either signatory. This explicitly includes a re-evaluation of neutrality due to a pre-existing treaty option of neutrality.

Article V - Military Cooperation

Joint operations will be conducted in interest of furthering good relations, encouraging increased military experience, and to cooperate in a spirit of goodwill. Both signatories acknowledge their respective ideological preferences.

In general, neither signatory will censure the other for participation on an opposing side of an operation, nor will either signatory pressure the other for support of an operation against the working preferences of its military. Operations initiating or supporting deliberate hostilities against the other signatory shall be actively avoided.

Also in particular, signatories agree to keep the military intelligence of the other classified and will not share without consent.

Article VI - Termination

This accord may be terminated by either signatory at any time. This accord shall remain in effect for two full days (forty-eight hours) following notification of cancellation. Notification will be given privately to the opposite signatory's government.

This accord will sunset one year after ratification, unless both parties agree to continue the provisions of this accord for another year.

Article VII - Amendment & Ratification

The signatories may by simple agreement modify any provisions of this accord.

By the signatures below, this accord is ratified:

East Durthang, Emperor
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The Seeker of Power, Consul
Xoriet, Legatus

Bran Astor, Delegate
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EDIT: Format looks MUCH better here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1387248
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Big Bad Badger
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Postby Big Bad Badger » Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:06 pm

Hail!

I am really glad to see this put together! Great work!

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Dilber
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Postby Dilber » Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:25 pm

Hail!

I am really glad to have this out. It's been a pleasure working out the details, and I am looking forward to our continued cooperation.

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Postby Tinhampton » Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:01 pm

No comment.

Better Together is a fairly unusual name with a treaty, most of which have words like "Treaty" or "Accord" in their names. What is the significance of this title to NPO and TWP?
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Postby Boda » Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:05 pm

Tinhampton wrote:No comment.

Better Together is a fairly unusual name with a treaty, most of which have words like "Treaty" or "Accord" in their names. What is the significance of this title to NPO and TWP?

It's... A treaty...
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Postby Big Bad Badger » Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:16 pm

Tinhampton wrote:No comment.

Better Together is a fairly unusual name with a treaty, most of which have words like "Treaty" or "Accord" in their names. What is the significance of this title to NPO and TWP?

What is Tinhampton asking passive aggressive questions, Alex?
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Postby Wayneactia » Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:27 pm

Tinhampton wrote:No comment.

Better Together is a fairly unusual name with a treaty, most of which have words like "Treaty" or "Accord" in their names. What is the significance of this title to NPO and TWP?

What is the significance of your question, is the better question.

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