Region of Dwipantara wrote:Isn't all these chaos are basically Russia's and China's wet dream?
It is indeed.
It's ironic how the people who seem most eager to burn the USA down are Americans themselves.
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by Imperium Romanum Sanctis » Sun May 31, 2020 10:38 am
Region of Dwipantara wrote:Isn't all these chaos are basically Russia's and China's wet dream?
by Aureumterra » Sun May 31, 2020 10:41 am
by The Grims » Sun May 31, 2020 10:42 am
Rojava Free State wrote:The Grims wrote:
Where the random innocent people who were targeted unaware of the plight of their black countrymen ? And if not, why did they not remedy it ? They had years. Decades.
Is one truly innocent when one stands by and does not stop evil ?
Then again quite a few victims were black themselves so in practice this line of reasoning may well lead nowhere.
These small business owners stand with the people. Dont burn their shit.
by Rojava Free State » Sun May 31, 2020 10:47 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by The Reformed American Republic » Sun May 31, 2020 10:48 am
by Mzeusia » Sun May 31, 2020 10:48 am
by Aureumterra » Sun May 31, 2020 10:49 am
Mzeusia wrote:I agree with some people that being violent against innocent parties like small business is wrong, but what do people think about the violence towards police? (I'm not sure) Some have said it's justified. I understand why it has happened, but is it morally right, given that the difference between an innocent policeman and an innocent small business owner might just be the clothes they go to work in?
I know not all policemen are innocent by the way. I just want to hear some opinions on this.
by Mzeusia » Sun May 31, 2020 10:50 am
Aureumterra wrote:Mzeusia wrote:I agree with some people that being violent against innocent parties like small business is wrong, but what do people think about the violence towards police? (I'm not sure) Some have said it's justified. I understand why it has happened, but is it morally right, given that the difference between an innocent policeman and an innocent small business owner might just be the clothes they go to work in?
I know not all policemen are innocent by the way. I just want to hear some opinions on this.
Many police officers joined in on the peaceful protests
by Stellar Colonies » Sun May 31, 2020 10:57 am
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Theodorable wrote:Jihad will win.
Distruzio wrote:All marriage outside the Church is gay marriage.
Khardsland wrote:Terrorism in its original definition is a good thing.
I try to be objective, but I do have some biases.
North Californian.
Stellar Colonies is a loose galactic confederacy.
The Confederacy & the WA.
Add 1200 years.
by Aclion » Sun May 31, 2020 11:12 am
Mzeusia wrote:I agree with some people that being violent against innocent parties like small business is wrong, but what do people think about the violence towards police? (I'm not sure) Some have said it's justified. I understand why it has happened, but is it morally right, given that the difference between an innocent policeman and an innocent small business owner might just be the clothes they go to work in?
I know not all policemen are innocent by the way. I just want to hear some opinions on this.
by Greed and Death » Sun May 31, 2020 11:19 am
Stellar Colonies wrote:Innocents should not be targeted. They have practically nothing to do with this, and don't deserve to be beaten up or have their homes and/or businesses destroyed for no reason.
If violence is going to be used (which I wouldn't prefer), at least focus on the guilty party.
by Kathol Rift » Sun May 31, 2020 11:26 am
Mzeusia wrote:I agree with some people that being violent against innocent parties like small business is wrong, but what do people think about the violence towards police? (I'm not sure) Some have said it's justified. I understand why it has happened, but is it morally right, given that the difference between an innocent policeman and an innocent small business owner might just be the clothes they go to work in?
I know not all policemen are innocent by the way. I just want to hear some opinions on this.
by Luziyca » Sun May 31, 2020 11:29 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Violence against small businesses is never justified. Don't burn the indian restaurant.
Violence against major corporate businesses like Target should be avoided, but I don't really feel sympathy for multinational corporation, Chinese sweatshop utilizing Target. I feel for their hourly employees but their corporate leadership are frankly scumfucks.
Violence against crooked police is justified, because if they can't keep from getting violent toward the populace, there is no reason not to brutalize them. Last night an NYPD officer ran protesters over in his car and the night before they bodyslammed a woman outside Barclay center. They deserve all the suffering they're getting. Zero sympathy from me.
Violence against McDonalds is even more justified because their food sucks ass, their managers are cocksuckers and they're represented by a creepy ass clown.
by Aclion » Sun May 31, 2020 11:32 am
Kathol Rift wrote:Mzeusia wrote:I agree with some people that being violent against innocent parties like small business is wrong, but what do people think about the violence towards police? (I'm not sure) Some have said it's justified. I understand why it has happened, but is it morally right, given that the difference between an innocent policeman and an innocent small business owner might just be the clothes they go to work in?
I know not all policemen are innocent by the way. I just want to hear some opinions on this.
Let me just say that my dad has been a policeman for my entire life. As such, I’ve met hundreds of policemen that my dad works with throughout my life. I have met one, total, that I would classify as someone who deserved to be hurt in protests like this, and he got fired and criminally charged for doing something similar to what caused all this going on right now. The other hundreds of policemen I have met do not deserve to get hurt in all of this, because they spend so many years of their lives to try to keep us safe and stop criminals. To everyone who is saying that it’s okay for police to get hurt in these riots, have you ever met any police? Because I have. And now, my dad, and hundreds of other innocent, awesome, nice people I have met, are now in danger because rioters are throwing rocks through the windows of their office, destroying their cars, and trying to set their department on fire. In what world has this ever been okay?
by Kathol Rift » Sun May 31, 2020 11:36 am
Aclion wrote:Kathol Rift wrote:Let me just say that my dad has been a policeman for my entire life. As such, I’ve met hundreds of policemen that my dad works with throughout my life. I have met one, total, that I would classify as someone who deserved to be hurt in protests like this, and he got fired and criminally charged for doing something similar to what caused all this going on right now. The other hundreds of policemen I have met do not deserve to get hurt in all of this, because they spend so many years of their lives to try to keep us safe and stop criminals. To everyone who is saying that it’s okay for police to get hurt in these riots, have you ever met any police? Because I have. And now, my dad, and hundreds of other innocent, awesome, nice people I have met, are now in danger because rioters are throwing rocks through the windows of their office, destroying their cars, and trying to set their department on fire. In what world has this ever been okay?
Got to remember that not all police departments are the same. Like with bad teachers we don't get rid of bad cops, but send them to places where their behavior is tolerated. So your experience with police is not going to be the as that of someone who lives in these places.
by Soled » Sun May 31, 2020 11:53 am
Heloin wrote:Soled wrote:South Africa had full democracy for its white citizens, but it's hard to argue that it was "ruled by the people" when 80% of the population lived in constant fear and repression.
It was a bad democracy but it was still a democracy. It democratically voted itself out of existence.
by Heloin » Sun May 31, 2020 12:00 pm
Even authoritarian regimes have some degree of democracy in the sense that decisions are typically never made by a single individual (unless people fear you immensely, like with Stalin and Hitler), but by a larger group, like a military junta. So those are democracies too, then. But I think what you're suggesting is that no matter how small the voting populace is, they'll always vote to grant the same rights to others. That's just not true.
by Soled » Sun May 31, 2020 12:01 pm
Heloin wrote:Soled wrote:By your definition we could keep pushing the bar lower and lower. Aristocratic 18th-century Europe where only the landed nobility could vote were democracies, then.
Yes. Most early democracies worked exactly like that.Even authoritarian regimes have some degree of democracy in the sense that decisions are typically never made by a single individual (unless people fear you immensely, like with Stalin and Hitler), but by a larger group, like a military junta. So those are democracies too, then. But I think what you're suggesting is that no matter how small the voting populace is, they'll always vote to grant the same rights to others. That's just not true.
No. You can think bad democracies that hug the line between democratic and oligarchic are not democracies but you'd be wrong.
by The Federal Government of Iowa » Sun May 31, 2020 12:22 pm
by Greed and Death » Sun May 31, 2020 12:23 pm
Heloin wrote:Soled wrote:South Africa had full democracy for its white citizens, but it's hard to argue that it was "ruled by the people" when 80% of the population lived in constant fear and repression.
It was a bad democracy but it was still a democracy. It democratically voted itself out of existence.
by Greed and Death » Sun May 31, 2020 12:28 pm
by Heloin » Sun May 31, 2020 1:07 pm
Greed and Death wrote:Best Title for these protest goes to the Libertarians.
https://reason.com/2020/05/31/nations-c ... cUyJh8GRBw
by Pilipinas and Malaya » Sun May 31, 2020 1:13 pm
The Reformed American Republic wrote:The Grims wrote:
The USA is a democracy. They are.
You don't seem to be aware of the political situation here. Our elections are corrupted by big money, elections between the lesser of the two evils, and we have politicians disconnected from the populace. We are now a klepocratic oligarchy.
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