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Postby The Alma Mater » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:19 am

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The Alma Mater wrote:I have used that example in the other topic, and the answer given was no - because it reflected poorly on the jews.
That they would be exterminated anyway was not considered relevant.

It reflected poorly on the jews that they decided to fight for freedom instead of dieing on there knees?

Thats uh, not a great answer.

Nope. It was not.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:19 am

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Slavakino wrote:Apparently big company or gov buildings are "justified" which is dogshit. Any violent riot should be stopped, a peaceful demonstration is fine but riots? No

I really do not get this whole "if party A has been consistently abusing and killing party B, party B has to be peaceful and just wait until party A decides to stop" line of reasoning.

Well, no. I understand why it is convenient for party A - but no why anyone would think party B would keep falling for it.

Similar to how Stonewall was an understandable reaction to the years of shit that the fuzz had been dishing out.
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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:21 am

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The Washington Monument fire was fake, it’s the capital bombing scene from the Netflix show Designated Survivor


It is a really poor fake too you can tell it is a laptop screen.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:21 am

The WW2 memorial being vandalized was the last straw for me. It felt like a personal attack since I was a war veteran. I’m tempted to go out and protect some businesses in my area
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Postby Slavakino » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:22 am

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:The WW2 memorial being vandalized was the last straw for me. It felt like a personal attack since I was a war veteran. I’m tempted to go out and protect some businesses in my area

Attacking historical buildings is fucking low
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:23 am

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Crowd control is quite clearly only making things worse.

Yeah but what if we did even more aggressive crowd control using the military eh? Eh?

Actually using the military would be change for the better since the military is actually more restrained than the police.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:23 am

The DC blackout trending on twitter is fake as well, bottom line, don’t listen to anything twitter says
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:24 am

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:The DC blackout trending on twitter is fake as well, bottom line, don’t listen to anything twitter says


Unless Trump says it, apparently.
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Postby Dresderstan » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:24 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Liriena wrote:Yeah but what if we did even more aggressive crowd control using the military eh? Eh?

Actually using the military would be change for the better since the military is actually more restrained than the police.

This is actually true, in the military you are told not to fire unless fired upon.

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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:24 am

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Liriena wrote:Yeah but what if we did even more aggressive crowd control using the military eh? Eh?

Actually using the military would be change for the better since the military is actually more restrained than the police.


I have my doubts there. Military rules of engagement generally have the military not involved but once those rules of engagement are triggered they tend to go to full force.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:25 am

Slavakino wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Do we still have people here saying decades of oppression justifies burning down random small businesses? Or is that indefensible by now?

Apparently big company or gov buildings are "justified" which is dogshit. Any violent riot should be stopped, a peaceful demonstration is fine but riots? No


I asked another poster whether corporate or government buildings were inherently less valuable than individually owned property.

I did not state it as a fact. Rather I was exploring the logical consequences of their statement:

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Property damage is damage to the human beings who own the property, via financial and emotional damage.


But I don't expect any thought or nuanced answer from you, about whether who owns the property has any influence on its "financial and emotional" value.

I think all I'm going to get from you is "that's dogshit". But it would be nice if you had such passion in the defense of human lives ...
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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:25 am

Vassenor wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:The DC blackout trending on twitter is fake as well, bottom line, don’t listen to anything twitter says


Unless Trump says it, apparently.

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You mean like people do whenever Trump says anything?


Fantastic reply Vass, yet again you set new standards for discussion and debate here on NS. Maybe you'll grace us with more than a sentence of snark next time!
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Postby The Alma Mater » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:26 am

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The Alma Mater wrote:I really do not get this whole "if party A has been consistently abusing and killing party B, party B has to be peaceful and just wait until party A decides to stop" line of reasoning.

Well, no. I understand why it is convenient for party A - but no why anyone would think party B would keep falling for it.

Similar to how Stonewall was an understandable reaction to the years of shit that the fuzz had been dishing out.

Indeed.
Also note how it actually worked. A short burst of violence achieved just as much, if not much more, than decades of peaceful talks.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:29 am

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Thermodolia wrote:Actually using the military would be change for the better since the military is actually more restrained than the police.


I have my doubts there. Military rules of engagement generally have the military not involved but once those rules of engagement are triggered they tend to go to full force.


I think so too. They're heavily trained to engage the enemy as though the enemy is well-armed and trying to kill them.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:29 am

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Vassenor wrote:
Unless Trump says it, apparently.

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Fantastic reply Vass, yet again you set new standards for discussion and debate here on NS. Maybe you'll grace us with more than a sentence of snark next time!


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Postby Slavakino » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:29 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Liriena wrote:Yeah but what if we did even more aggressive crowd control using the military eh? Eh?

Actually using the military would be change for the better since the military is actually more restrained than the police.

And disciplined, trained as well as able to not executively show emotion to the point they beat people.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:30 am

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:The WW2 memorial being vandalized was the last straw for me. It felt like a personal attack since I was a war veteran. I’m tempted to go out and protect some businesses in my area

Yeah that is really low.

Don't ever vandalize war memorials.

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Postby Slavakino » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:31 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:The WW2 memorial being vandalized was the last straw for me. It felt like a personal attack since I was a war veteran. I’m tempted to go out and protect some businesses in my area

Yeah that is really low.

Don't ever vandalize war memorials.

Its as bad as literally spitting on a grave
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:32 am

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:The WW2 memorial being vandalized was the last straw for me. It felt like a personal attack since I was a war veteran. I’m tempted to go out and protect some businesses in my area


Why is that the last straw? I mean on one hand you have people's businesses and jobs being scorched and torched, and innocents being beaten in the streets. On the other you have decades of systemic oppression and brutality on full display before our very eyes, but now that they've spray painted a piece of marble that's almost trivially easy to clean, now you're upset?
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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:33 am

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:The WW2 memorial being vandalized was the last straw for me. It felt like a personal attack since I was a war veteran. I’m tempted to go out and protect some businesses in my area

That’s just sick… I have no words. My grandfather told me the stories of the American troops who were in Iceland after the British transferred control of the island to the US, following the invasion of Denmark
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:34 am

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Thermodolia wrote:Actually using the military would be change for the better since the military is actually more restrained than the police.


I have my doubts there. Military rules of engagement generally have the military not involved but once those rules of engagement are triggered they tend to go to full force.

Ya but for the most part they’ll just sit there and look mean
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:35 am

Valrifell wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:The WW2 memorial being vandalized was the last straw for me. It felt like a personal attack since I was a war veteran. I’m tempted to go out and protect some businesses in my area


Why is that the last straw? I mean on one hand you have people's businesses and jobs being scorched and torched, and innocents being beaten in the streets. On the other you have decades of systemic oppression and brutality on full display before our very eyes, but now that they've spray painted a piece of marble that's almost trivially easy to clean, now you're upset?

It felt like a bit of a personal attack for me
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Postby Nakena » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:35 am

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:

The Washington Monument fire was fake, it’s the capital bombing scene from the Netflix show Designated Survivor


Lol. You didn even looked up what i posted, didn you? Theres no sfx explosions or so.

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:35 am

Valrifell wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:The WW2 memorial being vandalized was the last straw for me. It felt like a personal attack since I was a war veteran. I’m tempted to go out and protect some businesses in my area


Why is that the last straw? I mean on one hand you have people's businesses and jobs being scorched and torched, and innocents being beaten in the streets. On the other you have decades of systemic oppression and brutality on full display before our very eyes, but now that they've spray painted a piece of marble that's almost trivially easy to clean, now you're upset?

Seriously dude? You do realize that how fucking insensitive that sounds to a lot of us vets, especially the combat vets?
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Postby Slavakino » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:37 am

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Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:The WW2 memorial being vandalized was the last straw for me. It felt like a personal attack since I was a war veteran. I’m tempted to go out and protect some businesses in my area

That’s just sick… I have no words. My grandfather told me the stories of the American troops who were in Iceland after the British transferred control of the island to the US, following the invasion of Denmark

My great-grandpa fought for the freedom of his nation against the nazis, but people like this are sick as they are disrespecting troops who fought for the freedom of their nation or other nations to stop an expansionist threat
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