by Stanmenistan » Sat May 23, 2020 3:36 am
by Vassenor » Sat May 23, 2020 3:37 am
Stanmenistan wrote:I've read a lot of articles by pro-Black Lives Matter groups about why they don't like the phrase All Lives Matter, but I've never seen anyone defend the All Lives Matter phrase instead. I am curious to see what supporters have to say on the matter. On the one hand, I understand that racial profiling and police brutality may be an issue but on the other, I see that law enforcement is necessary for any non-Utopian society and most police officers risk life and limb to save lives, not end them.
Any supporters of All Lives Matter are welcome here.
by Adersfield » Sat May 23, 2020 3:38 am
Vassenor wrote:Stanmenistan wrote:I've read a lot of articles by pro-Black Lives Matter groups about why they don't like the phrase All Lives Matter, but I've never seen anyone defend the All Lives Matter phrase instead. I am curious to see what supporters have to say on the matter. On the one hand, I understand that racial profiling and police brutality may be an issue but on the other, I see that law enforcement is necessary for any non-Utopian society and most police officers risk life and limb to save lives, not end them.
Any supporters of All Lives Matter are welcome here.
So maybe you can explain how "Black Lives Matter" somehow implies that other lives don't.
by Vassenor » Sat May 23, 2020 3:39 am
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat May 23, 2020 3:42 am
by Munkcestrian RepubIic » Sat May 23, 2020 3:42 am
Stanmenistan wrote:I've read a lot of articles by pro-Black Lives Matter groups about why they don't like the phrase All Lives Matter, but I've never seen anyone defend the All Lives Matter phrase instead. I am curious to see what supporters have to say on the matter. On the one hand, I understand that racial profiling and police brutality may be an issue but on the other, I see that law enforcement is necessary for any non-Utopian society and most police officers risk life and limb to save lives, not end them.
Any supporters of All Lives Matter are welcome here.
by Stagnant Axon Terminal » Sat May 23, 2020 3:54 am
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by Cekoviu » Sat May 23, 2020 4:07 am
by The Alma Mater » Sat May 23, 2020 4:11 am
by The Alma Mater » Sat May 23, 2020 4:15 am
Cekoviu wrote:I'm going to steal an example which I have definitely misremembered.
So okay, say you're at a Thanksgiving dinner with your family, and someone's doling out the turkey. Everybody, you included, passes their plate to the end of the table to get a serving, and everybody but you gets back a heaping serving, while you're given nothing. You complain, "don't I deserve some? I did just as much work to help with the dinner as everyone else!" To which the server responds, "why does everything have to be about you? Everyone deserves a serving!" How do you think you would feel in this situation?
by Rojava Free State » Sat May 23, 2020 4:25 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Rojava Free State » Sat May 23, 2020 4:28 am
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:Adersfield wrote:so can you explain why them hating us saying "all lives matter" is making them think that doesn't include them?
probably because it entirely ignores the topic at hand and implies that black lives matter doesn't value all lives.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by The Alma Mater » Sat May 23, 2020 4:31 am
by Rojava Free State » Sat May 23, 2020 4:35 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Stagnant Axon Terminal » Sat May 23, 2020 4:39 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:probably because it entirely ignores the topic at hand and implies that black lives matter doesn't value all lives.
Funny, cause I still remember BLM's response when Vester Flannigan killed a news reporter. Talking about "its unfortunate but black people are victims of violence everyday." Like seriously show some damn respect. Now is not the time for your "I'm black and I'm a victim" talk, trying to outdo a dead reporter and cameraman in some sick Olympics of suffering.
Also remember how BLM had some racially segregated meetings. But they totally aren't a bunch of bigots despite having meetings where they asked white people not to come.
Nanatsu No Tsuki wrote:the fetus will never eat cake if you abort it
Cu Math wrote:Axon is like a bear with a PH.D. She debates at first, then eats your face.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:THE MAN'S PENIS HAS LEFT THE VAGINA. IT'S THE UTERUS'S TURN TO SHINE.
by Marxist Germany » Sat May 23, 2020 4:58 am
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:
Funny, cause I still remember BLM's response when Vester Flannigan killed a news reporter. Talking about "its unfortunate but black people are victims of violence everyday." Like seriously show some damn respect. Now is not the time for your "I'm black and I'm a victim" talk, trying to outdo a dead reporter and cameraman in some sick Olympics of suffering.
Also remember how BLM had some racially segregated meetings. But they totally aren't a bunch of bigots despite having meetings where they asked white people not to come.
first of all, minorities, especially in situations where they are being threatened and targetted, deserve to have safe meeting spaces. If that means my white ass can't go to a meeting, GOOD. They deserve to not have to look at every white person and think, "are they here to be an ally or are they here to derail the conversation or heckle or even attack us?"
Second, Vester Flanagan has nothing to do with this. Period. The people who ASSOCIATED Flanagan with BLM and tried to pit all of it on BLM and accuse them of trying to start a race war is what prompted ANY response from BLM. They are WHOLLY separate.
by Stagnant Axon Terminal » Sat May 23, 2020 5:11 am
Marxist Germany wrote:Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:first of all, minorities, especially in situations where they are being threatened and targetted, deserve to have safe meeting spaces. If that means my white ass can't go to a meeting, GOOD. They deserve to not have to look at every white person and think, "are they here to be an ally or are they here to derail the conversation or heckle or even attack us?"
Second, Vester Flanagan has nothing to do with this. Period. The people who ASSOCIATED Flanagan with BLM and tried to pit all of it on BLM and accuse them of trying to start a race war is what prompted ANY response from BLM. They are WHOLLY separate.
Racism is good when it's minorities?
Nanatsu No Tsuki wrote:the fetus will never eat cake if you abort it
Cu Math wrote:Axon is like a bear with a PH.D. She debates at first, then eats your face.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:THE MAN'S PENIS HAS LEFT THE VAGINA. IT'S THE UTERUS'S TURN TO SHINE.
by Albrenia » Sat May 23, 2020 5:31 am
by Ifreann » Sat May 23, 2020 5:37 am
by Albrenia » Sat May 23, 2020 5:38 am
Ifreann wrote:No one defends "All Lives Matter" because everyone knows there's nothing to defend about it, it's just a rejection of "Black Lives Matter" and its opposition to police brutality. It's an anti-message, an exclusionary phrase, "I'm not with them." But who are you with? "Not them."
by Dumb Ideologies » Sat May 23, 2020 5:42 am
by Rojava Free State » Sat May 23, 2020 5:45 am
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:
Funny, cause I still remember BLM's response when Vester Flannigan killed a news reporter. Talking about "its unfortunate but black people are victims of violence everyday." Like seriously show some damn respect. Now is not the time for your "I'm black and I'm a victim" talk, trying to outdo a dead reporter and cameraman in some sick Olympics of suffering.
Also remember how BLM had some racially segregated meetings. But they totally aren't a bunch of bigots despite having meetings where they asked white people not to come.
first of all, minorities, especially in situations where they are being threatened and targetted, deserve to have safe meeting spaces. If that means my white ass can't go to a meeting, GOOD. They deserve to not have to look at every white person and think, "are they here to be an ally or are they here to derail the conversation or heckle or even attack us?"
Second, Vester Flanagan has nothing to do with this. Period. The people who ASSOCIATED Flanagan with BLM and tried to pit all of it on BLM and accuse them of trying to start a race war is what prompted ANY response from BLM. They are WHOLLY separate.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Agarntrop » Sat May 23, 2020 5:48 am
by Rojava Free State » Sat May 23, 2020 5:48 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
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