Coronavirus Thread IV: Legends, Laments and Lockdowns

[Kannap]

How about we go swimming during a thunderstorm? How about we go hiking in a forest fire? Yeah, you need to live life and not be scared of everything - I can still die in a swimming pool or while hiking in the best conditions, but that doesn't mean going out in the worst conditions is a sensible thing to do.

Nor did I say you should

A tourist trap like the Vegas strip reopening right now would be the worst conditions in my example, in case you missed that part.

[San Lumen]

Such an easy statement to make when the city is on the verge of bankruptcy. It is their economy.

Then maybe they'll learn from this and adapt their economy to be more resilient in the future.

How do you propose they do that?

Nor did I say you should

A tourist trap like the Vegas strip reopening right now would be the worst conditions in my example, in case you missed that part.

Yeah better it goes bankrupt and tens of thousands are out of work

[Rojava Free State]

Nor did I say you should

A tourist trap like the Vegas strip reopening right now would be the worst conditions in my example, in case you missed that part.

Las Vegas reopening is literally nightmarish. People will die in droves.

[Estanglia]

They can and probably should reopen if things look good locally, just not the strip itself. That should hold off until we're sure cases are declining nationally. It could all come at once if we presume people are smart regarding travel, but we can't really presume that.

I understand that the strip is essentially Las Vegas to an extent but lack of diverse industry was silly.

Such an easy statement to make when the city is on the verge of bankruptcy. It is their economy.

Fund them.

[San Lumen]

Such an easy statement to make when the city is on the verge of bankruptcy. It is their economy.

Fund them.

With what money? And how much are you going to give them?

[Kannap]

Then maybe they'll learn from this and adapt their economy to be more resilient in the future.

How do you propose they do that?

I'm not an economist nor am I a leader, sorry to say I have no idea but rest assured its been done countless times in history before and it can be done again.

A tourist trap like the Vegas strip reopening right now would be the worst conditions in my example, in case you missed that part.

Yeah better it goes bankrupt and tens of thousands are out of work

I'm not going to say sorry for thinking tens of thousands out of work and drawing unemployment checks is a better outcome than tens of thousands of people dying.

[San Lumen]

How do you propose they do that?

I'm not an economist nor am I a leader, sorry to say I have no idea but rest assured its been done countless times in history before and it can be done again.

Yeah better it goes bankrupt and tens of thousands are out of work

I'm not going to say sorry for thinking tens of thousands out of work and drawing unemployment checks is a better outcome than tens of thousands of people dying.

And now the city is bankrupt and has no money to pay for anything and has to start making difficult choices like cutting essential services because it can’t afford it

[Estanglia]

Fund them.

With what money?

The US government's money.

And how much are you going to give them?

As much as they need to stay afloat whilst closed.

[San Lumen]

With what money?

The US government's money.

And how much are you going to give them?

As much as they need to stay afloat whilst closed.

Gee if it’s so simple why don’t they do that? Maybe because the government isn’t made of money. Why not just bail out every city in America by giving them billions of dollars? That will be zero effect on inflation cuz money printer

[Estanglia]

The US government's money.



As much as they need to stay afloat whilst closed.

Gee if it’s so simple why don’t they do that?

Because the US government is led by Donald Trump, whose actions during this pandemic makes me conclude that he genuinely doesn't care about people's lives. That's also excluding other key lawmakers, whose actions make me conclude they also don't care about people's lives.

Also, you seem to be making the argument that because it hasn't yet been done it's impossible to do. That argument is extremely flawed.

Maybe because the government isn’t made of money. Why not just bail out every city in America by giving them billions of dollars? That will be zero effect on inflation cuz money printer

Noticeably, I didn't advocate bailing out every city. I advocated bailing out the businesses that literally can't keep themselves afloat. If a business can keep itself afloat (see basically every big business), no money for them.

[San Lumen]

Gee if it’s so simple why don’t they do that?

Because the US government is led by Donald Trump, whose actions during this pandemic makes me conclude that he genuinely doesn't care about people's lives. That's also excluding other key lawmakers, whose actions make me conclude they also don't care about people's lives.

Also, you seem to be making the argument that because it hasn't yet been done it's impossible to do. That argument is extremely flawed.

Maybe because the government isn’t made of money. Why not just bail out every city in America by giving them billions of dollars? That will be zero effect on inflation cuz money printer

Noticeably, I didn't advocate bailing out every city. I advocated bailing out the businesses that literally can't keep themselves afloat. If a business can keep itself afloat (see basically every big business), no money for them.

Why aren’t democrats calling for Vegas and other major cities to be bailed out with billions of dollars? Do they not care either?

If it’s such a simple solution why is no one calling for it?

[Fartsniffage]

The US government's money.



As much as they need to stay afloat whilst closed.

Gee if it’s so simple why don’t they do that? Maybe because the government isn’t made of money. Why not just bail out every city in America by giving them billions of dollars? That will be zero effect on inflation cuz money printer

Here is how you do it. You print the extra cash and give it out during the emergency, this keeps the economy alive and there is zero chance of inflation while the country is in lockdown.

Once the crisis is over the Fed then removes the excess cash from the economy by simply not replacing the bills that get sent back for destruction.

[Kannap]

I'm not an economist nor am I a leader, sorry to say I have no idea but rest assured its been done countless times in history before and it can be done again.



I'm not going to say sorry for thinking tens of thousands out of work and drawing unemployment checks is a better outcome than tens of thousands of people dying.

And now the city is bankrupt and has no money to pay for anything and has to start making difficult choices like cutting essential services because it can’t afford it

Suddenly sounds like they're situated in a third world country. Seems like bigger picture problems that need to be fixed.

[Fartsniffage]

Because the US government is led by Donald Trump, whose actions during this pandemic makes me conclude that he genuinely doesn't care about people's lives. That's also excluding other key lawmakers, whose actions make me conclude they also don't care about people's lives.

Also, you seem to be making the argument that because it hasn't yet been done it's impossible to do. That argument is extremely flawed.



Noticeably, I didn't advocate bailing out every city. I advocated bailing out the businesses that literally can't keep themselves afloat. If a business can keep itself afloat (see basically every big business), no money for them.

Why aren’t democrats calling for Vegas and other major cities to be bailed out with billions of dollars? Do they not care either?

If it’s such a simple solution why is no one calling for it?

https://time.com/5837827/house-democrat ... lief-bill/

[Estanglia]

Because the US government is led by Donald Trump, whose actions during this pandemic makes me conclude that he genuinely doesn't care about people's lives. That's also excluding other key lawmakers, whose actions make me conclude they also don't care about people's lives.

Also, you seem to be making the argument that because it hasn't yet been done it's impossible to do. That argument is extremely flawed.



Noticeably, I didn't advocate bailing out every city. I advocated bailing out the businesses that literally can't keep themselves afloat. If a business can keep itself afloat (see basically every big business), no money for them.

Why aren’t democrats calling for Vegas and other major cities to be bailed out with billions of dollars? Do they not care either?

Potentially.

If it’s such a simple solution why is no one calling for it?

Ask the American lawmakers who aren't advocating that solution.

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Because the US government is led by Donald Trump, whose actions during this pandemic makes me conclude that he genuinely doesn't care about people's lives. That's also excluding other key lawmakers, whose actions make me conclude they also don't care about people's lives.

Also, you seem to be making the argument that because it hasn't yet been done it's impossible to do. That argument is extremely flawed.



Noticeably, I didn't advocate bailing out every city. I advocated bailing out the businesses that literally can't keep themselves afloat. If a business can keep itself afloat (see basically every big business), no money for them.

Why aren’t democrats calling for Vegas and other major cities to be bailed out with billions of dollars? Do they not care either?

If it’s such a simple solution why is no one calling for it?

I think you are on the brink of a mind-blowing revelation, my friend: The Democrats don't care either.

[Kannap]

The US government's money.



As much as they need to stay afloat whilst closed.

Gee if it’s so simple why don’t they do that? Maybe because the government isn’t made of money. Why not just bail out every city in America by giving them billions of dollars? That will be zero effect on inflation cuz money printer

Government doesn't have a problem throwing massive amounts of money they pulled out of their ass towards wall street, corporations, and the military. Government only has a problem finding money when it will actually solve problems that pain the working class.

I mean, the Pentagon just managed to lose $21 trillion dollars per an audit that couldn't determine where that money went a couple years ago, we're throwing away and hemorrhaging money on things that don't particular make sense when the nation is crumbling - both in regards to society and infrastructure.

[New Visayan Islands]

How do you propose they do that?

I'm not an economist nor am I a leader, sorry to say I have no idea but rest assured its been done countless times in history before and it can be done again.

Yeah better it goes bankrupt and tens of thousands are out of work

I'm not going to say sorry for thinking tens of thousands out of work and drawing unemployment checks is a better outcome than tens of thousands of people dying.

Agree here; again, things can be replaced, people cannot.

[Kannap]

I'm not an economist nor am I a leader, sorry to say I have no idea but rest assured its been done countless times in history before and it can be done again.



I'm not going to say sorry for thinking tens of thousands out of work and drawing unemployment checks is a better outcome than tens of thousands of people dying.

Agree here; again, things can be replaced, people cannot.

That's what they tell you when your house is on fire. Get the family out, save the pets if you can get to them. Books, televisions, furniture, car keys, all of those can be replaced.

[ArenaC]

https://apnews.com/5ebc0ad45b73a899efa81f098330204c

Cuomo should be jailed and charged with murder for his actions.

Yes. Personally I am willing to put that state under neighboring Pennsylvanian control for this.

[Rojava Free State]

The solution to out of work people not being able to pay for food isn't to reopen every business and kill the old. The solution is we need a better social safety net.

[Ifreann]

With a new form of gambling.

Why is this happening? Why?

Why are they already allowing mass gatherings? Why are casinos reopening? And why did Indiana allow gatherings of 100? America what are you doing? I can't take this country seriously. We just suffered mass death and the response is "...okay time to go back to normal."

Money. Great big piles of money. More money than our human minds can even comprehend.

[Rojava Free State]

Where my state is at right now is where others need to stay for a while. Like you can see your close friends and family but we aren't just gonna say "fuck safety" and end all restrictions.

[The Black Forrest]

Gee if it’s so simple why don’t they do that? Maybe because the government isn’t made of money. Why not just bail out every city in America by giving them billions of dollars? That will be zero effect on inflation cuz money printer

Government doesn't have a problem throwing massive amounts of money they pulled out of their ass towards wall street, corporations, and the military. Government only has a problem finding money when it will actually solve problems that pain the working class.

I mean, the Pentagon just managed to lose $21 trillion dollars per an audit that couldn't determine where that money went a couple years ago, we're throwing away and hemorrhaging money on things that don't particular make sense when the nation is crumbling - both in regards to society and infrastructure.

Hey now. Bribing politicians cost money!

[Kyapo]

So Vegas is back open again?