America riots after Police kill unarmed Black Man

[Audioslavia]

Yes, it does.
Every time, every where.

I should have assumed someone who claims to be King of the Incles has an incredibly disgusting disregard for human life.

If someone makes a ridiculous argument, attack the argument. Don't attack the user. This is an unofficial warning for flaming.

Retired police captain shot and killed trying to protect
Okay I swear true protestors need to start beating the ever loving shit out of looters, they aren't helping the cause and are only making things much fucking worse. I'm not sure if this was posted in this forum yet or not but jesus, killing someone over a fucking store.

Emphasis mine.
I appreciate you're angry, but this is a reminder that advocating for violence / death / illegal activity is against site rules.

[Kernen]

And they can stop anyone they see and ask them what they are doing. A lot of videos of the looters have them chilling by a store waiting for the cops to leave then looting.

People need to protect their store more when the cops aren't around. Hell use a claymore if you have to

This is a policy I can support.

[Gormwood]

Top Republican senators defend Trump's church photo-op after peaceful protesters cleared out

Once again the cultists in the Senate fall in line.

[San Lumen]

Top Republican senators defend Trump's church photo-op after peaceful protesters cleared out

Once again the cultists in the Senate fall in line.

I hope they are decimated in the fall

[Audioslavia]

If English isn't your first language I apologize that not a direct assault it is a play on popular phrase. I do often forget we have people who are still learning English and are not familiar with such things here.

Turning around was fractions of a second.

The 'English isn't your first language' line isn't as clever as you think it is. It's also worthy of a *** three day ban *** for trolling.

[Greed and Death]

And they can stop anyone they see and ask them what they are doing. A lot of videos of the looters have them chilling by a store waiting for the cops to leave then looting.

People need to protect their store more when the cops aren't around. Hell use a claymore if you have to

A bit much even for me shotguns though would work.

[Farnhamia]

People need to protect their store more when the cops aren't around. Hell use a claymore if you have to

A bit much even for me shotguns though would work.

If you hadn't just been banned for something else, this would have earned you some time off.

And that's enough with the "shoot 'em up" crap, people. Advocating violence has never been allowed here.

[Kernen]

A bit much even for me shotguns though would work.

If you hadn't just been banned for something else, this would have earned you some time off.

And that's enough with the "shoot 'em up" crap, people. Advocating violence has never been allowed here.

Is it advocating violence to argue that people should have the means and authority to protect their property?

[Andsed]

That's indirect.

Direct would mean that the community can hold the police accountable without depending upon anyone other than themselves. Like an election, where the only thing needed to fire a police officer is enough of the community saying so.
Indirect means they need something other than the community to hold the police accountable.

A sheriff is indirect, since the community have to depend on the sheriff to hold the police accountable, rather than hold the police accountable themselves.

If no sheriff they could possibly elect will hold the police accountable, the police will not be held accountable, no matter how much the people desire it.



Either elected or there's mechanisms in place for the community to remove them/reverse their rules.



Agreed.

A sheriff sets policy. I dont see why that's not enough

If this is such a great policy you advocate then people can get a referendum and put it on the ballot in their city or county

Why should they all be elected for mechanisms in place to remove or reverse their rules? Governors are elected and they appoint people to boards and to lead government agencies. If your going to have a system in place to remove them or vote on their rules you run the risk of nothing ever getting done and them constantly being overruled. if your dont look whose there vote out the governor or mayor

Yes. And we don´t need to. The people should have some kind of direct(and by that not just electing a sheriff or DA) way to check the police and hold them accountable. Whether it be what I suggest or something else there just need to be a way for us to hold the police accountable when they do this kind of shit as the police and government have time and time again failed to do so.

go put a referendum on the ballot in your city or county with such a proposal

That presumes there are better available DAs and AGs.

And why hope that there are better DAs and AGs, when you can change the rules so the community doesn't have to hope that someone comes along who is good enough, they can just do it themselves?

Because that is what an election is for. if you don't like whose in office vote them out or if you dont like whose running run yourself.

As long as you have a law degree and are a licensed attorney you can run for DA or AG.

A sheriff sets policy. I dont see why that's not enough

Because there is no guarantee they will or can follow through with the promise they make and the only response is to elect someone else who could just do the same thing.

If this is such a great policy you advocate then people can get a referendum and put it on the ballot in their city or county

Okay? Don´t see what your point is here but okay?

Because that is what an election is for.

Well the election is not enough then.

if you don't like whose in office vote them out

And then what? Bring in someone else who also likely won´t follow through?

if you don't like whose in office vote them out or if you dont like whose running run yourself.

As long as you have a law degree and are a licensed attorney you can run for DA or AG.

Oh yeah let me go get a law degree real quick because we all know that is super easy.

[Kernen]

Oh yeah let me go get a law degree real quick because we all know that is super easy.

Based on at least one of my classmates, you'll be fine.

Two weeks from graduation and she still couldn't tell the difference between Overruled and Sustained in an objection.

[Slavakino]

People need to protect their store more when the cops aren't around. Hell use a claymore if you have to

A bit much even for me shotguns though would work.

Only problem with defending yourself and store with a firearm is you need someone on for the night. Unless you are electronically and mechanically educated you could pull a Walter White whenever someone breaks into your store and have an automatically firing gun

[San Lumen]

A sheriff sets policy. I dont see why that's not enough

If this is such a great policy you advocate then people can get a referendum and put it on the ballot in their city or county

Why should they all be elected for mechanisms in place to remove or reverse their rules? Governors are elected and they appoint people to boards and to lead government agencies. If your going to have a system in place to remove them or vote on their rules you run the risk of nothing ever getting done and them constantly being overruled. if your dont look whose there vote out the governor or mayor


go put a referendum on the ballot in your city or county with such a proposal


Because that is what an election is for. if you don't like whose in office vote them out or if you dont like whose running run yourself.

As long as you have a law degree and are a licensed attorney you can run for DA or AG.

A sheriff sets policy. I dont see why that's not enough

Because there is no guarantee they will or can follow through with the promise they make and the only response is to elect someone else who could just do the same thing.

If this is such a great policy you advocate then people can get a referendum and put it on the ballot in their city or county

Okay? Don´t see what your point is here but okay?

Because that is what an election is for.

Well the election is not enough then.

if you don't like whose in office vote them out

And then what? Bring in someone else who also likely won´t follow through?

if you don't like whose in office vote them out or if you dont like whose running run yourself.

As long as you have a law degree and are a licensed attorney you can run for DA or AG.

Oh yeah let me go get a law degree real quick because we all know that is super easy.

If they are accountable to the people I would think the sheriff would want to keep their job and not do unpopular things. That sheriff in Genesee County is getting reelected for sure after he marched with protesters

How do you know they wont follow through?

A referendum is the only way such a policy like your advocating will happen

we should have someone who knows the law be elected sheriff or DA and not some random person off the street. Having a coroner with no medical background is bad enough a DA or sheriff with no relevant education or experience is even worse.l

[King of the Incels]

A bit much even for me shotguns though would work.

Only problem with defending yourself and store with a firearm is you need someone on for the night. Unless you are electronically and mechanically educated you could pull a Walter White whenever someone breaks into your store and have an automatically firing gun

Just go prince of Persia and install an elaborate labyrinth with jumps and spike traps.

Can white non binary hopscotch laundry detergents jump?
What about for some Nike's.

[Slavakino]

Only problem with defending yourself and store with a firearm is you need someone on for the night. Unless you are electronically and mechanically educated you could pull a Walter White whenever someone breaks into your store and have an automatically firing gun

Just go prince of Persia and install an elaborate labyrinth with jumps and spike traps.

Can white non binary hopscotch laundry detergents jump?
What about for some Nike's.

If you are feeling cruel you can place mines around your store

[Satuga]

I should have assumed someone who claims to be King of the Incles has an incredibly disgusting disregard for human life.

If someone makes a ridiculous argument, attack the argument. Don't attack the user. This is an unofficial warning for flaming.

Retired police captain shot and killed trying to protect
Okay I swear true protestors need to start beating the ever loving shit out of looters, they aren't helping the cause and are only making things much fucking worse. I'm not sure if this was posted in this forum yet or not but jesus, killing someone over a fucking store.

Emphasis mine.
I appreciate you're angry, but this is a reminder that advocating for violence / death / illegal activity is against site rules.

Yeah that's my fault got a bit hostile there, my apologies.

[Nakena]

Some livestream from a (so far peaceful) protest in front of the White House

[King of the Incels]

Just go prince of Persia and install an elaborate labyrinth with jumps and spike traps.

Can white non binary hopscotch laundry detergents jump?
What about for some Nike's.

If you are feeling cruel you can place mines around your store

Dwarf fortress, nice.
Don't really have use for the metals though.

[Andsed]

Because there is no guarantee they will or can follow through with the promise they make and the only response is to elect someone else who could just do the same thing.


Okay? Don´t see what your point is here but okay?



Well the election is not enough then.


And then what? Bring in someone else who also likely won´t follow through?


Oh yeah let me go get a law degree real quick because we all know that is super easy.

If they are accountable to the people I would think the sheriff would want to keep their job and not do unpopular things. That sheriff in Genesee County is getting reelected for sure after he marched with protesters

How do you know they wont follow through?

A referendum is the only way such a policy like your advocating will happen

we should have someone who knows the law be elected sheriff or DA and not some random person off the street. Having a coroner with no medical background is bad enough a DA or sheriff with no relevant education or experience is even worse.l

Do all politicians follow through on their promises and avoid doing stupid or unpopular things? No they do not and it is the same with sheriffs and when that happens we have no way to fixing it other than voting in someone else who could just do the same thing.

I do not know that. But we also do not know if they will making one of our only ways to hold the police accountable a simple gamble. Do you see the issue with that?

And yes I don´t disagree that the DA or Sheriff should know what their doing. My point is not just anyone can become one and many of the people who do may not be qualified or able to do what is needed. Which I think we need a more direct way for the people to hold the police accountable. Not just electing someone and hoping they follow through.

[Farnhamia]

If you hadn't just been banned for something else, this would have earned you some time off.

And that's enough with the "shoot 'em up" crap, people. Advocating violence has never been allowed here.

Is it advocating violence to argue that people should have the means and authority to protect their property?

No, but specifying such means, essentially saying, "People should plant land mines to defend their property" is.

[Farnhamia]

Just go prince of Persia and install an elaborate labyrinth with jumps and spike traps.

Can white non binary hopscotch laundry detergents jump?
What about for some Nike's.

If you are feeling cruel you can place mines around your store

*** 3 day ban for advocating violence and extra-judicial killing. ***

[Thermodolia]

Just go prince of Persia and install an elaborate labyrinth with jumps and spike traps.

Can white non binary hopscotch laundry detergents jump?
What about for some Nike's.

If you are feeling cruel you can place mines around your store

Jesus H Christ dude

[San Lumen]

If they are accountable to the people I would think the sheriff would want to keep their job and not do unpopular things. That sheriff in Genesee County is getting reelected for sure after he marched with protesters

How do you know they wont follow through?

A referendum is the only way such a policy like your advocating will happen

we should have someone who knows the law be elected sheriff or DA and not some random person off the street. Having a coroner with no medical background is bad enough a DA or sheriff with no relevant education or experience is even worse.l

Do all politicians follow through on their promises and avoid doing stupid or unpopular things? No they do not and it is the same with sheriffs and when that happens we have no way to fixing it other than voting in someone else who could just do the same thing.

I do not know that. But we also do not know if they will making one of our only ways to hold the police accountable a simple gamble. Do you see the issue with that?

And yes I don´t disagree that the DA or Sheriff should know what their doing. My point is not just anyone can become one and many of the people who do may not be qualified or able to do what is needed. Which I think we need a more direct way for the people to hold the police accountable. Not just electing someone and hoping they follow through.

Vote them out then

I do see an issue but the proposed idea is wide open to abuse.

[Gormwood]

If you are feeling cruel you can place mines around your store

Jesus H Christ dude

And like Jesus, he will be back in 3 days.

[Gormwood]

Do all politicians follow through on their promises and avoid doing stupid or unpopular things? No they do not and it is the same with sheriffs and when that happens we have no way to fixing it other than voting in someone else who could just do the same thing.

I do not know that. But we also do not know if they will making one of our only ways to hold the police accountable a simple gamble. Do you see the issue with that?

And yes I don´t disagree that the DA or Sheriff should know what their doing. My point is not just anyone can become one and many of the people who do may not be qualified or able to do what is needed. Which I think we need a more direct way for the people to hold the police accountable. Not just electing someone and hoping they follow through.

Vote them out then

I do see an issue but the proposed idea is wide open to abuse.

And here I thought only red staters thought electing law enforcement officials is a brilliant idea.

[Estanglia]

Do all politicians follow through on their promises and avoid doing stupid or unpopular things? No they do not and it is the same with sheriffs and when that happens we have no way to fixing it other than voting in someone else who could just do the same thing.

I do not know that. But we also do not know if they will making one of our only ways to hold the police accountable a simple gamble. Do you see the issue with that?

And yes I don´t disagree that the DA or Sheriff should know what their doing. My point is not just anyone can become one and many of the people who do may not be qualified or able to do what is needed. Which I think we need a more direct way for the people to hold the police accountable. Not just electing someone and hoping they follow through.

Vote them out then

I do see an issue but the proposed idea is wide open to abuse.

You've (as far as I remember) not yet provided an example of the abuse that can occur, nor how the proposed system is wide open to abuse.