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Is antifa a terrorist group and should it be banned?

Antifa should be designated a terrorist group and it should be banned.
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Antifa can stay as it is, but it shouldn’t be so violent.
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Antifa is doing good and nothing should happen.
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Antifa should be given positions of power.
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9%
What is Antifa?
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Other (state down below)
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Is Antifa a terrorist group and should it be banned?

Postby Neuer Deutsches Reich » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:04 pm

Antifa has been blamed for the looting, chaos and violence in the protests going on around the world. They already were known to be a extremist violent group. Antifa is the anti-fascist organization for those who don’t know. Some people think that they are doing good, but a lot of people think that they themselves are acting like fascists. Wearing black, marching trough the streets with flags and torches, fighting with other groups and people standing in their way. When news try to interview the groups it results in the camera being blocked and the interviewer being hit, freedom of speech is something they don’t like. A bigger and bigger group thinks these extremists and their group should be banned, what do you think?
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:08 pm

Antifa means antifascist. Many antifascist groups exist and while some are violent, some are peaceful. Criminalizing antifa would basically mean being against fascism is illegal, and it's one of the dumbest things the fucking dipshit we call a president has suggested. What should be asked is "is Rose City Antifa a terror group?" Technically they are because they commit violence for political reasons but they're honestly no more dangerous than a street gang. These guys are pretty embarrassing for terrorists. Don't give them the satisfaction of being labeled terrorists, and don't give our president the power to basically crush out descent under the guise of security.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:10 pm

AntiFa is an unified organization?

Since when?
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:11 pm

No it would only make them cooler and feed into the left-revolutionary aesthetic.
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Postby Nevertopia » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:15 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:AntiFa is an unified organization?

Since when?


my sentiments exactly. Antifa isnt a terrorist organization, its just random people protesting making random people decisions.
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Postby Eahland » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:15 pm

There's a word for people who are anti-anti-fascist.
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Postby Grenartia » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:18 pm

Antifa are the good guys, and it should be mentioned that an overwhelming majority of the time these protests turn violent, the cops, either overtly or covertly (or neonazis), are instigating it. See: AutoZone guy.
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Postby Kowani » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:21 pm

Antifa can’t be a terrorist organization until they get their checks from the CIA .
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Postby Nakena » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:22 pm

Antifa isn't a centralized entity, but more of a franchise of which various groups or people consider themself part of. Or not.

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Postby Estanglia » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:23 pm

Depends.

Individual groups claiming to be anti-fascist? Potentially.

Antifa as a whole? Since there's no whole, unified, organised Antifa, that would be impossible unless you want to ban any and all forms of antifascism, or all groups calling themselves antifascist.
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Postby South Reinkalistan » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:24 pm

Antifa cannot be a "terrorist organisation", as it is not an "organisation" to begin with.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:26 pm

Are we gonna declare Liberterianism a terror group next? This was as dumb as Trump unironically trying to find the CEO of racism.
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Postby Dollystana » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:26 pm

This is only distracting from the real terrorists, Al-Aardvarkia! They caused 9/11 and all aardvarks are members!
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Postby Elsa De Arendelle » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:27 pm

If they oppose freedom of speech, then they are evil and should be stopped.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:27 pm

Dollystana wrote:This is only distracting from the real terrorists, Al-Aardvarkia! They caused 9/11 and all aardvarks are members!


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Postby Czechostan » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:29 pm

1. Antifa isn't a single, top-down organization but a horizontal movement of autonomous groups.

2. Although right-wingers like to harp on Antifa using violent tactics, people from Antifa do a lot more, like making hand-sanitizer for essential workers and organizing relief networks for victims of Hurricane Harvey.

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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:29 pm

It isn't an organiza...

*sees multiple posts saying that exact same thing already*

...oh. OK.
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:30 pm

The New California Republic wrote:It isn't an organiza...

*sees multiple posts saying that exact same thing already*

...oh. OK.


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Postby South Reinkalistan » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:30 pm

Elsa De Arendelle wrote:If they oppose freedom of speech, then they are evil and should be stopped.

I can't imagine fascists would impose free speech upon a society. If antifa wants to deplatform and shut down fascists, does that still make them evil?
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Postby Nakena » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:33 pm

The major problem is the tendency of some antifa-groups and individuals to attack people way beyond lets say some Neo-Nazi thugs or kluxers.

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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:34 pm

They are not terrorists, they only support terrorism. Those who support fascist baby killers can never fight fascism
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Postby Stalliongrad and Far-Eastern Territories » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:38 pm

Banning anti-fascism sounds like a remarkably bad idea for anyone who isn't a fascist.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:38 pm

South Reinkalistan wrote:
Elsa De Arendelle wrote:If they oppose freedom of speech, then they are evil and should be stopped.

I can't imagine fascists would impose free speech upon a society. If antifa wants to deplatform and shut down fascists, does that still make them evil?


Evil no. Wrong yes. Even fascists should be allowed to speak. When we let the craziest people on all sides speak we know our ideas are probably safe, and besides, don't you wanna know who the racists are so you can steer clear of them?
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:39 pm

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:They are not terrorists, they only support terrorism. Those who support fascist baby killers can never fight fascism


Oh no, I forgot. You think the YPG possibly supporting the PKK who bomb police are somehow fascist.
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Postby Heloin » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:39 pm

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:They are not terrorists, they only support terrorism. Those who support fascist baby killers can never fight fascism

Only good people in that picture. Try again.

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